|
On November 16 2012 13:12 onlywonderboy wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2012 13:11 BlackPaladin wrote: Mercurial Scimitar
High End Magic Resistance / Attack Damage Item Recipe: Quicksilver Sash + B.F. Sword Active: Cleanses all debuffs from your character. If your character is melee, he gains 100% movement speed for 1 second.
LOLOLOL That AD carry you're peeling for? Yeah, he died like 5 seconds ago. Gonna be Doublelift's new favorite item.
This is exactly what i was thinking lol, but I have to say props to riot for actually experimenting with such huge changes, gonna be amazing when s3 starts, really looking forward to it.
|
On November 16 2012 13:25 GhandiEAGLE wrote:Liandry's Lament Controlled Burn Mage Item Recipe*  Haunting Guise, Amplifying Tome Passive: Dealing spell damage burns enemies for a % of their current life over 3 seconds. This effect deals double damage if the target's movement is impaired. Rumble... ohh shit hes gonna be broken. It even builds out of haunting guise x,x This thing looks like it's been designed specifically to make Sejuani viable. I don't think the stats could possibly be more tailored to her.
|
On November 16 2012 13:10 TheKefka wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2012 13:07 petered wrote:On November 16 2012 13:05 gtrsrs wrote:On November 16 2012 13:02 WaveofShadow wrote: Wow they added bottle from DotA. i think i called this too, back when i started playing league like there's no way this item shouldn't have already been in the game Not a Dota player, which item is bottle? It's a bottle that has 3 charges and each time you use it you gain mana and hp.The bottle refiles when you go back to the base or when you bottle a rune.
It's not really the same without rune capping though... my understanding is that bottle is something you buy on mid so you can go gank more efficiently, and it refills itself at good timings for doing so because you can effectively pick up buffs. Does the item really make sense without that?
|
with amumu already wanting a glacial, benefiting from sheen's ap, and having an E+W that are kind of spammable it seems like frozen fist adding an aoe slow to his natural aoe damage/cc could be somewhat useful.
|
rofl, they nerf dfg and a few weeks later they create THAT monster and call it dfg?
also, turret disable with an item that u can get during laning phase, wat.
just to name a few issues, im sure there is more broken stuff in there.
They can break their whole game with this patch. GL on your first workweeks mogwai HAHA
|
On November 16 2012 13:25 onlywonderboy wrote: What I'm hoping is that they are going to leave this patch on the PBE longer than usual and try and get it AS CLOSE to balanced as possible before the patch goes live. Still, I'm pretty excited. They're going to need many months for that, so I dunno how long they'll actually decide to put it there. Probably not very long since they'll want to push it out during the preseason.
|
On November 16 2012 13:37 GreenManalishi wrote: Well, this game is over at 5 minutes.
That extended opening fight was hilarious. It's almost as if every time a new Quantic member strolled in they were thinking, "Surely, it can't happen to me too...damn."
|
United States47024 Posts
On November 16 2012 13:40 UniversalSnip wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2012 13:10 TheKefka wrote:On November 16 2012 13:07 petered wrote:On November 16 2012 13:05 gtrsrs wrote:On November 16 2012 13:02 WaveofShadow wrote: Wow they added bottle from DotA. i think i called this too, back when i started playing league like there's no way this item shouldn't have already been in the game Not a Dota player, which item is bottle? It's a bottle that has 3 charges and each time you use it you gain mana and hp.The bottle refiles when you go back to the base or when you bottle a rune. It's not really the same without rune capping though... my understanding is that bottle is something you buy on mid so you can go gank more efficiently, and it refills itself at good timings for doing so because you can effectively pick up buffs. Does the item really make sense without that? You can also refill the Bottle with the courier in DotA, which significantly increases it's effectiveness.
It'll come down to how the item is priced though. It still has the potential to be an alternative to other lane sustain items if the price is aggressive enough (I could see it being bought at, say, 300 gold, seeing as it's basically 2 health pots and a mana pot every time you leave base, so it pays for itself after 2 refills).
It actually sounds more practical on junglers than laners since junglers back more often.
|
Ugh I'm getting that bug where after a really long queue it tells me that I'm already assigned to a game and doesn't allow me to reconnect. I just bought Zed too =(
|
United States23745 Posts
On November 16 2012 13:43 Craton wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2012 13:25 onlywonderboy wrote: What I'm hoping is that they are going to leave this patch on the PBE longer than usual and try and get it AS CLOSE to balanced as possible before the patch goes live. Still, I'm pretty excited. They're going to need many months for that, so I dunno how long they'll actually decide to put it there. Probably not very long since they'll want to push it out during the preseason. I would hope they give it at least a month, but I don't know if we'll get that long. Man PBE queues are going to be crazy long.
