EPT[Patch 1.0.0.152: Preseason 3] General Discussion - Page 119
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
On December 09 2012 02:00 Alaric wrote: Meh, going from 15 to 10 ArPen sounds pretty weak though. Why not make the ArPen and CDR and passive application unique, nerf the passive a bit (value rather than number of stacks, or assassin-like champs won't like it at all), and keep the ArPen value where it was?  Because people complained about it and some pros stacked it. I think we had a sensible discussion yesterday about how it'd take 150armor to break even from the old BC and that's not factoring in changes to gold cost, your need to go 21 in arpen, and other things. I agree that removing the unique part is a smart idea for consistency. It was just an accident that got through testing that the items stats weren't unique. None of the item effects are unique, making it the first example of non-unique armor penetration and cooldown reduction item. The Black Cleaver debuff counts per target. Multiple The Black Cleaver on the same champion or across multiple champions will only apply stacks of the debuff faster, but the max cap will still be 4 on each target. from wiki Teemo's also lost .1 on his E AP ratios, but gained some on R, and Rengars being hit with the nerf bat. http://www.surrenderat20.net/2012/12/126-pbe-update.html | ||
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Keniji
Netherlands2569 Posts
So we all say fuck it and go all mid. Within 15 minutes we are what 10-15 in kills or something but have 7 towers down and win the game from there. People are so bad at not playing meta LOL. | ||
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petered
United States1817 Posts
On December 09 2012 02:00 Alaric wrote: Meh, going from 15 to 10 ArPen sounds pretty weak though. Why not make the ArPen and CDR and passive application unique, nerf the passive a bit (value rather than number of stacks, or assassin-like champs won't like it at all), and keep the ArPen value where it was? Or they could just keep it exactly the same but make it so autos don't reduce armor, only physical damage abilities. That way it is less abusable by ranged champs but still lets AD assassin types scale well into the lategame. | ||
onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On December 09 2012 02:01 AsnSensation wrote: Didnt even realize a LAN was going on ( Thor Open) because the stream has only 2k viewers lol. Yeah, not a lot of people knew about it. A couple big name EU teams (Fnatic, ALTERNATE) and then a bunch of no name teams. They were supposed to play some more games today but I guess their venue closed early so they have to move them to tomorrow. | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
-> Ragequit How to not get viewers 101 | ||
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Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
and I don't like dat feel | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
I never seen another team do it tho | ||
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
On December 09 2012 03:56 Slayer91 wrote: also they removed heal debuff so ap support mid like karma lulu ori and support bot like janna or something with double heals and 3-4 lockets is op as fuck and they cant do anything to your ad carry or bruisers I never seen another team do it tho That... can't be intentional. | ||
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
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VashTS
United States1675 Posts
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kainzero
United States5211 Posts
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Irave
United States9965 Posts
On December 09 2012 04:13 gtrsrs wrote: heal debuff is removed for which items/skills? and is this only on pbe? Think they're talking about the debuff on summoner heal. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
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101toss
3232 Posts
It lets people stack damage while granting survivability which is stupid. No other pen item in the game grants resists/health, why does the cleaver? I'd be fine with the damage output if it made you a glass cannon, but cleaver grants health for no apparent reason. | ||
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ManyCookies
1164 Posts
I fear the same thing's going to happen with these newly strong items and champions. Like BC is silly mainly because it can be stacked, yet R&D is hitting the armor shred numbers first. And I'll bet 10 bucks Ryze goes through 2-3 patches of silly mana ratio adjustments before they change/fix Manamura/Seraph stacking. Hell, they now have the implementations in place to do this quite easily; have the 1000 mana be a unique passive with the same name as the Tear passive. | ||
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zodde
Sweden1908 Posts
On December 09 2012 04:39 101toss wrote: My beef with black cleaver is that it gives 250 health (or rather it builds out of a ruby crystal). Also the nonunique stats, while with every other damn arpen item most of the stats are unique. It lets people stack damage while granting survivability which is stupid. No other pen item in the game grants resists/health, why does the cleaver? I'd be fine with the damage output if it made you a glass cannon, but cleaver grants health for no apparent reason. Haunting guise gives health  But yeah I see your point. Something isn't right when the winning team has 10 black cleavers across three people... | ||
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
On December 09 2012 04:14 Slayer91 wrote: At least unless I really missed something the heal debuff seems to be gone but I can't confirm it gone from what? the game? i've seen katarina use it and ignite still has it i feel like i'm misunderstanding you heartily | ||
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