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Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
November 22 2012 16:07 GMT
#3201
On November 22 2012 20:11 TheYango wrote:
The thing is, the game more or less already has to send delayed obs data anyway for spectator mode. Isn't this how lolreplay works now anyway?


It is. The lack of "we need replays!" fervor is probably the result of us effectively having them through LoLReplay. Once they started working with spectator mode, the only thing Riot can really add is a built-in interface. Most of the reasons people really clamored for them (we need them to grow eSports/so I can pretend to be Day9!) are fulfilled.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-22 16:15:58
November 22 2012 16:15 GMT
#3202
Wrong thread, oops
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Spaiku
Profile Joined July 2012
Spain1114 Posts
November 22 2012 16:21 GMT
#3203
How should i build Olaf top lane? Right now i'm using Philo - HoG - ( d shield if having a hard time) - warmogs - randuins - negatron - shurelya.

I was watching the top laner of dignitas and he got a really early GA. Also how good is phage-frozen of him? i imagine if you're hitting your axes you shouldn't need it, right?
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
November 22 2012 16:28 GMT
#3204
On November 23 2012 01:21 Yagami wrote:
How should i build Olaf top lane? Right now i'm using Philo - HoG - ( d shield if having a hard time) - warmogs - randuins - negatron - shurelya.

I was watching the top laner of dignitas and he got a really early GA. Also how good is phage-frozen of him? i imagine if you're hitting your axes you shouldn't need it, right?

There's no strict "build" order for olaf, it's really matchup dependent. Early shurelya's is a nice key item, but depending on how your team is doing you can afford to get it later as opposed to rushing it. Randuins is another great item, you can usually delay this one til around lategame.

Other big items include aotl, hexdrinker (maw), fon, sunfire cape, frzn heart, frozen mallet, etc etc. There's tons of builds that make olaf effective, it's differs based on matches.
liftlift > tsm
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
November 22 2012 16:28 GMT
#3205
On November 23 2012 01:21 Yagami wrote:
How should i build Olaf top lane? Right now i'm using Philo - HoG - ( d shield if having a hard time) - warmogs - randuins - negatron - shurelya.

I was watching the top laner of dignitas and he got a really early GA. Also how good is phage-frozen of him? i imagine if you're hitting your axes you shouldn't need it, right?


People mostly get mallet because of the stats on Olaf, I think. HP and AD. But yeah, warmogs is a common first item, aswell as items that give CDR (Glacial shroud/Kindlegem). Hexdrinker is built quite a bit aswell due to his damage already scaling with how low HP he gets. In the end it all depends on your lane opponent and his team. Olaf can push well on his own already, so generally Sunfire Cape isn't necessary.
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arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
November 22 2012 16:38 GMT
#3206
On November 23 2012 00:19 koreasilver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2012 19:34 arb wrote:
are people really using pay to win in league?

jesus christ

People will whine about anything.

Guess so, using the term "Pay to Win" in League is like, the dumbest thing ive ever fucking seen
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11658 Posts
November 22 2012 16:44 GMT
#3207
On November 23 2012 01:38 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 00:19 koreasilver wrote:
On November 22 2012 19:34 arb wrote:
are people really using pay to win in league?

jesus christ

People will whine about anything.

Guess so, using the term "Pay to Win" in League is like, the dumbest thing ive ever fucking seen


You obviously don't spend a lot of time on the internet if that is the dumbest thing you have ever seen.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
November 22 2012 17:13 GMT
#3208
On November 23 2012 01:38 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 00:19 koreasilver wrote:
On November 22 2012 19:34 arb wrote:
are people really using pay to win in league?

jesus christ

People will whine about anything.

Guess so, using the term "Pay to Win" in League is like, the dumbest thing ive ever fucking seen

pros agree vlad is far easier to play with his legendary skin than any other because of the animation changes, and firefrost annie is much more difficult to notice when her stun is up. it DOES provide an advantage, whether it's enough to win depends on how close the game would be anyway.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
November 22 2012 17:15 GMT
#3209
I dunno, I just click on Annie most of the time and her passive's icon tells me if it's up or not. During ganks and/or teamfights where I'll have something else selected and won't bother switch until things set down I'll just assume it's always up.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
November 22 2012 17:16 GMT
#3210
Yeah that's the point, if you assume it's always up sometimes you can lose a fight by being too timid. it's just an advantage, not a large one, but a slight advantage for having a skin is a slight advantage.
BlueSpace
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2182 Posts
November 22 2012 17:21 GMT
#3211
On November 23 2012 02:13 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 01:38 arb wrote:
On November 23 2012 00:19 koreasilver wrote:
On November 22 2012 19:34 arb wrote:
are people really using pay to win in league?

jesus christ

People will whine about anything.

Guess so, using the term "Pay to Win" in League is like, the dumbest thing ive ever fucking seen

pros agree vlad is far easier to play with his legendary skin than any other because of the animation changes, and firefrost annie is much more difficult to notice when her stun is up. it DOES provide an advantage, whether it's enough to win depends on how close the game would be anyway.

You could argue that way but I would rather call it a bug, because all the other skins do not provide any advantage whatsoever. So saying "Pay to Win" sounds like as if Riot implements on purpose features into their skins to provide advantages, which is not true. If pros agree on it, Riot should fix these specific skins though.
Probe1: "Because people are opinionated and love to share their thoughts. Then they read someone else agree with them and get their opinion confused with fact."
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
November 22 2012 17:23 GMT
#3212
On November 23 2012 01:38 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 00:19 koreasilver wrote:
On November 22 2012 19:34 arb wrote:
are people really using pay to win in league?

jesus christ

People will whine about anything.

Guess so, using the term "Pay to Win" in League is like, the dumbest thing ive ever fucking seen


It's just Sufficiency whining about it for now, hopefully he's the only one. Besides he whines about a lot of shit so I'd disregard it.
Hey! How you doin'?
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
November 22 2012 17:28 GMT
#3213
You have these magical things in your head that allow you to see things on your computer screen. I suggest using them to help you notice details, such as animations, when you play LoL.

Happy thanksgiving to all american TLers.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
November 22 2012 17:29 GMT
#3214
Anyone else having issues with a high queue-time on EU West?
hi
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
November 22 2012 17:29 GMT
#3215
On November 23 2012 02:28 BlackPaladin wrote:
You have these magical things in your head that allow you to see things on your computer screen. I suggest using them to help you notice details, such as animations, when you play LoL.

Happy thanksgiving to all american TLers.

Happy Thanksgiving. Lol Canadians.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-22 17:33:38
November 22 2012 17:33 GMT
#3216
On November 23 2012 02:29 Sponkz wrote:
Anyone else having issues with a high queue-time on EU West?

Yup.

EUNE! EUNE!
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
November 22 2012 17:57 GMT
#3217
I whine about just every skin that comes out. Chill.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
November 22 2012 18:08 GMT
#3218
On November 23 2012 02:33 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 02:29 Sponkz wrote:
Anyone else having issues with a high queue-time on EU West?

Yup.

EUNE! EUNE!

no
also soloq is disabled sponkz if thats wat u meant
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
November 22 2012 18:11 GMT
#3219
Where do I ask about getting permabanned?
It's your boy Guzma!
Dusty
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3359 Posts
November 22 2012 18:13 GMT
#3220
Vlad's Legendary definitely does have a better autoattack animation, it has noticeably less of a windup, allowing you to CS a bit more easily AND you can AA harass much more easily, especially since you can move into a brush/away from creeps and not take aggro.
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