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On November 17 2012 02:39 Zhiroo wrote:
Is it just me or does Nami has the best support skill set - stun, heal, slow, damage enhance, speed enhance, knockup :o like wow man that skillset just loops OP to me.
Far from it. Her kit is very aggressive, but Nami herself is very squishy. I think she will be like a ranged version of Leona.
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On November 17 2012 02:47 wussleeQ wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2012 02:40 Zdrastochye wrote:On November 17 2012 02:39 Zhiroo wrote:
Is it just me or does Nami has the best support skill set - stun, heal, slow, damage enhance, speed enhance, knockup :o like wow man that skillset just loops OP to me. Factor in the fact that she's made of paper mache and then you find out why she won't be broken upon release. She's pretty fun though I must say :D. That ulti is aweeeeeesome
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At this point not having a strong escape and being a squishy is a major disadvantage to any champion. It's not the other way around where a strong escape was an advantage.
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Is it worth switching to EUW?
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On November 17 2012 02:39 Zhiroo wrote:
Is it just me or does Nami has the best support skill set - stun, heal, slow, damage enhance, speed enhance, knockup :o like wow man that skillset just loops OP to me.
Sounds very much like Janna to me.
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On November 17 2012 02:52 obesechicken13 wrote:
At this point not having a strong escape and being a squishy is a major disadvantage to any champion. It's not the other way around where a strong escape was an advantage.
And then M5 busts out XZ top and rapes face.
On November 17 2012 02:42 AsnSensation wrote:
Had a good run and went 4 wins in a row to have 10 wins 6 losses only to lose 4 in a row again with 3 afk and 1 silver player who doesnt buy wards mid again :D
This will probably continue until you admit that iG aren't top tier. 
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On November 17 2012 03:00 spinesheath wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2012 02:39 Zhiroo wrote:
Is it just me or does Nami has the best support skill set - stun, heal, slow, damage enhance, speed enhance, knockup :o like wow man that skillset just loops OP to me. Sounds very much like Janna to me.
Lots of engage/disengage, but if she gets caught up in the middle of a fight she's going to die pretty quick (similar base health/defensive stats to Janna as well)
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On November 17 2012 02:52 obesechicken13 wrote:
At this point not having a strong escape and being a squishy is a major disadvantage to any champion. It's not the other way around where a strong escape was an advantage.
Considering the changes to boots and movespeed in general, as well as the jungle changes, I consider this statement to be extremely lacking in evidence.
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I havent looked into Nami's stats so much but watching IPL stream atm, and redbaron+Nick Allen analyze her and say that she has more starting hp and armor than nidalee and sick Ap ratios? how is that squishy like some have said here. ( cant check myself atm)
On November 17 2012 03:05 Zdrastochye wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On November 17 2012 02:52 obesechicken13 wrote:
At this point not having a strong escape and being a squishy is a major disadvantage to any champion. It's not the other way around where a strong escape was an advantage. And then M5 busts out XZ top and rapes face. On November 17 2012 02:42 AsnSensation wrote:
Had a good run and went 4 wins in a row to have 10 wins 6 losses only to lose 4 in a row again with 3 afk and 1 silver player who doesnt buy wards mid again :D This will probably continue until you admit that iG aren't top tier.
this is already the second or third time you randomly mentioned this in the general discussion thread and do you somehow think that it upsets me? everybody in this LoL Subforum knows that iG vs M5 could have gone either way ( especially since it was a 2:1) and you're the only one being in denial of iG's skill as a team.
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On November 17 2012 02:52 ticklishmusic wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2012 02:47 wussleeQ wrote:On November 17 2012 02:40 Zdrastochye wrote:On November 17 2012 02:39 Zhiroo wrote:
Is it just me or does Nami has the best support skill set - stun, heal, slow, damage enhance, speed enhance, knockup :o like wow man that skillset just loops OP to me. Factor in the fact that she's made of paper mache and then you find out why she won't be broken upon release. She's pretty fun though I must say :D. That ulti is aweeeeeesome Lulu says hi
Have you seen how long that range is though? o.o I don't know if she'll be the number one support or anything but it just feels really good to throw it out lol.
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On November 17 2012 03:13 AsnSensation wrote:
I havent looked into Nami's stats so much but watching IPL stream atm, and redbaron+Nick Allen analyze her and say that she has more starting hp and armor than nidalee and sick Ap ratios? how is that squishy like some have said here. ( cant check myself atm)
Not according to LoL wiki. Nami has five less starting health, 16 less hp/level, 2 less starting armor (but 0.5 more per level), same base MR, but Nami gets no bonus MR/level as opposed to Nid's 0.75/level.