Edit: Also got the reconnect bug, bummer.
|
On November 16 2012 13:45 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2012 13:40 UniversalSnip wrote:On November 16 2012 13:10 TheKefka wrote:On November 16 2012 13:07 petered wrote:On November 16 2012 13:05 gtrsrs wrote:On November 16 2012 13:02 WaveofShadow wrote: Wow they added bottle from DotA. i think i called this too, back when i started playing league like there's no way this item shouldn't have already been in the game Not a Dota player, which item is bottle? It's a bottle that has 3 charges and each time you use it you gain mana and hp.The bottle refiles when you go back to the base or when you bottle a rune. It's not really the same without rune capping though... my understanding is that bottle is something you buy on mid so you can go gank more efficiently, and it refills itself at good timings for doing so because you can effectively pick up buffs. Does the item really make sense without that? You can also refill the Bottle with the courier in DotA, which significantly increases it's effectiveness. It'll come down to how the item is priced though. It still has the potential to be an alternative to other lane sustain items if the price is aggressive enough (I could see it being bought at, say, 300 gold, seeing as it's basically 2 health pots and a mana pot every time you leave base, so it pays for itself after 2 refills). It actually sounds more practical on junglers than laners since junglers back more often.
Yeah, but I mean, why do we need an alternative? I don't really see what it's supposed to push toward.
|
United States47024 Posts
On November 16 2012 13:47 UniversalSnip wrote: Yeah, but I mean, why do we need an alternative? I don't really see what it's supposed to push toward. Right now the only real mixed-regen option for junglers is Philo Stone, which is comparatively expensive and slow to develop. A much more aggressively priced option could push forward jungler item timings, especially if there's more gold in the jungle on the whole.
Also keep in mind that because several of the basic health/mana regen items are going away, the list of regen item options in general could change a lot.
|
Dota comparisons are silly, it has courier but it doesn't have free recalls, also all the heroes different and the monsters are different and the items are different and it's almost like maybe it's a completely different game. New item probably is inspired by bottle but there's no reason to expect it to balance in the same way...
|
Locodoco 18 minutes deathcap on Sona.
|
On November 16 2012 13:45 HazMat wrote: Ugh I'm getting that bug where after a really long queue it tells me that I'm already assigned to a game and doesn't allow me to reconnect. I just bought Zed too =( Same error here too, friend. Sad day.
|
On November 16 2012 13:58 susySquark wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2012 13:45 HazMat wrote: Ugh I'm getting that bug where after a really long queue it tells me that I'm already assigned to a game and doesn't allow me to reconnect. I just bought Zed too =( Same error here too, friend. Sad day.
Same, except no Zed.
|
On November 16 2012 13:28 Scip wrote: Shurelyas was bought a LOT on bruisers, support-only items were like, Mana Manip, Soul Shroud, MAYBE Zeke's. Not much else. Zekes had a lot of useless stats for the support and the support wasn't always with the ADC in every skirmish. It was barely efficient with several ADs as it stood as someone had to weaken their own multiplicative scaling and damage output by buying the item. I've tried it on top lane kayle a lot. Soul shroud is a support item but it gave relatively little to the owner for its cost as well and was never bought. I understand shurelias was bought on a lot of bruisers like skarner but that didn't really make them any stronger of a duelist. In tournaments and stream I'd just see malphite ult in, and then immediately flash out because buying shurelias made him less tanky. Defensive stats have multiplicative scaling too. Buying a half tank item like wits or sunfire and then going to shurelias and calling oneself tanky on a bruiser would be the ADC equivalent of buying a maw and then a frozen mallet and saying they did damage.
Someone mentioned that the game would be more and more about items than what champion you picked or your individual skill. It kind of already is. When your opponent is up 3 dorans blades to 1 top lane, you've lost the lane no matter what champion you or your opponent are. As long as they freeze the lane they can zone you forever.
|
On November 16 2012 13:39 Jumbled wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2012 13:25 GhandiEAGLE wrote:Liandry's Lament Controlled Burn Mage Item Recipe*  Haunting Guise, Amplifying Tome Passive: Dealing spell damage burns enemies for a % of their current life over 3 seconds. This effect deals double damage if the target's movement is impaired. Rumble... ohh shit hes gonna be broken. It even builds out of haunting guise x,x This thing looks like it's been designed specifically to make Sejuani viable. I don't think the stats could possibly be more tailored to her. More like rylais magic pen rumble's wet dream.
|
On November 16 2012 13:45 HazMat wrote: Ugh I'm getting that bug where after a really long queue it tells me that I'm already assigned to a game and doesn't allow me to reconnect. I just bought Zed too =(
Just got it as well -__-
|
Welcome to the club, I haven't been able to get in a queue for more than an hour.
|
|
|
|