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On December 10 2012 11:26 wei2coolman wrote:
St.Vicious is so bad in this patch >.>, but tbh he's been slumping even before this patch, very unimpressive play by him overall. This new patch though should be good for St.V, since there should be more gold available for jungler overall.
thats so bullshit, earlier u could atleast get fed by ganking now when ur gank fails u r miles behind everyone else the gold improvement on jungle monsters is minimal
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That's why it's great for St.V, he's not a ganking jungler. he's a farming jungler. Also, his lategame will be much more impactful in teamfights, due to increase gold, due to passive gold increase. Also, interesting note, it seems that junglers are getting more lane creeps than before, because sustain got nerfed real hard (like vamp sceptre), flask is great for sustain, but not for long period sustain, thus often leading to the usage flask more for short time sustain, between skirmishes;, and force people to base, and junglers are seeing more lane holding than before (ergo more cs).
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United States23745 Posts
On December 10 2012 11:26 wei2coolman wrote:
St.Vicious is so bad in this patch >.>, but tbh he's been slumping even before this patch, very unimpressive play by him overall. This new patch though should be good for St.V, since there should be more gold available for jungler overall.
When they were playing without him yesterday with Rhux top and Voyboy in the jungle they actually didn't look too bad. It's still early, some pros are going to take longer to adapt, that was the whole point of making these changes in-between seasons.
On December 10 2012 11:05 TheYango wrote:
I would much rather see a team that plays Rhux as a top laner than as a support.
Yeah, seeing him play top for Dig and Curse shows he's pretty good at the role, I mean there's a reason he mained top before playing support for Curse. I still kinda wish they would replace Elementz, idk get L0cust or something.
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i thought the jungle was supposed to be harder?
with the MS boost and machete, i'm rocketing through it with riven. riven jungle so good now.
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Ugh, Aphromoo's listening to Marylin Monson's "This is Halloween". That version's so bad, my hears are weeping. x_t
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What happened?
Did TSM try to do a proxy pick but did not follow procedure?
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Czech Republic11293 Posts
On December 10 2012 11:47 wei2coolman wrote:
Also, observation from a lot of recent pro matches, it seems jungler farm is starting to be more equivalent to top lane farm now, so it seems late game, junglers will have harder impact in lategame fight. Perhaps we'll see some more carry heavy junglers, over utility junglers soon.
You'll have to take my support junglers from my cold, dead hands. I don't want to play any lame carry who does damage and is overall lame. Sigh. We need a more diverse support/pure tank jungler championpool though, they need to buff Sejuani, Nautilus and Rammus a tiny bit more. Or I will be sad. 
Also I want jungle Alistar back. You could do the sickest plays with him.
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How the hell did nyjacky die to a lvl 2 Ahri as Ryze. I don't understand.
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Hahaha, I was wondering when this was gunna happen. everyone talking about how op'd 6-item ryze, and then forget how fucking terrible his laning phase is. lololololol.
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On December 10 2012 12:17 wei2coolman wrote:
Hahaha, I was wondering when this was gunna happen. everyone talking about how op'd 6-item ryze, and then forget how fucking terrible his laning phase is. lololololol.
Well nyjacky just died twice 1v1. Mind boggling.
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On December 10 2012 12:18 Sufficiency wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2012 12:17 wei2coolman wrote:
Hahaha, I was wondering when this was gunna happen. everyone talking about how op'd 6-item ryze, and then forget how fucking terrible his laning phase is. lololololol. Well nyjacky just died twice 1v1. Mind boggling.
Nyjacky usually doesn't fuck up like this. Then again, he's not use to playing against Regi-like mids. Regi aggressive style can throw players off their game.
lol, Nyjacky still wins 1v1 later on, despite being down 2 kills >.>
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United States23745 Posts
Curse just getting caught out too many times, Voyboy going too deep on Dyrus.
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After that Taric "escape"... why haven't Elementz gotten benched yet?
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On December 10 2012 12:39 Sufficiency wrote:
After that Taric "escape"... why haven't Elementz gotten benched yet?
Liquid probably punching himself in the face, for deciding to put elementz back on starting lineup. lol.
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On December 10 2012 12:39 Sufficiency wrote:
After that Taric "escape"... why haven't Elementz gotten benched yet?
He has, then he got unbenched because the one guy they tried out wasn't even a support player. Elementz forever bad.
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On December 10 2012 12:41 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2012 12:39 Sufficiency wrote:
After that Taric "escape"... why haven't Elementz gotten benched yet? Liquid probably punching himself in the face, for deciding to put elementz back on starting lineup. lol.
I can't even think of a single reason why staying at that place was a good play.
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On December 10 2012 10:11 Sufficiency wrote:
Fizz is FOTM?
Oh god I hope not. Afaik, Fizz has never died during a laning phase. True story.
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On December 10 2012 12:41 TwoToneTerran wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2012 12:39 Sufficiency wrote:
After that Taric "escape"... why haven't Elementz gotten benched yet? He has, then he got unbenched because the one guy they tried out wasn't even a support player. Elementz forever bad.
rhux or something? I thought he was everyone's sweetheart
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On December 10 2012 12:09 Scip wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2012 11:47 wei2coolman wrote:
Also, observation from a lot of recent pro matches, it seems jungler farm is starting to be more equivalent to top lane farm now, so it seems late game, junglers will have harder impact in lategame fight. Perhaps we'll see some more carry heavy junglers, over utility junglers soon. You'll have to take my support junglers from my cold, dead hands. I don't want to play any lame carry who does damage and is overall lame. Sigh. We need a more diverse support/pure tank jungler championpool though, they need to buff Sejuani, Nautilus and Rammus a tiny bit more. Or I will be sad. Also I want jungle Alistar back. You could do the sickest plays with him.
I love those junglers as much as anyone but when they were good (rammus and alistar) they were permabanned which meant you could never play them anyway :< people are so scared of gank junglers that force them to change their playstyle
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On December 10 2012 12:41 TwoToneTerran wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2012 12:39 Sufficiency wrote:
After that Taric "escape"... why haven't Elementz gotten benched yet? He has, then he got unbenched because the one guy they tried out wasn't even a support player. Elementz forever bad.
There is no bot lane I have seen lose more that CRS NA's. Cop is a mediocre at best AD(plenty of solo queue AD's with more skill) and Elementz doesn't even look like a pro player.
Their A-game is going even with other teams bot lanes.
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