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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
October 19 2012 22:03 GMT
#1101
On October 20 2012 06:59 Parnage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2012 05:23 AsnSensation wrote:
Rocketeer Tristana in store now!


I am 8 rp short for her.. I wasn't expecting her so soon..


Draw a picture
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AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
October 19 2012 22:04 GMT
#1102
Just played a tristana game after a veery long time and I might be imagining things but the autoattack animation and skill animations on rocketeer trist feel really smooth, unfortunately I got also reminded why nobody plays trist anymore

lvl 2-3 i could trade ok-ish but during the midgame I could literally do 0 against the enemy vayne blitz lane and could only ask my supp Ali to combo them in case I get grabbed and just farm, fortunately my team played good and I got decently fed and damn reaching 30 minutes with tristana having 2-3 core items on lvl 16-18 is the most satisfying feeling ever, turn on Q shoot things down from 100000range jump away if someone actually manages to close the cap.

Overall Vayne and Kog feel safer to pick though among the 3 late hypercarries because they are actually useful midgame.
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
October 19 2012 22:10 GMT
#1103
Anybody knows where I can see the new items tested on PBE right now ?

Also congratz neo for the awesome icone & the promotion.
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23342 Posts
October 19 2012 22:14 GMT
#1104
On October 20 2012 06:47 Alaric wrote:
0K Jayce is fucking utterly retarded, level 5 Q for 300+ damage in my face. He has mercs, HoG, vamp scepter, NMM. He's got like no items at all for damage and burst me that hard? And add on top of that his scaling. Such a bullshit champ, and Riot nerfs... his mana. Yay, gj.

I don't understand their logic of balancing. :/


Sorry but all your recent posts seem to be you getting raped top lane and then complaining about the opposing champion.
Every champ seems OP when they're ahead.

Malphite doesnt get that destroyed by shen because you dont need to stay in q range for that long. Sure shen has an advantage but if you get a gank and kill him with your level 6 suddenly you just smack him because once he uses his Q and ki strike his only damage is autos which get destroyed by your E so suddenly you can zone him AND stop him from ulting. Shen is a snowbally hero in that kind of way actually.
Run the right rune page with regen and magic resist and you'll probably be behind a bit in cs if jungler never helps but it's laneable. Just know when to play passive instead of just assuming you get destroyed because if you both sit there in the creep line you lose.

Jayce q's can be dodged.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-19 22:33:31
October 19 2012 22:21 GMT
#1105
On October 20 2012 07:14 Slayer91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2012 06:47 Alaric wrote:
0K Jayce is fucking utterly retarded, level 5 Q for 300+ damage in my face. He has mercs, HoG, vamp scepter, NMM. He's got like no items at all for damage and burst me that hard? And add on top of that his scaling. Such a bullshit champ, and Riot nerfs... his mana. Yay, gj.

I don't understand their logic of balancing. :/


Sorry but all your recent posts seem to be you getting raped top lane and then complaining about the opposing champion.
Every champ seems OP when they're ahead.

Malphite doesnt get that destroyed by shen because you dont need to stay in q range for that long. Sure shen has an advantage but if you get a gank and kill him with your level 6 suddenly you just smack him because once he uses his Q and ki strike his only damage is autos which get destroyed by your E so suddenly you can zone him AND stop him from ulting. Shen is a snowbally hero in that kind of way actually.
Run the right rune page with regen and magic resist and you'll probably be behind a bit in cs if jungler never helps but it's laneable. Just know when to play passive instead of just assuming you get destroyed because if you both sit there in the creep line you lose.

Jayce q's can be dodged.

Hey, I complain a lot about Anivia too! Maybe I should explain that sometimes I talk about my experience and ask confirmation (like Malph vs Shen, I didn't know the match-up, the guy was platinium, I got raped but it seemed to me that Shen was strong against Malph, so I talked about it as it seems a good thing to know to me, and I wanted to be sure).
What happened is that we didn't have jungle pressure from any jungler, and none in our team knew about how the match-up normally plays. I found I was outfarmed because I had to stand out o his Q range to have my passive come back up, so he could zone me off cs for that time (if I don't, his cd is shorter so he'll keep my passive down). I wasn't whining about that.

I wasn't playing top tho, I was jungling, the opposing top was beating Jayce soundly, and then a 300 Q in my face during a fight, with him having no damage items at all. ôo
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-19 22:30:36
October 19 2012 22:30 GMT
#1106
On October 20 2012 06:30 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2012 06:26 thenexusp wrote:
On October 20 2012 05:27 Tooplark wrote:
So, as far as Great Buys on Carries go
If you're getting dived by phys bruisers, try picking up a Warden's Mail. It helps 1v1 the enemy carry, it helps kite bruisers, it helps keep you alive against phys burst, and it's just 1350 gold. Not a bad thing to grab between IE/Zeal and PD.


