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Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
November 21 2012 22:25 GMT
#3021
I don't understand how to salvage a lost lane. For example I play support most of the time, and when my lane is lost or losing for whatever reason (my own mistakes, jungler intervention, whatever), I don't really know how to stop the situation from spiralling out of control or how to make the best out of the situation. This is true for my ad as well, where if I lose lane and am down CS/items, I don't know how to put myself back into a decent position.
Bronze player stuck in platinum
Dusty
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3359 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-21 22:39:07
November 21 2012 22:36 GMT
#3022
On November 22 2012 07:03 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2012 07:01 BlackPaladin wrote:
On November 22 2012 06:51 Kouda wrote:
Ugh. Exhaust is so fucking stupid. -_-


Hahaha. The best is when the enemy team has 3, and all 3 are used on you. Every. Single. Time. #toplanerproblems

The true zen is finding peace in the fact that you eat every CC so your AD carry can win the game for you.


Except when that AD carry only has an IEdge at 30 minutes :D

http://eune.leagueoflegends.com/news/beyond-space-and-time-eternum-nocturne-watches

oh god legendary nocturne skin
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-21 22:48:19
November 21 2012 22:47 GMT
#3023
On November 22 2012 07:25 Nos- wrote:
I don't understand how to salvage a lost lane. For example I play support most of the time, and when my lane is lost or losing for whatever reason (my own mistakes, jungler intervention, whatever), I don't really know how to stop the situation from spiralling out of control or how to make the best out of the situation. This is true for my ad as well, where if I lose lane and am down CS/items, I don't know how to put myself back into a decent position.

If you're blue side you fall back from lane and farm golems til lane pushes in a position where you can farm safely,wait for the other team to overextend or do something stupid.
If you're purple side you are fucked.
Cackle™
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
November 21 2012 22:49 GMT
#3024
inb4 3250 RP Noc skin.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
samthesaluki
Profile Joined November 2010
914 Posts
November 21 2012 22:53 GMT
#3025
i mained noct for ages im gtting it whatever price! even though i rarely play him now
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
November 21 2012 22:53 GMT
#3026
On November 22 2012 07:36 Dusty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2012 07:03 Requizen wrote:
On November 22 2012 07:01 BlackPaladin wrote:
On November 22 2012 06:51 Kouda wrote:
Ugh. Exhaust is so fucking stupid. -_-


Hahaha. The best is when the enemy team has 3, and all 3 are used on you. Every. Single. Time. #toplanerproblems

The true zen is finding peace in the fact that you eat every CC so your AD carry can win the game for you.


Except when that AD carry only has an IEdge at 30 minutes :D

http://eune.leagueoflegends.com/news/beyond-space-and-time-eternum-nocturne-watches

oh god legendary nocturne skin


Fuck.

And I wanted to go out this weekend QQ
Porouscloud - NA LoL
TSBspartacus
Profile Joined October 2011
England1046 Posts
November 21 2012 22:57 GMT
#3027
On November 22 2012 07:53 samthesaluki wrote:
i mained noct for ages im gtting it whatever price! even though i rarely play him now

Same, going to have to start jungling with him more. Hopefully he'll do well in the new jungle, I think he should be decent still.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17294 Posts
November 21 2012 22:59 GMT
#3028
Cop is Curse's strongest player, easily. He's the only one I'd ever want for a team. That said, there are so many strong ADs right now that if you had your choice of any AD to make a team he wouldn't even rank in the top 5 worldwide.
twitch.tv/cratonz
nojitosunrise
Profile Joined August 2011
United States6188 Posts
November 21 2012 23:03 GMT
#3029
no black friday sale this year. (expect a big sale in Jan though)
Koenig99
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada904 Posts
November 21 2012 23:19 GMT
#3030
Did I just see Marn on HSGG's webcam?
Praetorial
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States4241 Posts
November 21 2012 23:21 GMT
#3031
Hotshot at 1831 ELO.

At least he and Regi can queue and still have the same ELO opponents now.
FOR GREAT JUSTICE! Bans for the ban gods!
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
November 21 2012 23:24 GMT
#3032
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=31679507#31679507


Yay waiting for this for months now.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
November 21 2012 23:25 GMT
#3033
should i buy xinzhao or udyr jungle?!

i'm thinking xin because i'm a huge diamondprox stan
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11922 Posts
November 21 2012 23:26 GMT
#3034
On November 22 2012 07:25 Nos- wrote:
I don't understand how to salvage a lost lane. For example I play support most of the time, and when my lane is lost or losing for whatever reason (my own mistakes, jungler intervention, whatever), I don't really know how to stop the situation from spiralling out of control or how to make the best out of the situation. This is true for my ad as well, where if I lose lane and am down CS/items, I don't know how to put myself back into a decent position.


It very much depends on what level you play at. From my experience up until ~1800 every single AD pushes, always, as hard as he can. Thus, it does not matter if you lose lane as long as you don't lose it hard enough for them to dive you, because you can always just farm under your turret. As long as you can farm under your turret, just stay back and do exactly that. Get a few pots, try to not eat too much harass, and just farm it out. Maybe ward tribush if you fear a dive incoming. Farm under turret, avoid fights where you are an equal amount of people as the enemy, and hope that a gank or dragon fight goes your way. Pretty often they get impatient and try to dive you nonetheless. If they get too greedy, this can be a good way to come back into the game.

