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United States10536 Posts
On November 26 2012 03:14 BlackPaladin wrote: Um was sunfire cape randomly nerfed back to magic damage instead of true damage? That's what thst pbe shop site seems to imply... Cause you know, so many people buy it and all. The true damage change you're thinking of never made it off the PBE way back when. | ||
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BlackPaladin
United States9316 Posts
Imanidiot.jpg Ah, thanks monte. I was looking at the wiki for patch notes and was like wtf lol Also the statik shiv vs PD seems silly to me. PD is still the go to choice for ranged AD carries, and for bruisers who actually want one or the other (which are few and far between) you'd want the ignore unit collision more than the 100 magic damage to 4 targets every so often. Creep blocking is like a melee's worst nightmare. | ||
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XaCez
Sweden6991 Posts
On November 26 2012 03:07 Chiharu Harukaze wrote: which is why there's only one item that gives MR and HP I count three, Aegis, BV and Visage. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
Q63. Hesitation: what are your typical preferences for glyphs and quintessences based on your playstyle? Toyz: flat AP quintessences, flat magic penetration marks, health/level seals and ap/level glyphs | ||
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Sermokala
United States14104 Posts
On November 25 2012 21:44 Hakanfrog wrote: Anyone played Nami yet? I was thinking about picking her up since she looked cool but looking at her kit she seems kinda bad. She doesn´t seem suitable for mid but I guess she could work as a support. Is she worth picking up? Shes The type of support you will want with Mele adc's instead of ranged adcs. The rock (j4) and roll (nami) conection is the most amazing thing you've ever seen. Its been really quiet but I'd expect that riot made nami to make mele adc's viable. | ||
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
On November 26 2012 03:54 Sufficiency wrote: From Toyz AMA: Q63. Hesitation: what are your typical preferences for glyphs and quintessences based on your playstyle? Toyz: flat AP quintessences, flat magic penetration marks, health/level seals and ap/level glyphs pretty standard, only thing that's different from "common build" is that he's using scaling ap instead of MR blues. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On November 26 2012 03:04 barbsq wrote: i thought they said they were basically redistributing FoN functionality. Presumably, that also means a big-ticket MR item? also, I think banshees is a pretty good choice if it gets a few qol buffs. Well, the item with the most MR on it now is SV, but I don't think it's nearly as good. FoN was nearly always a good choice because MS, heavy MR, and the regen passive were good for everyone. Heath, CDR, and MR are good on everyone too, but the SV passive works with a pretty limited champ pool, it's either amazing (Mundo, Voli, Singed) or essentially useless (Malphite, Naut, Amumu). But then again, that's kind of nitpicking, I guess. It's still good stats for the combine cost (+5 MR, +5% CDR, passive) and works if you have a Raka or Lulu support as well. It was just nice having the "I need a fuckton of MR? Better get FoN" Item that worked for everyone. On November 26 2012 03:07 Chiharu Harukaze wrote: Most AP damage is burst damage which means that HP is just as useful as MRes (which is why there's only one item that gives MR and HP, and thanks to spellshield it's had to be nerfed mutiple times). If you're like Olaf or something, just stacking HP works alright. A raw Negatron itself is also not bad. Could always just Negatron stack if you have the inventory slots. As an AD Carry Mercurial is still nice and having to get Clasp into Mercurial still works out alright (although suppression still a problem). Still, the most health you're getting out of any one MR item is 400 on Runic Bulwark or 300 on Banshee's. Bulwark is only really a buy for one person on the team (since you can't Aegis stack anymore), and I still feel Banshee's is pretty situational based on enemy team comp. But yeah, it's not out of the norm to get a Negatron item and then a Giant's Belt (or a GBelt item and a Negatron)/ | ||
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Chiharu Harukaze
12112 Posts
My baaaad. Ok. Only one high-tier MRes+HP item lol. On November 26 2012 03:22 BlackPaladin wrote: x_x why do I remember them changing it to true damage at one point? :s Imanidiot.jpg Ah, thanks monte. I was looking at the wiki for patch notes and was like wtf lol Also the statik shiv vs PD seems silly to me. PD is still the go to choice for ranged AD carries, and for bruisers who actually want one or the other (which are few and far between) you'd want the ignore unit collision more than the 100 magic damage to 4 targets every so often. Creep blocking is like a melee's worst nightmare. Might be geared towards bruisers with dash moves perhaps (or Shaco or something). | ||