It's funny because carries are always like "what my team should do is peel for me when I get dived" and never buy defense early, but when you're not on a pro team you gotta do what will make you win (this includes buying wards if your support refuses to or only buys 1 at a time)


But you know if you buy early defenses, your team will be all "omg chain vest adc noob" because you're not 2 shotting things in the mid game. Because people are like that.

Who the fuck needs wardens mail when you're Ez and you buy phage first. You can kite midgame all day long npnp.
liftlift > tsm
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
October 19 2012 22:31 GMT
#1107
On October 20 2012 06:47 Alaric wrote:
0K Jayce is fucking utterly retarded, level 5 Q for 300+ damage in my face. He has mercs, HoG, vamp scepter, NMM. He's got like no items at all for damage and burst me that hard? And add on top of that his scaling. Such a bullshit champ, and Riot nerfs... his mana. Yay, gj.

I don't understand their logic of balancing. :/


after the next patch both his Es will cost mana, which was his only real problem... and they're nerfing the damage on his bash.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11951 Posts
October 19 2012 22:34 GMT
#1108
On October 20 2012 07:30 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2012 06:30 Requizen wrote:
On October 20 2012 06:26 thenexusp wrote:
On October 20 2012 05:27 Tooplark wrote:
So, as far as Great Buys on Carries go
If you're getting dived by phys bruisers, try picking up a Warden's Mail. It helps 1v1 the enemy carry, it helps kite bruisers, it helps keep you alive against phys burst, and it's just 1350 gold. Not a bad thing to grab between IE/Zeal and PD.


It's funny because carries are always like "what my team should do is peel for me when I get dived" and never buy defense early, but when you're not on a pro team you gotta do what will make you win (this includes buying wards if your support refuses to or only buys 1 at a time)


But you know if you buy early defenses, your team will be all "omg chain vest adc noob" because you're not 2 shotting things in the mid game. Because people are like that.

Who the fuck needs wardens mail when you're Ez and you buy phage first. You can kite midgame all day long npnp.


I have noticed that enemy ez´s have a 100% procchance on phage. Literally every single time i run at an ez, he qs me once, and i get slowed by it.
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
October 19 2012 22:36 GMT
#1109
On October 20 2012 07:34 Simberto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2012 07:30 wei2coolman wrote:
On October 20 2012 06:30 Requizen wrote:
On October 20 2012 06:26 thenexusp wrote:
On October 20 2012 05:27 Tooplark wrote:
So, as far as Great Buys on Carries go
If you're getting dived by phys bruisers, try picking up a Warden's Mail. It helps 1v1 the enemy carry, it helps kite bruisers, it helps keep you alive against phys burst, and it's just 1350 gold. Not a bad thing to grab between IE/Zeal and PD.


It's funny because carries are always like "what my team should do is peel for me when I get dived" and never buy defense early, but when you're not on a pro team you gotta do what will make you win (this includes buying wards if your support refuses to or only buys 1 at a time)


But you know if you buy early defenses, your team will be all "omg chain vest adc noob" because you're not 2 shotting things in the mid game. Because people are like that.

Who the fuck needs wardens mail when you're Ez and you buy phage first. You can kite midgame all day long npnp.


I have noticed that enemy ez´s have a 100% procchance on phage. Literally every single time i run at an ez, he qs me once, and i get slowed by it.

It's the baddie tax. Only works on baddies.
IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
October 19 2012 22:47 GMT
#1110
God I hate the new katarina. I see one in 95% of my games because she's easy and she does insanely op damage :/
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
October 19 2012 22:49 GMT
#1111
Ok, enough QQ in General Discussion for one day...
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
GranDim
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Canada1214 Posts
October 19 2012 22:51 GMT
#1112
On October 20 2012 07:36 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2012 07:34 Simberto wrote:
On October 20 2012 07:30 wei2coolman wrote:
On October 20 2012 06:30 Requizen wrote:
On October 20 2012 06:26 thenexusp wrote:
On October 20 2012 05:27 Tooplark wrote:
So, as far as Great Buys on Carries go
If you're getting dived by phys bruisers, try picking up a Warden's Mail. It helps 1v1 the enemy carry, it helps kite bruisers, it helps keep you alive against phys burst, and it's just 1350 gold. Not a bad thing to grab between IE/Zeal and PD.


It's funny because carries are always like "what my team should do is peel for me when I get dived" and never buy defense early, but when you're not on a pro team you gotta do what will make you win (this includes buying wards if your support refuses to or only buys 1 at a time)


But you know if you buy early defenses, your team will be all "omg chain vest adc noob" because you're not 2 shotting things in the mid game. Because people are like that.

