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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
p0st noodz | ||
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
better hop on that wagon before it gets big | ||
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SgtSquiglz
United States668 Posts
On November 28 2012 06:25 gtrsrs wrote: so elise is the next jayce better hop on that wagon before it gets big Yeah, its crazy I just tried her for the first time last night. And her q poke in ranged form is point-and-click too, cant miss like how I always do with jayce q.. | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
On November 28 2012 06:25 gtrsrs wrote: so elise is the next jayce better hop on that wagon before it gets big she's pretty stupid. anytime i can go top with a champ and win the first time i play him/her, i automatically classify it as easymode or op. | ||
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Doctorbeat
Netherlands13241 Posts
On November 28 2012 06:25 gtrsrs wrote: so elise is the next jayce better hop on that wagon before it gets big Already did. /hipster. How are you guys building her? I go the sorcs+guise+glacial shroud as core and the rest comes along (with Abyssal/GA/Zhonya/Dcap/Void/Triforce/etc as optional choices). Anyone know something better? I heard a guy would build her Triforce, but I don't know who it was and/or the entire build. Her Q harrass is definitely awesome, especially against guys without any early sustain (Darius, Singed, Jax, even Olaf/Irelia, pretty much all the FOTM). She's still pretty damn squishy even if you build tanky. Also, Rappel is one of the most fun ways to bait huge cooldowns. I rappeled a Malph ult earlier today, was gz. Also, the best combo is landing E and then Q+W, R, activate W, Q and wait for them to run/flash to use your rappel, correct? Or do some of you start in spider form? | ||
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Sandster
United States4054 Posts
On November 28 2012 05:54 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote: Is that a no-jungle elise/jax top lane? That's a support Elise with Jax toplane, and a support Nunu with smite bot lane giving buffs to Graves early on. m5 rolled IG but the gold was dead even out of the laning phase. Right now the lanes take jungles anyway, so IG took it to an extreme and gave all wolves/wraiths to mid and golems to bot lane, and buffs to the appropriate people. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
I should play her more... | ||
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overt
United States9006 Posts
On November 28 2012 06:35 Sandster wrote: That's a support Elise with Jax toplane, and a support Nunu with smite bot lane giving buffs to Graves early on. m5 rolled IG but the gold was dead even out of the laning phase. Right now the lanes take jungles anyway, so IG took it to an extreme and gave all wolves/wraiths to mid and golems to bot lane, and buffs to the appropriate people. Dunno if that strategy would work as well (or at all) on purple side 'cause bot lane can't farm golems. Also would be interesting to see how that strategy would work in the new jungle once that change hits. It's cool to see teams trying new stuff though. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On November 28 2012 06:39 overt wrote: Dunno if that strategy would work as well (or at all) on purple side 'cause bot lane can't farm golems. Also would be interesting to see how that strategy would work in the new jungle once that change hits. It's cool to see teams trying new stuff though. You can do laneswap if you're purple side as well, I'd guess. If you take a champ who already can 1v2 lane (Jax, Irelia, etc) and give them the same sort of pseudo support like they did with Elise, it could work out. | ||
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Zess
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
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overt
United States9006 Posts
On November 28 2012 06:41 Requizen wrote: You can do laneswap if you're purple side as well, I'd guess. If you take a champ who already can 1v2 lane (Jax, Irelia, etc) and give them the same sort of pseudo support like they did with Elise, it could work out. I didn't really understand the Elise pick either to be honest. That team has no initiation minus Orianna or Elise's shitty initiation with her single target stun. All you need the top lane support for is harassing/zoning so that Jax or some other melee carry can get a big gold advantage even though he'll have a level disadvantage. There's surely other supports that could harass just as well or better while being more useful later in the game. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On November 28 2012 06:44 overt wrote: I didn't really understand the Elise pick either to be honest. That team has no initiation minus Orianna or Elise's shitty initiation with her single target stun. All you need the top lane support for is harassing/zoning so that Jax or some other melee carry can get a big gold advantage even though he'll have a level disadvantage. There's surely other supports that could harass just as well or better while being more useful later in the game. True, however, I think Elise has some of the higher base damage poke in the game with her humanoid abilities. If she can utilize that to harass out a top lane or just assist Jax in laning, Jax's late game can make up for hers in a big way. I think the strat has a lot of downsides that can be abused, but I don't think Elise as a champ is one of them. EDIT: I need an idea for a small but complex programming project that I can attach to my Riot application. What is something small that you guys think could be automated via a succinct and efficient program? I could do one of my bigger ideas, but they'd all be like, weeks to a month of work and I want to get this application out soon-ish. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On November 28 2012 06:44 overt wrote: I didn't really understand the Elise pick either to be honest. That team has no initiation minus Orianna or Elise's shitty initiation with her single target stun. All you need the top lane support for is harassing/zoning so that Jax or some other melee carry can get a big gold advantage even though he'll have a level disadvantage. There's surely other supports that could harass just as well or better while being more useful later in the game. They picked support Elise because they lost to WE using it, and they wanted to try it. | ||
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
Elise just reminds me of kennen top lane without the AOE stun to make his dominant laning a good pick. | ||
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
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thenexusp
United States3721 Posts
On November 28 2012 06:49 Requizen wrote: True, however, I think Elise has some of the higher base damage poke in the game with her humanoid abilities. If she can utilize that to harass out a top lane or just assist Jax in laning, Jax's late game can make up for hers in a big way. I think the strat has a lot of downsides that can be abused, but I don't think Elise as a champ is one of them. EDIT: I need an idea for a small but complex programming project that I can attach to my Riot application. What is something small that you guys think could be automated via a succinct and efficient program? I could do one of my bigger ideas, but they'd all be like, weeks to a month of work and I want to get this application out soon-ish. Tribunal helper. Automatically scrapes the tribunal case you're deciding and highlights things that would make it easy to quickly decide "punish" on a case (e.g. "uninstall", "faggot", etc). Would be helpful for those games where the chat log is somehow 1000 lines long. Bonus points if it automatically clicks punish for you on particularly obvious cases. Super bonus if it just straight up does the tribunal for you (maybe some machine learning algorithm can get a decent success rate?) | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
On November 28 2012 07:05 VayneAuthority wrote: also spoiler - dont pick jax against elise, you're not going to have fun. you need some one with sustain or all in potential, neither of which jax has Frankly, I'm not sure that I really want to lane with Jax anymore. I've been doing much better with him in the S2 jungle, and I expect him to do even better in the S3 jungle. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On November 28 2012 07:05 thenexusp wrote: Tribunal helper. Automatically scrapes the tribunal case you're deciding and highlights things that would make it easy to quickly decide "punish" on a case (e.g. "uninstall", "faggot", etc). Would be helpful for those games where the chat log is somehow 1000 lines long. Bonus points if it automatically clicks punish for you on particularly obvious cases. Super bonus if it just straight up does the tribunal for you (maybe some machine learning algorithm can get a decent success rate?) Hm, just a searching program could be within the realm of reason, but I don't think they'd be fond of an automation system. I also don't know if a web crawler type application is something I can throw together quickly like that, but it's a thought. | ||
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
On November 28 2012 07:10 xDaunt wrote: Frankly, I'm not sure that I really want to lane with Jax anymore. I've been doing much better with him in the S2 jungle, and I expect him to do even better in the S3 jungle. he will be strong season 3 just on the premise that he will be one of the few champs left that can freeze top lane. (his dodge/stun allows him to tank massive amounts of minions whereas other champs wont be able to now if that isnt clear) | ||
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
On November 28 2012 07:10 xDaunt wrote: Frankly, I'm not sure that I really want to lane with Jax anymore. I've been doing much better with him in the S2 jungle, and I expect him to do even better in the S3 jungle. Where you gettin the farm Jax needs though. | ||
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