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thenexusp
United States3721 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35172 Posts
On November 26 2012 04:24 Chiharu Harukaze wrote: My baaaad. Ok. Only one high-tier MRes+HP item lol. Aegis is getting an upgrade. 400HP, 20 Armor, 30 MR Aura: 10 armor, 30mr, 10hp/5sec | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On November 26 2012 03:22 BlackPaladin wrote: x_x why do I remember them changing it to true damage at one point? :s Imanidiot.jpg Ah, thanks monte. I was looking at the wiki for patch notes and was like wtf lol Also the statik shiv vs PD seems silly to me. PD is still the go to choice for ranged AD carries, and for bruisers who actually want one or the other (which are few and far between) you'd want the ignore unit collision more than the 100 magic damage to 4 targets every so often. Creep blocking is like a melee's worst nightmare. The only people I can see Shiv being useful on is like Hecarim (who already has the collision ignore) or an AS splitpusher like Nidalee or maybe Shaco. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On November 26 2012 04:35 Gahlo wrote: Aegis is getting an upgrade. 400HP, 20 Armor, 30 MR Aura: 10 armor, 30mr, 10hp/5sec The aura doesn't stack with itself does it? You don't get 60 MR for holding? | ||
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Gahlo
United States35172 Posts
On November 26 2012 04:41 Requizen wrote: The aura doesn't stack with itself does it? You don't get 60 MR for holding? Wouldn't know, whenever I try to log in I'm 7kish in line and when the eta refreshes I have a longer wait to go. It says all nearby allies, but so does Aegis and that stacks. | ||
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Nos-
Canada12016 Posts
On November 26 2012 04:41 Requizen wrote: The aura doesn't stack with itself does it? You don't get 60 MR for holding? Not anymore | ||
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
On November 26 2012 04:40 Requizen wrote: The only people I can see Shiv being useful on is like Hecarim (who already has the collision ignore) or an AS splitpusher like Nidalee or maybe Shaco. The big advantage of Shiv is that it builds out of Avarice Blade. It's innately cheaper than Phantom Dancer to begin with, but combined with the 4-8gp10 you get out of Avarice the effective cost goes way down unless you're in a huge rush. The proc also goes off constantly if you're fighting on the move (practically every other auto-attack), so it has a lot more going for it than it first seems. Bruisers aren't going to be inclined to rush Phantom Dancer anyway since they need defenses first, so Statikk Shiv is fairly well aligned with their needs. | ||
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
Still, I guess we'll see once it's actually included. It could be a stupid worthwhile build on my GP, of course. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On November 26 2012 05:07 Requizen wrote: Hm, in that regard, is it really better than getting Atma's (which now builds out of Avarice and gives you defenses in the form of Armor) or straight up just selling it for a better item once mid/late game rolls around? Plus, innately cheaper by 300g, which yes is further mitigated by the gp10 and extra gold passive, but still not a huge difference. Still, I guess we'll see once it's actually included. It could be a stupid worthwhile build on my GP, of course. Riot changed the question of "Should I get gp10 items?" from s2, to "WHICH Gp10 item should I get?" in s3. lol, Riot makes me laugh a little. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On November 26 2012 05:14 wei2coolman wrote: Riot changed the question of "Should I get gp10 items?" from s2, to "WHICH Gp10 item should I get?" in s3. lol, Riot makes me laugh a little. With the new last-hitting gold passive on Avarice, I think we'll see it on more than a couple ADs. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On November 26 2012 01:58 Leonite7 wrote: The amount of people who hate if you first pick top or mid is mind-boggling, player skill is far more important than what match up you get. I kinda agree, but the real problem is like a bunch of people who firstpick top/mid pick a champ with really tough matchups. Its never like Ori, Morg, Olaf, Irelia firstpick, its always like Kat (not really terrible), Morde, or Teemo. I generally prefer FP picking a solo lane (because allegedly they are the best player), so long as they aren't going to pick something that is a really hard matchup vs. some of the most popular picks. | ||
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