[Patch 1.0.0.151: End of S2] General Discussion - Page 253

On November 30 2012 06:19 wei2coolman wrote:

I think that's more so Rengar being broken as fuck, rather than a top lane coming back.
The only real way to win back top lane is. if the enemy toplane starts roaming with advantage, and you stay toplane farm up, and hopefully your team doesn't get raped by the roaming enemy toplaner.

On November 30 2012 07:47 cLutZ wrote:
I feel sad that I missed the entire 6 pages of conversation based on my offhand comment that LW isn't always the best 3rd DPS option on a Carry. Especially considering I was talking mostly about Kog (and to a lesser extent the Ezreal TF>BT>LW build, which is a timing window thing that some people do too blindly), and it created a massive Silver Bolts conversation.

On November 30 2012 07:55 TwoToneTerran wrote:


Here's some math for you:

http://www.reignofgaming.net/blogs/a-different-view/gentleman-gustaf/21273-yelling-about-last-whisper

Note this article was made before they nerfed Corki's passive.

On November 30 2012 07:54 thenexusp wrote:
Speaking of AD carry builds, when do you guys start buying green elixirs? I used to only get them after full build but now I'm thinking you probably want to start getting them sooner, since they're so good for the cost. I get them when I have 5 complete items + a piece of the 6th, but maybe it'd be good to start chugging them even earlier? dunno

On November 30 2012 05:40 TheYango wrote:

But the overall level of LoL play isn't so high that is a limiting factor yet.

BW only really hit that point after like 7-8 years (at the point where you could say TBLS were dominating on the basis of their talent AND their practice). LoL isn't anywhere close to that yet.

On November 30 2012 08:57 Alaric wrote:
The invades going on at IPL5 make me wonder about S3 jungle: even if you invade and steal a buff, your level 2 jungler won't be able to kill his own second buff by himself, so won't it weaken invades (and "give a buff to X laner with TP") a lot by itself?

On November 30 2012 09:00 Numy wrote:
I wonder a lot about S3 jungle too. What they said they want to achieve and what they are going to achieve I think are going to be completely different things

On November 30 2012 08:57 Alaric wrote:
The invades going on at IPL5 make me wonder about S3 jungle: even if you invade and steal a buff, your level 2 jungler won't be able to kill his own second buff by himself, so won't it weaken invades (and "give a buff to X laner with TP") a lot by itself?

On November 30 2012 08:57 Alaric wrote:
The invades going on at IPL5 make me wonder about S3 jungle: even if you invade and steal a buff, your level 2 jungler won't be able to kill his own second buff by himself, so won't it weaken invades (and "give a buff to X laner with TP") a lot by itself?

On November 30 2012 09:24 Alaric wrote:
Sounds risky if you can't get the enemy team totally out of their buff area, or they can go for the smite if you don't use yours. May even be a win for them.

On November 30 2012 08:10 cLutZ wrote:


Seems to agree with what I usually observe, but it really isn't talking about the TF first builds (which confuse me just as much). I don't know what people actually think about, but here is what I assume (as Corki/Ezreal) (lets assume they are playing an AD Carry with an arguably better lategame, like Kog, Vayne, Ashe or Trist). This is the sequence of events that confuses me:

1. I'll grab this phage then crush in lane! Doesn't Crush.
2. Ill finish TF, then we will win a big dragon fight. Win a dragon fight (or not) but doesn't snowball the game out of control.
3. Got the BF sword, if I make a Bloodthirster, we will win because of my midgame power! Midgame power not exploited.
4. Welp LW is like way cheaper than IE, better get it for this Baron! Baron doesn't happen for a few minutes.
5. TEAMFIGHT! Meanwhile you have TF/BT/LW vs. IE/PD/LW(or other). and the damage difference is highly observable (not only because of the lategame champ disparity), particularly on Ezreal.