If you are mid, it depends on the matchup, but you can usually still easily farm, you just need to be absurdly careful when the enemy leaves lane, because if you meet them alone in the wilderness, you are toast.

If you are toplane, you are fucked.
Dusty
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3359 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-21 23:30:00
November 21 2012 23:29 GMT
#3035
"All accounts which are level 5 or below and have not played a game in 2012 will lose their summoner name"

http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/26721422

Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
November 21 2012 23:31 GMT
#3036
On November 22 2012 07:25 Nos- wrote:
I don't understand how to salvage a lost lane. For example I play support most of the time, and when my lane is lost or losing for whatever reason (my own mistakes, jungler intervention, whatever), I don't really know how to stop the situation from spiralling out of control or how to make the best out of the situation. This is true for my ad as well, where if I lose lane and am down CS/items, I don't know how to put myself back into a decent position.


Not dying is probably a good start.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
November 21 2012 23:37 GMT
#3037
On November 22 2012 08:29 Dusty wrote:
"All accounts which are level 5 or below and have not played a game in 2012 will lose their summoner name"

http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/26721422



just checked one i'm looking for, gonna become available, THE MERGING WILL BE COMPLETE
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
wussleeQ
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States3130 Posts
November 21 2012 23:37 GMT
#3038
On November 22 2012 08:29 Dusty wrote:
"All accounts which are level 5 or below and have not played a game in 2012 will lose their summoner name"

http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/26721422


there's always next year's!
BW -> League -> CSGO
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
November 21 2012 23:45 GMT
#3039
On November 22 2012 06:42 Xacez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2012 06:39 Sufficiency wrote:
On November 22 2012 05:44 cLutZ wrote:
On November 22 2012 05:11 Sufficiency wrote:
On November 22 2012 05:02 wei2coolman wrote:
On November 22 2012 04:16 OutlaW- wrote:
No, it's not hard to know. He's bad. I think so and so do many, many streamers, who frequently comment and laugh about it.
While your argument is correct to an extent, it's not entirely true. A good AD with a bad support won't be able to win his lane if he's playing against an adc who has a good support (this relies on the champions but is mostly true), but I never said that Cop is bad because he loses lane. Even if it were Elementz' fault that he lost lane (which I dare you to give me an example of where this is true because I've never seen it happen before), Cop should never, ever die. Losing lane means being behind on cs, dying is his own fault.
You can also look at aphromoo who plays tons of games with random supports and manages to win lane every single time. I guess this is going against my point at the top but it shows that you can overcome the badness of your support with skill.
Cop is bad in laning phase and I've never seen him carry a game, largely because of his mediocre positioning and game sense.

Cop doesn't always buy phage, but when he does, he always procs it on the first shot.

As far as CRS line up is concerned, bot lane wasn't really their problem. Their initial troubles was from bad top lane, and fairly limited mid lane (westrice, and nyjacky's small champ pool). With the replacement of westrice w/ voyboy, and the huge improvement by nyjacky, a lot of their main weaknesses was shored up. Cop and Elementz didn't always win lane, but they rarely got stomped that hard as well. Sure, cop's no DL, or Aphro, but is he competitive with other AD carries in the scene? especially in NA and EU? Yes, if anything he's probably above average AD carry in NA+EU scene. Elementz has shown a huge improvement in play, Chau-level support he's not, but I'd argue his champ pool and skills also mark up with the average NA+EU scene. The main problem with CRS isn't any "weaknesses", but it's more the lack of "Strengths". Yes, nyjacky is arguably the best mid NA right now, but he's no froggen. Voyboy is pretty fucking dominant in a top 1v1 island, but he's no maknoon. What they need is a player that can CARRY. HARD. Nyjacky is the closest thing they have to that, but as much as I love the dude, he's not carrying hard enough in majority of the games.


The same can be said about Dignitas then. It's not like they have any kind of particularly "strength".


Dig's strength has been interesting lane choices and team synergy. Other teams have discovered this concept with TSM's Vlad/Kennen or Karthus/Kayle, CLG's Split+Poke, etc.

Dig hasn't been interesting since "In QTPIE we trust" protect the kog.


You mean like crumbz/IWD initiating when no one else was around.

I miss Jatt


I should have said, "had been their strength."

On November 22 2012 08:37 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2012 08:29 Dusty wrote:
"All accounts which are level 5 or below and have not played a game in 2012 will lose their summoner name"

http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/26721422



just checked one i'm looking for, gonna become available, THE MERGING WILL BE COMPLETE


http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/19247095#history

BLAST
Freeeeeeedom
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
November 21 2012 23:52 GMT
#3040
On November 22 2012 08:31 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2012 07:25 Nos- wrote:
I don't understand how to salvage a lost lane. For example I play support most of the time, and when my lane is lost or losing for whatever reason (my own mistakes, jungler intervention, whatever), I don't really know how to stop the situation from spiralling out of control or how to make the best out of the situation. This is true for my ad as well, where if I lose lane and am down CS/items, I don't know how to put myself back into a decent position.


Not dying is probably a good start.


Just to echo this people don't realise that often you don't have to try make any "huge plays" to get back into the game. Merely be patient and try to capitalize on the opponents mistakes. People aren't professional players and will make those mistakes, if you just wait for them most of the time you can get back into it.
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