Jungle mundo didn't get fon that much anyway. You wanted hp so if you needed MR you went aegis or SV. Warmogs is easier to stack and warmogs/randuins/SV combo is really good. Sure the T3 items got nerfed but they got nerfed harder for everyone else. Mundos doesn't rely on resists as much and sunfire got "buffed" which was one of his better damage items (wits end the other one).
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
Jungle mundo didn't get fon that much anyway. You wanted hp so if you needed MR you went aegis or SV. Warmogs is easier to stack and warmogs/randuins/SV combo is really good. Sure the T3 items got nerfed but they got nerfed harder for everyone else. Mundos doesn't rely on resists as much and sunfire got "buffed" which was one of his better damage items (wits end the other one). | ||
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Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
On December 09 2012 00:30 Slayer91 wrote: mundo is really good in the new jungle because all his items got buffed basically and everyone elses got nerfed Warmogs got nerfed. Spirit Visage got nerfed. Aegis got nerfed too I think, but not as much and it builds into something at least. Idk why people think that Spirit Visage got buffed when clearly the opposite happened. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
aegis fuck aegis we get locket now warmogs got buffed if you didnt have time to stack and especially if you count the nerfs to everything else. Costs 350 less gives the same hp and regen on the initial buy it just loses hp compared to fully stacked warmogs before but it's cheaper. randuins got probably buffed as well for mundo since he gets regen from the hp | ||
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
On December 09 2012 00:19 gtrsrs wrote: well, i'm pretty sure riot's going to pussy out and revert a few changes (less damaging creeps or leash change most likely) because there aren't a ton of options right now it appears that olaf is god, mundo and lee are next best, and everything else is really situational at best. also, didn't xizor get banished from this forum? i see his inane posts like 4 per page, is he really that masochistic mundo is incredible imo, way better than lee (and lee is my fav champ ) | ||
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
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Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
Not to mention you have to spend more money to get the unique passive. Nvm it's a bit more cost efficient, by about 5.5% | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On December 09 2012 00:52 Slayer91 wrote: Spirit visage got buffed aegis fuck aegis we get locket now warmogs got buffed if you didnt have time to stack and especially if you count the nerfs to everything else. Costs 350 less gives the same hp and regen on the initial buy it just loses hp compared to fully stacked warmogs before but it's cheaper. randuins got probably buffed as well for mundo since he gets regen from the hp Dude, the new Aegis upgrade is mandatory. It give minions +30 resist or something. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
1550 gold 200 hp 10% cdr combined 850 gold 30 magic resist (500 gold) 15% healing/regen effect 1350 gold for 1550 gold so 15% healing regen valued at 200 gold to make things simple new spirit visage 2200 gold 200 hp 15% cdr combined about 1k gold 50 magic resist 1k gold (using new magic resist value) 20% healing regen valued at 300 gold so it.s 2.3k gold for 2.2k so the efficiency is up AND it's more efficient for your slot and 5% cdr is realistically worth more than 150 gold since it's so awkward to get with stats you want. Same with magic resist, getting slot efficient magic resist is extremely difficult this patch, spirit visage is a T3 item which got nerfed across the board so getting more than your monies worth out of your item signifies borderline OP items (locket is the other one, and GA if you count the 30% as flat HP) On December 09 2012 01:04 cLutZ wrote: Dude, the new Aegis upgrade is mandatory. It give minions +30 resist or something. be a dear and inform my supports thanks! | ||
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Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
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fishinguy
Russian Federation798 Posts
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
On December 09 2012 01:09 Scip wrote: Teut, it's you who plays supports and builds stuff like Frozen Fist. yeah it's a damn good thing I'm not supporting my jungle we'd never get an aegis together | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On December 09 2012 01:13 fishinguy wrote: What do you guys think of Nocturne in the new jungle? I have played him a couple of times and still seems fairly quick and safe. I suppose he wont be a tier one jungler anymore... He's actually one of the best junglers right now in S3. His clear time isn't dr.mundo amazing, but due to oracle changes, he's become much stronger. Before, w/ oracles you could get like a 7min oracle, clear wards all day, and be able to walk through river, and gank enemies. But, now due to huge oracle change, and lack of cost effeciency to get it, it's much much harder to just walk through river and gank; so Nocturne ult is much stronger than ever before, since enemies can't see his ult coming; so the difference in his ult ganks vs other junglers ganks in S3 is significantly different. | ||
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BlasiuS
United States2405 Posts
I'm seeing this on EVERY AD CHAMP, even AD carry. Just witnessed a game where one team had 6 BCs, other team had 3. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On December 09 2012 01:20 BlasiuS wrote: I'm expecting a BC nerf in the next patch. I'm seeing this on EVERY AD CHAMP, even AD carry. Just witnessed a game where one team had 6 BCs, other team had 3. Riot needs to release the stats correlation with Games won, and # of BC's bought. | ||
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thenexusp
United States3721 Posts
On December 09 2012 01:20 BlasiuS wrote: I'm expecting a BC nerf in the next patch. I'm seeing this on EVERY AD CHAMP, even AD carry. Just witnessed a game where one team had 6 BCs, other team had 3. Riot's way ahead of you lol http://www.surrenderat20.net/2012/12/127-pbe-update.html Black Cleaver Armor Penetration changed to Unique Armor Penetration reduced to 10 from 15 Passive effect now reduces armor by 6.25% per stack down from 7.5% Brutilizer Armor Penetration reduced to 10 from 15. Might be too severe.... | ||
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Promises
Netherlands1821 Posts
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On December 09 2012 01:27 thenexusp wrote: Riot's way ahead of you lol http://www.surrenderat20.net/2012/12/127-pbe-update.html Might be too severe.... Its not. Brut was already a really good, and potentially OP item before. The problem with it was that it had no endgame option, and the flad pen was bad engame. With both those problems "fixed" (also for haunting guise) it needs nerfs. | ||
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
On December 08 2012 22:50 sob3k wrote: New Item: Key to the Jungle Item cost: 300 Unique Passive – Butcher: Damage dealt to monsters increased by 10%. Unique Passive – Rend: Basic attacks deal 10 bonus true damage to monsters. Unique Passive – Key: Opens the large iron cages that now enclose each monster camp. Caged monsters cannot be damaged. Limit one per team. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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