Who the fuck needs wardens mail when you're Ez and you buy phage first. You can kite midgame all day long npnp.


I have noticed that enemy ez´s have a 100% procchance on phage. Literally every single time i run at an ez, he qs me once, and i get slowed by it.

It's the baddie tax. Only works on baddies.


Really hoping for a change to phage S3 slow proc is a lot more random win/lose than dodge was.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
October 19 2012 22:51 GMT
#1113
On October 20 2012 07:34 Simberto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2012 07:30 wei2coolman wrote:
On October 20 2012 06:30 Requizen wrote:
On October 20 2012 06:26 thenexusp wrote:
On October 20 2012 05:27 Tooplark wrote:
So, as far as Great Buys on Carries go
If you're getting dived by phys bruisers, try picking up a Warden's Mail. It helps 1v1 the enemy carry, it helps kite bruisers, it helps keep you alive against phys burst, and it's just 1350 gold. Not a bad thing to grab between IE/Zeal and PD.


It's funny because carries are always like "what my team should do is peel for me when I get dived" and never buy defense early, but when you're not on a pro team you gotta do what will make you win (this includes buying wards if your support refuses to or only buys 1 at a time)


But you know if you buy early defenses, your team will be all "omg chain vest adc noob" because you're not 2 shotting things in the mid game. Because people are like that.

Who the fuck needs wardens mail when you're Ez and you buy phage first. You can kite midgame all day long npnp.


I have noticed that enemy ez´s have a 100% procchance on phage. Literally every single time i run at an ez, he qs me once, and i get slowed by it.

The proc chance if fairly high, and considering midgame fights usually start off on the back of some hard CC play, Ez's usually get 3-4 shots on you before you can start charging on you, you're bound to get phage proc'd on.
liftlift > tsm
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
October 19 2012 22:54 GMT
#1114
On October 20 2012 07:47 IMoperator wrote:
God I hate the new katarina. I see one in 95% of my games because she's easy and she does insanely op damage :/

When I spectate people (generally below 1500) it seems that a lot of Kat who don't get immediatly fed in lane tend to suicide during skirmishes, because they overestimate their damage of think "they're low, I can kill this one they I'll just 100-0 the other 2 thanks to the reset", then they try to ult, and get bursted down.
I mean, I know it tends to happen to assassins a lot when they fall behind, but I don't see Akali(s) or Diana(s) dive like that and just get bursted by the enemy team, seems to be a Katarina thing.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-19 23:02:09
October 19 2012 22:56 GMT
#1115
It's the reset man. It's addictive, like crack or meth or hookers
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
October 19 2012 22:59 GMT
#1116
*runs back to the LoL forum*



oh my, the SC2 forum is like a warzone with the recent "league is stealing all the mojo" news going around.
So much misinformation, too. Apparently LoL is only big in asian countries without income, has streams in its client, forces sponsors and teams to only play LoL, .... etc.

guess im in hiding here for a while.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
October 19 2012 23:00 GMT
#1117
On October 20 2012 07:59 LaNague wrote:
*runs back to the LoL forum*



oh my, the SC2 forum is like a warzone with the recent "league is stealing all the mojo" news going around.
So much misinformation, too. Apparently LoL is only big in asian countries without income, has streams in its client, forces sponsors and teams to only play LoL, .... etc.

guess im in hiding here for a while.

Wait, Korea is an asian country without income now?

???
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
October 19 2012 23:00 GMT
#1118
On October 20 2012 07:59 LaNague wrote:
*runs back to the LoL forum*



oh my, the SC2 forum is like a warzone with the recent "league is stealing all the mojo" news going around.
So much misinformation, too. Apparently LoL is only big in asian countries without income, has streams in its client, forces sponsors and teams to only play LoL, .... etc.

guess im in hiding here for a while.


There's some mad jelly out there.

Happy birthday tomorrow. :3
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
October 19 2012 23:01 GMT
#1119
On October 20 2012 08:00 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2012 07:59 LaNague wrote:
*runs back to the LoL forum*



oh my, the SC2 forum is like a warzone with the recent "league is stealing all the mojo" news going around.
So much misinformation, too. Apparently LoL is only big in asian countries without income, has streams in its client, forces sponsors and teams to only play LoL, .... etc.

guess im in hiding here for a while.

Wait, Korea is an asian country without income now?

???


No, I think they mean China.

huehuehue
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
October 19 2012 23:02 GMT
#1120
Well, LoL is much bigger in Korea than China.

LoL and DotA 2 in China still have to contend with DotA 1, which is still very much the enormous elephant in the room.
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