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Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17296 Posts
December 09 2012 02:22 GMT
#2521
Up there with unmitigatable CC, stealth, and assassins.
twitch.tv/cratonz
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
December 09 2012 02:22 GMT
#2522
On December 09 2012 08:25 gtrsrs wrote:

just stop posting go back to shameville, you've been posting nonsense for only a couple days and i'm already tired of reading your tedious posts

QQ thread that way.
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-09 02:26:04
December 09 2012 02:25 GMT
#2523
On December 09 2012 11:22 Craton wrote:
Up there with unmitigatable CC, stealth, and assassins.

Also easy escape from ganks, and undying rage, really high levels of sustain.
R button champs. AoE champs.
If we removed all the annoying things in the game we'd have nothing left.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Inschato
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada1349 Posts
December 09 2012 02:28 GMT
#2524
The other reason Teemo is super annoying right now is that you can't gear against auto attack magic damage. There's no magic version of thornmail and the other magic resist items got mostly nerfed. So not only is he doing tons of random ward damage all over the map, but if you actually try to fight him he'll just blow you to pieces if you're not playing an assassin or burster who can 1-combo him. I knew it was going to be a pain in the ass when they buffed the ratio on his on-hit a while back, and now spellsword and the malady change have made it that much worse.
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Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
December 09 2012 02:29 GMT
#2525
On December 09 2012 11:22 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2012 08:25 gtrsrs wrote:

just stop posting go back to shameville, you've been posting nonsense for only a couple days and i'm already tired of reading your tedious posts

QQ thread that way.


Heh, that was actually pretty funny. I believe in second chances so I am okay with your return.

Vi is a very odd champion to play but she's very much entertaining to play once you get rolling. Still not sure what I want to build on her, been running Trinity Force and brutalizer. I am tempted to get Wit's end for funsies.
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
December 09 2012 02:30 GMT
#2526
It's weird because teemos design seems to be to be as non-interactive as possible. how can this character avoid having to deal with enemies. and the problem is in a multiplayer game that makes it incredibly unfun to play against regardless of whether or not teemo wins games.
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-09 02:34:07
December 09 2012 02:33 GMT
#2527
I played Diana to get some elo. It was very effective, until some peole started to insta ban her every games...
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
Inschato
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada1349 Posts
December 09 2012 02:34 GMT
#2528
On December 09 2012 11:33 WhiteDog wrote:
I played Diana to get gelp my elo. It was very effective, until some peole started to insta ban her every games...

Diana is the second most banned champion right now ---> http://www.lolking.net/charts?region=all&league=ranked&type=bans&range=daily

(I have no idea where they pull those stats from, but they look accurate to me >_>)
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Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
December 09 2012 02:34 GMT
#2529
does i spy craton on dyrus stream

Also, yeah, fuck Diana. That bitch is going to be perma banned I hope.
"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
December 09 2012 02:49 GMT
#2530
Rengar gets nerfs, even Teemo gets nerfs.

Diana? nope.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
zodde
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1908 Posts
December 09 2012 02:49 GMT
#2531
On December 09 2012 11:34 Inschato wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2012 11:33 WhiteDog wrote:
I played Diana to get gelp my elo. It was very effective, until some peole started to insta ban her every games...

Diana is the second most banned champion right now ---> http://www.lolking.net/charts?region=all&league=ranked&type=bans&range=daily

(I have no idea where they pull those stats from, but they look accurate to me >_>)


Those stats are interesting. For example, shaco is at 20% banrate on EUW, but I haven't seen him banned more than once or twice in the last month or two, ranging from 1400-1650 elo + loads of normal games. I guess he's perma banned in lower Elo brackets?

Also pretty cool how Diana is banned in 85% of all games on EUW but only around 50% of games on NA. You lucky americans who actually get to pick Diana
Inschato
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada1349 Posts
December 09 2012 02:52 GMT
#2532
On December 09 2012 11:49 NeoIllusions wrote:
Rengar gets nerfs, even Teemo gets nerfs.

Diana? nope.

You can't nerf broken kit. They're getting too good at designing champions now imo, they're all way too good at what they do.
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onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-09 02:55:22
December 09 2012 02:53 GMT
#2533
On December 09 2012 11:29 Parnage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2012 11:22 PrinceXizor wrote:
On December 09 2012 08:25 gtrsrs wrote:

just stop posting go back to shameville, you've been posting nonsense for only a couple days and i'm already tired of reading your tedious posts

QQ thread that way.