Edit: Also while her AP ratios are good, but I think what will hurt her if people try to play her mid is her passive and one spell has no affect anyone but allies. She would probably serve more of a Zilean role than a traditional AP carry.
Edit 2: Also CDs are kind of long.
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On November 17 2012 03:15 wussleeQ wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2012 02:52 ticklishmusic wrote:On November 17 2012 02:47 wussleeQ wrote:On November 17 2012 02:40 Zdrastochye wrote:On November 17 2012 02:39 Zhiroo wrote:
Is it just me or does Nami has the best support skill set - stun, heal, slow, damage enhance, speed enhance, knockup :o like wow man that skillset just loops OP to me. Factor in the fact that she's made of paper mache and then you find out why she won't be broken upon release. She's pretty fun though I must say :D. That ulti is aweeeeeesome Lulu says hi Have you seen how long that range is though? o.o I don't know if she'll be the number one support or anything but it just feels really good to throw it out lol.
But you can turn an enemy champ into a bunny...
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On November 17 2012 03:12 Inschato wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2012 02:52 obesechicken13 wrote:
At this point not having a strong escape and being a squishy is a major disadvantage to any champion. It's not the other way around where a strong escape was an advantage. Considering the changes to boots and movespeed in general, as well as the jungle changes, I consider this statement to be extremely lacking in evidence.
There's no net change. Boots start is just weaker. So you can run to tower faster without it.
The evidence is that Khazix, rengar, diana, jayce, darius, hecarim, fiora, nautilus, zed, and sejuani are the most recent melee champions. They all have good escapes or initiates. Most have both.
You can make up for the disadvantage in other ways on some champs but I think it's a major reason why varus and ashe aren't played much.
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On November 17 2012 03:17 onlywonderboy wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2012 03:13 AsnSensation wrote:
I havent looked into Nami's stats so much but watching IPL stream atm, and redbaron+Nick Allen analyze her and say that she has more starting hp and armor than nidalee and sick Ap ratios? how is that squishy like some have said here. ( cant check myself atm) Not according to LoL wiki. Nami has five less starting health, 16 less hp/level, 2 less starting armor (but 0.5 more per level), same base MR, but Nami gets no bonus MR/level as opposed to Nid's 0.75/level.
Hmm maybe RedBaron was just overexaggeration abit, but .75 on Q and .8 on R AP Ratios looks yummy already :D and the Q and R animation are the greatest thing in a long time lol.
also her passive on vayne while running towards an enemy champion= 70-80 additional MS
edit: Below me: I dont think I was wrong lol I was rooting for M5 but wasnt delusional enough like you to think that they will win 100%, if worlds was again today, many people here including myself would still say that Matchup is like 60:40 in favour of M5 and rofl yeah if iG drew TSM for Ro8, I'm pretty sure they would have wiped the floor with TSM.
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On November 17 2012 03:13 AsnSensation wrote:I havent looked into Nami's stats so much but watching IPL stream atm, and redbaron+Nick Allen analyze her and say that she has more starting hp and armor than nidalee and sick Ap ratios? how is that squishy like some have said here. ( cant check myself atm) Show nested quote +On November 17 2012 03:05 Zdrastochye wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On November 17 2012 02:52 obesechicken13 wrote:
At this point not having a strong escape and being a squishy is a major disadvantage to any champion. It's not the other way around where a strong escape was an advantage. And then M5 busts out XZ top and rapes face. On November 17 2012 02:42 AsnSensation wrote:
Had a good run and went 4 wins in a row to have 10 wins 6 losses only to lose 4 in a row again with 3 afk and 1 silver player who doesnt buy wards mid again :D This will probably continue until you admit that iG aren't top tier. this is already the second or third time you randomly mentioned this in the general discussion thread and do you somehow think that it upsets me? everybody in this LoL Subforum knows that iG vs M5 could have gone either way ( especially since it was a 2:1) and you're the only one being in denial of iG's skill as a team.
Because you overhyped them along with several other notables on these forums only to disappear when you're wrong. Also you "saved" my post for when iG "won" vs M5. They would have lost no matter who they drew after group stages. I don't think it upsets you, if I didn't keep insisting bringing it back up nobody would know you were wrong!
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On November 17 2012 03:00 spinesheath wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2012 02:39 Zhiroo wrote:
Is it just me or does Nami has the best support skill set - stun, heal, slow, damage enhance, speed enhance, knockup :o like wow man that skillset just loops OP to me. Sounds very much like Janna to me.
