EPT[Patch 1.0.0.151: End of S2] General Discussion - Page 41
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TheYango
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
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Doctorbeat
Netherlands13241 Posts
On November 15 2012 05:34 thenexusp wrote: Posted by a red on the official forums: Maybe some sort of way so that being out of combat a long time reduces flash CD? or that you can use flash if you're not interacting with enemy champions or something? It sounds like they want to have junglers be able to use flash offensively to gank. | ||
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XaCez
Sweden6991 Posts
On November 15 2012 05:34 thenexusp wrote: Posted by a red on the official forums: Kills and Assists reduces the Cooldown of Flash by XX Seconds, I would imagine. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
I really like the Ahri and Miss Fortune modified splashes. Riot pl0x. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On November 15 2012 05:37 Doctorbeat wrote: Maybe some sort of way so that being out of combat a long time reduces flash CD? or that you can use flash if you're not interacting with enemy champions or something? It sounds like they want to have junglers be able to use flash offensively to gank. Most likely it's going to be an item that reduces summoner CDs like the remade Eleisa's we saw before. | ||
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lilwisper
United States2515 Posts
On November 15 2012 05:34 TheYango wrote: Here's an interesting question: does Hurricane trigger defensive on-attack procs? E.g. do Hurricane secondary shots hitting a target with Warden's Mail trigger the MS/AS slow? So instead of an AD being offensive, they could spec to provide ranged covering fire? I like the sound of that. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On November 15 2012 05:40 lilwisper wrote: So instead of an AD being offensive, they could spec to provide ranged covering fire? I like the sound of that. No, you're misunderstanding me. Warden's Mail triggers on BEING hit. I'm asking whether that applies to an AD hitting a target with Warden's with secondary shots. Because if so, the item could actually backfire--and net you a LOSS of DPS if you're repeatedly proccing enemy Warden's Mails with the secondary bolts. Currently, proccing Warden's/Randuin's is a significant and noticeable loss of damage for an AD--but controllable if you're not put in a situation where you have to focus the Warden's carrier. If Hurricane secondary bolts trigger Warden's, you may inadvertently trigger the Warden's slow on yourself even if you're not attacking the Warden's carrier. | ||
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lilwisper
United States2515 Posts
On November 15 2012 05:44 TheYango wrote: No, you're misunderstanding me. Warden's Mail triggers on BEING hit. I'm asking whether that applies to an AD hitting a target with Warden's with secondary shots. Because if so, the item could actually backfire--and net you a LOSS of DPS if you're repeatedly proccing enemy Warden's Mails. Ah I get you now. | ||
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thenexusp
United States3721 Posts
On November 15 2012 05:42 Requizen wrote: After reflection, the champion I'm going to build Hurricane on 100% of every game is Teemo. FMallet/Hurricane/BoRK + Show Spoiler + badgerbadgerbadgerbadgerbadgerbadgerbadgerbadgerbadgerbadgerbadgerbadgerbadgerbadgerbadgerbadger + Show Spoiler + mushroom mushroom snaaaaaake oh snaaaaake oh it's a snaaaaake The funny thing is cass's E works with teemo's poison If I were to guess about the flash thing it'd be an item or mastery (probably item) that reduces flash CD on kill or assist, seeing that they already do really like the "gapcloser resets on kill/assist" mechanic (trist, kat, khazix, akali...) | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
What I am more interested in is whether or not the bolts will also apply Ashe's Q. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On November 15 2012 05:49 Sufficiency wrote: What I am more interested in is whether or not the bolts will also apply Ashe's Q. I dont see why not. They apply on-hit effects, plain and simple. The only reason the Vayne exception is brought up is because Silver Bolt's explicitly resets if you swap targets (which would therefore prevent it from ever reaching 3 stacks if the secondary Hurricane bolts procced it--each Hurricane bolt would reset the stack counter switching targets). | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On November 15 2012 05:49 Sufficiency wrote: Beside on Kog'maw and maybe marginally on Varus, this item isn't really that great (at least not on ADC). In order to deal 2x the damage (barring crits), you need to be hitting 3 targets at once. ADCs typically do not have the luxury to do that. What I am more interested in is whether or not the bolts will also apply Ashe's Q. I would assume. I think it's more of a situational item, the type of which they want to have more of. Are you going to get it on ADs every game? No, but if you're in an AoE comp, or you end up in a game where you want to burn down multiple people at the same time instead of a single target, it could be a worthy AS choice over the nerfed PD. Also, since it looks like the other procs will give Lifesteal, this looks like a great tool to pair up with BT if you want to be really survivable in fights. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
So while Hurricane might ensure lots of Randuin's procs, presuming the enemy team stacked them, the DPS loss isn't as much of a concern as the potential for being caught. | ||
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thenexusp
United States3721 Posts
EDIT: This is exactly like MTG previews, they show us some cool items/cards out-of-context and forumites spend hours on theorycraft that is 75% wrong in the end. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On November 15 2012 05:55 Sufficiency wrote: If it works on all of Ashe's shots, then it will solve a lot of Ashe's problems. Actually it might make her a bit overpowered. Support Ashe new meta with this + Pickpocket. Harass in lane, always slow. In seriousness though, this will be nice on her with the new Tear, AoE slow on autos that builds her mana and gives her another Toggle for more damage. Maybe her build will be different from most ADs. | ||
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TheSinisterRed
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thenexusp
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