Heh, that was actually pretty funny. I believe in second chances so I am okay with your return.

Vi is a very odd champion to play but she's very much entertaining to play once you get rolling. Still not sure what I want to build on her, been running Trinity Force and brutalizer. I am tempted to get Wit's end for funsies.

She scales off AD, better rush BC hue. But in all seriousness, I think you'll have build her like a bruiser, she needs to get up in people's face to do damage. Although building pure AD assassination would make her ult pretty funny. I could see if working in soloq if you catch someone out of position.

On December 09 2012 11:49 NeoIllusions wrote:
Rengar gets nerfs, even Teemo gets nerfs.

Diana? nope.

She's getting a nerf on her Q damage, but it won't help. Scarra mentioned a big problem with her is her mana costs are extremely low. Making them cost more means she couldn't just free farm with Q and would have to possible get into more dangerous position to CS.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
December 09 2012 02:56 GMT
#2534
Diana is gettng nerfed. Her Q's base damage on rank 5 lost 30 damage on PBE.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
December 09 2012 02:56 GMT
#2535
On December 09 2012 11:49 NeoIllusions wrote:
Rengar gets nerfs, even Teemo gets nerfs.

Diana? nope.

She is getting nerfed. It's on the PBE. 30 damage less on her crescent strike at max rank.
http://www.surrenderat20.net/2012/12/126-pbe-update.html
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
December 09 2012 02:58 GMT
#2536
On December 09 2012 11:56 obesechicken13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2012 11:49 NeoIllusions wrote:
Rengar gets nerfs, even Teemo gets nerfs.

Diana? nope.

She is getting nerfed. It's on the PBE. 30 damage less on her crescent strike at max rank.
http://www.surrenderat20.net/2012/12/126-pbe-update.html


Her Q at release was 260 at rank 5 lol. If PBE changes comes through it's going to be 200 after the Vi patch. Ouch.

It's probably fair. Her health and health per level are way too high.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
December 09 2012 02:59 GMT
#2537
On December 09 2012 11:52 Inschato wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2012 11:49 NeoIllusions wrote:
Rengar gets nerfs, even Teemo gets nerfs.

Diana? nope.

You can't nerf broken kit. They're getting too good at designing champions now imo, they're all way too good at what they do.


Its not even her kit necessarily. Thats way too good in its own right, but my problem is how she gets scaling mr and more health than the common mid laner. Obviously it makes sense with what they designed her for (jangling), but mid lane, that is retarded to go against.

I can't imagine her having many bad matchups. She probably goes even or gets beat by the tanky aps, and Orianna seems to be able to at least hold her own vs her.
"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-09 03:01:33
December 09 2012 02:59 GMT
#2538
Because 30 less damage on Dianas burst will make her not kill you, amirite.

Ryze seemed to beat her pretty hard in IPL. She dives in, gets combo'd.

Zyra mid also seemed to do well. Zyra is pretty great at counter-initiation.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-09 03:03:38
December 09 2012 03:03 GMT
#2539
On December 09 2012 11:59 Cloud9157 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2012 11:52 Inschato wrote:
On December 09 2012 11:49 NeoIllusions wrote:
Rengar gets nerfs, even Teemo gets nerfs.

Diana? nope.

You can't nerf broken kit. They're getting too good at designing champions now imo, they're all way too good at what they do.


Its not even her kit necessarily. Thats way too good in its own right, but my problem is how she gets scaling mr and more health than the common mid laner. Obviously it makes sense with what they designed her for (jangling), but mid lane, that is retarded to go against.

I can't imagine her having many bad matchups. She probably goes even or gets beat by the tanky aps, and Orianna seems to be able to at least hold her own vs her.


She does have some counters, but she is just too tanky. Her role is really not that much different from Akali, Kassdin, and Gragas, but Diana gains extra 10~15 health per level... and she has a shield...
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
December 09 2012 03:05 GMT
#2540
Except for the fact that Diana is better at engaging than any of those except Gragas. Dive in>pull everyone towards you>team follows up. Akali doesn't engage, Kassadin could engage, but I'd take a group pull over aoe slow any day. Gragas beats her because everyone goes flying across the map.
"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
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