She doesn't seem like Janna at all. Nami has some sustain and her E is purely for offensive uses. Overall her kit rewards aggression because of how her W works.
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On November 17 2012 03:21 Zdrastochye wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2012 03:13 AsnSensation wrote:I havent looked into Nami's stats so much but watching IPL stream atm, and redbaron+Nick Allen analyze her and say that she has more starting hp and armor than nidalee and sick Ap ratios? how is that squishy like some have said here. ( cant check myself atm) On November 17 2012 03:05 Zdrastochye wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On November 17 2012 02:52 obesechicken13 wrote:
At this point not having a strong escape and being a squishy is a major disadvantage to any champion. It's not the other way around where a strong escape was an advantage. And then M5 busts out XZ top and rapes face. On November 17 2012 02:42 AsnSensation wrote:
Had a good run and went 4 wins in a row to have 10 wins 6 losses only to lose 4 in a row again with 3 afk and 1 silver player who doesnt buy wards mid again :D This will probably continue until you admit that iG aren't top tier. this is already the second or third time you randomly mentioned this in the general discussion thread and do you somehow think that it upsets me? everybody in this LoL Subforum knows that iG vs M5 could have gone either way ( especially since it was a 2:1) and you're the only one being in denial of iG's skill as a team. Because you overhyped them along with several other notables on these forums only to disappear when you're wrong. Also you "saved" my post for when iG "won" vs M5. They would have lost no matter who they drew after group stages. I don't think it upsets you, if I didn't keep insisting bringing it back up nobody would know you were wrong!
Huh, but iG are a top tier team oO.
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On November 17 2012 03:24 Numy wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2012 03:21 Zdrastochye wrote:On November 17 2012 03:13 AsnSensation wrote:I havent looked into Nami's stats so much but watching IPL stream atm, and redbaron+Nick Allen analyze her and say that she has more starting hp and armor than nidalee and sick Ap ratios? how is that squishy like some have said here. ( cant check myself atm) On November 17 2012 03:05 Zdrastochye wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On November 17 2012 02:52 obesechicken13 wrote:
At this point not having a strong escape and being a squishy is a major disadvantage to any champion. It's not the other way around where a strong escape was an advantage. And then M5 busts out XZ top and rapes face. On November 17 2012 02:42 AsnSensation wrote:
Had a good run and went 4 wins in a row to have 10 wins 6 losses only to lose 4 in a row again with 3 afk and 1 silver player who doesnt buy wards mid again :D This will probably continue until you admit that iG aren't top tier. this is already the second or third time you randomly mentioned this in the general discussion thread and do you somehow think that it upsets me? everybody in this LoL Subforum knows that iG vs M5 could have gone either way ( especially since it was a 2:1) and you're the only one being in denial of iG's skill as a team. Because you overhyped them along with several other notables on these forums only to disappear when you're wrong. Also you "saved" my post for when iG "won" vs M5. They would have lost no matter who they drew after group stages. I don't think it upsets you, if I didn't keep insisting bringing it back up nobody would know you were wrong! Huh, but iG are a top tier team oO.
Yes, they are.
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On November 17 2012 03:21 Zdrastochye wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2012 03:13 AsnSensation wrote:I havent looked into Nami's stats so much but watching IPL stream atm, and redbaron+Nick Allen analyze her and say that she has more starting hp and armor than nidalee and sick Ap ratios? how is that squishy like some have said here. ( cant check myself atm) On November 17 2012 03:05 Zdrastochye wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On November 17 2012 02:52 obesechicken13 wrote:
At this point not having a strong escape and being a squishy is a major disadvantage to any champion. It's not the other way around where a strong escape was an advantage. And then M5 busts out XZ top and rapes face. On November 17 2012 02:42 AsnSensation wrote:
Had a good run and went 4 wins in a row to have 10 wins 6 losses only to lose 4 in a row again with 3 afk and 1 silver player who doesnt buy wards mid again :D This will probably continue until you admit that iG aren't top tier. this is already the second or third time you randomly mentioned this in the general discussion thread and do you somehow think that it upsets me? everybody in this LoL Subforum knows that iG vs M5 could have gone either way ( especially since it was a 2:1) and you're the only one being in denial of iG's skill as a team. Because you overhyped them along with several other notables on these forums only to disappear when you're wrong. Also you "saved" my post for when iG "won" vs M5. They would have lost no matter who they drew after group stages. I don't think it upsets you, if I didn't keep insisting bringing it back up nobody would know you were wrong!
You are hilariously petty and no one cares.
ps. iG is a top tier team.
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Why anyone would prefer to talk about iG over Xin Zhao is beyond me.
xin is a fucking beast
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