EPT[Patch 1.0.0.151: End of S2] General Discussion - Page 214
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Sandster
United States4054 Posts
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On November 27 2012 00:27 billy5000 wrote: Speaking of which, how do you exactly deal with a kill lane combo in terms of our timing window? I'm usually playing aggressive supports and I've had some bad experience with playing aggressive early on. But usually how long do I have to be passive? I've had a couple of games when I thought we played passively for longer than we should have. It depends on a lot of things. I know it's kind of an inane answer, but if you're playing vs an aggressive/kill lane, you play passive until you can fight them without dying. You just need a feel for when that is. Generally, it means you can't fight until you get support from the mid or jungle, so you're passive until it's no longer a 2v2 scenario. Farm, maybe push, and try to get the game into a teamfight stage where you can contribute more than farm and babysit to survive. | ||
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Inschato
Canada1349 Posts
On November 27 2012 00:31 Sandster wrote: By the way I haven't played support in a long time, and I used to run 0/9/21 masteries with gp5 quints and armor reds. What are standard openings now? I assume 14/0/16, 9/5/16, and 1/13/16 are pretty popular? Or maybe even x/x/14. You do know that's all going to be completely irrelevant really really soon. PS: Ah crap Requizen, I hope they don't find out about Jungle Taric  (Actually didn't he get some nerfs because of that?) | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
On November 27 2012 00:32 Inschato wrote: You do know that's all going to be completely irrelevant really really soon. PS: Ah crap Requizen, I hope they don't find out about Jungle Taric (Actually didn't he get some nerfs because of that?)I would recommend switching between a 0 9 21 and a 0 21 9 depending on if you're playing a tanky lane bruiser or a more pure support. You want dat gp5 on a pure support, but you can sacrifice a bit for the sake of being a complete bully on other champs. Far as runes go, you can play around with switching gp5 quints and movespeed quints depending on the situation. I play around with movespeed quints and gp5 yellows on Taric b/c of his armor passive. I don't think I'm at the skill level where it makes a huge difference though. But yeah, I'll probably need to redo that stuff for S3. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19573 Posts
On November 26 2012 22:27 adriftt wrote: i think its kinda funny, i like doublelift and think hes great at teamfighting but its even more obvious now how much chauster carried them in laning phase Dlift is probably the "best" ADC at farming out of the lane phase. I say best, but I really mean "WHY THE HELL DOES NO ONE EVER PUNISH CLG WHEN DLIFT IS AFK FARMING!" It happens in 8/10 games CLG wins vs. real teams. Jiji and Hotshot are behind for the midgame (when top/mid are strongest), the other team does nothing as Dlift gets 300 CS, then they win a teamfight at 35 mins, or splitpush and win. TSM kinda figured this out some time this last year, IDK why other people haven't. | ||
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Sponkz
Denmark4564 Posts
On November 27 2012 00:31 Sandster wrote: By the way I haven't played support in a long time, and I used to run 0/9/21 masteries with gp5 quints and armor reds. What are standard openings now? I assume 14/0/16, 9/5/16, and 1/13/16 are pretty popular? Or maybe even x/x/14. 1/16/13 and 9/0/21 is pretty much what i use. First one when u want beefiness, second one for extreme poke. I tried 9/14/7 but it felt inferior to 9/0/21. | ||
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JokerSan
United States306 Posts
also exhaust+ is op and bonus gold is op | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
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adriftt
335 Posts
On November 27 2012 00:39 cLutZ wrote: Dlift is probably the "best" ADC at farming out of the lane phase. I say best, but I really mean "WHY THE HELL DOES NO ONE EVER PUNISH CLG WHEN DLIFT IS AFK FARMING!" It happens in 8/10 games CLG wins vs. real teams. Jiji and Hotshot are behind for the midgame (when top/mid are strongest), the other team does nothing as Dlift gets 300 CS, then they win a teamfight at 35 mins, or splitpush and win. TSM kinda figured this out some time this last year, IDK why other people haven't. actually if you watch the games at MLG dallas sword kept 3 man ganking him when he went off to do his afk farm routine | ||
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
On November 27 2012 00:27 billy5000 wrote: Speaking of which, how do you exactly deal with a kill lane combo in terms of our timing window (as standard adc+support)? I'm usually playing aggressive supports and I've had some bad experience with playing aggressive early on. But usually how long do I have to be passive? I've had a couple of games when I thought we played passively for longer than we should have. You play passive until you've become strong enough to be a threat to the kill lane. When you reach that point will vary wildly depending on jungle pressure, skill, gold income, champion picks etc. For example, it's a lot easier to reach that point on Caitlyn as opposed to Vayne. Typically once Caitlyn has a B.F. Sword she can harass the enemy bruisers and take control of the lane. Vayne, however, does not have the range to pull that off safely and has to either be extremely skillful, lucky, or remain careful for longer. | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
If you really think you'd rather be playing a 4v5 you have an attitude problem, unless they're straight up 0/20 and walking into the enemy base repeatedly. If that's the case nothing you say is going to help and you should just report them for trolling. There are a lot of bad players. Calling them bad doesn't help them get better, it just makes them angry and likely will distract them into playing worse or convince them to not try as hard. | ||
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Taktik
Poland680 Posts
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Simberto
Germany11458 Posts
On November 27 2012 01:00 Taktik wrote: Got a newb question xd How to bind /laugh /joke etc. to keys? Couldnt find that option ;/ They are already bound to ctrl + 1-4 by default, and i seem to recall an option for that being in the menu. Edit: Please don't spam those, its annoying. | ||
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Celial
2602 Posts
On November 27 2012 01:04 Simberto wrote: They are already bound to ctrl + 1-4 by default, and i seem to recall an option for that being in the menu. Edit: Please don't spam those, its annoying. Except when you are Blitzcrank, Lux or Singed. Laughing is mandatory to perform well with these champions. | ||
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Crownlol
United States3726 Posts
On November 27 2012 00:24 Inschato wrote: If by feels amazing you mean is completely silly... She has more CC than Leona, it's all ranged, and she does way more damage than said Leona. Superior bush control. Ridiculous, someone tell me why she isn't going to get nerfed? I wasn't saying that she's not OP, but it feels awesome to get scores like 6/1/25+ as a support. You can build pure AP bruiser after the laning phase- I even made new rune and mastery pages called "carrysupport". Just played a game with AP Kennan top and Morg in mid. Teamfights were a joke with Zyra/Morg/Kennan aoe dmg+cc ults all popped. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19573 Posts
On November 27 2012 00:45 adriftt wrote: actually if you watch the games at MLG dallas sword kept 3 man ganking him when he went off to do his afk farm routine And they 2-0'd NA. I was mostly saying that a bunch of NA teams failed to do that (usually when you are praising TSM it is in relation to the remainder of NA). | ||
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thenexusp
United States3721 Posts
CTRL-4 E Q auto E R CTRL-4 auto | ||
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VirgilSC2
United States6151 Posts
On November 27 2012 01:12 Celial wrote: Except when you are Blitzcrank, Lux or Singed. Laughing is mandatory to perform well with these champions. Or Nunu Bot | ||
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SagaZ
France3460 Posts
it's all about the sexual tension in lane | ||
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