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GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-18 00:01:12
October 17 2012 23:58 GMT
#221
Trying out Wu for the first time, vs a Shen. Any tips?
Edit nvm hes supporting, I'm vs Vlad
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
October 18 2012 00:03 GMT
#222
On October 18 2012 08:42 Frolossus wrote:
so about that female character design
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anyone else think that its bad that they all look relatively the same?

the way i feel about lol art is that's pretty much A+ on game clarity. The champs are all completely distinguishable, and to me that's the top priority. However every other approach to these same characters... reveals them as not so great. A lot of the art assets are just bad, especially splash art and spell icons, and from any angle except the same one the game camera uses the characters come off as kind of a bland collection of porn stars and cliches.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
October 18 2012 00:04 GMT
#223
I'd honestly like to see an attractive female champion with small breasts.

I would play that champion.
Clarity Gaming #1 Fan | Avid MTG Grinder | @VirgilSC2
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
October 18 2012 00:05 GMT
#224
On October 18 2012 09:04 VirgilSC2 wrote:
I'd honestly like to see an attractive female champion with small breasts.

I would play that champion.

irelia?
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
October 18 2012 00:05 GMT
#225
On October 18 2012 09:04 VirgilSC2 wrote:
I'd honestly like to see an attractive female champion with small breasts.

I would play that champion.


So Lux?
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
October 18 2012 00:06 GMT
#226
On October 18 2012 08:57 kainzero wrote:
i want to join the writing team! where do i sign up?

Uh. Dunno. PM me or Neo and let's talk about it. I gotta sleep now so I might not reply for a bit.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
October 18 2012 00:06 GMT
#227
Damn, I just visited my account on the lol.com official site and I was able to redeem the rewards for my smurfs FRIENDS.

Dunno how long that's been there, but it didn't work the ~month after the battlenet 2.0 Refer 2.0 change.
2500 surprising free IP for me :3

I know it's an old topic by now, but if anyone else also lost all the refs when the switch happend, you might want to check again.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
October 18 2012 00:07 GMT
#228
On October 18 2012 08:58 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Trying out Wu for the first time, vs a Shen. Any tips?
Edit nvm hes supporting, I'm vs Vlad


Do the EQ for harass. Don't get harassed yourself by max stack Tides.

You can trade well from 2 to 6. Post 7, if you haven't built a good lead, you going to have to build a ton of MR.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-18 00:10:53
October 18 2012 00:09 GMT
#229
On October 18 2012 08:47 Slayer91 wrote:
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On October 18 2012 08:41 zulu_nation8 wrote:
pretty sure if you ask anyone whos played at 2k if they think 2k is good they'll say no its trash elo, no one is good, which is exactly how I feel. Lol@ people thinking 2k+ players are worthy of giving opinions on the game, everyone is fucking bad except for the few people who actually understand the game regardless of elo.



That's silly if anyone truly understood the game they'd be the top players in the world. You can't argue that their "mechanics" are bad or something that might have been plausible in starcraft but definitely not in LoL.

Bad isn't a state that makes your opinions irrelevant, it represents an uncomplete understanding of the game and a tendency to make mistakes based on lack of awareness of the situation. This includes many aspects of the game including picks and ban phase.

However everyone shares both those problems and people have understanding in different areas therefore froggen might think azubu frost was better than TPA but Torch and most others predicted Azubu frost woudld lose yet froggen is clearly the best player here.
Look at how awful hotshot was at jungle and still is. Nobody understands everything. The game as a whole is so massively and chaotically complicated and if people really "understood the game" they wouldn't be surprised by new picks and strats.


Ok here's an example. The past 2-3 times in ranked when I've told my top laners that I can't gank for them when they're behind, only ahead, they've all lashed back at me like WTF KIND OF LOGIC IS THAT LOL SHIT JUNGLER. Of course there are exceptions to this rule but I would think people who have a basic threshold of an idea on how jungling works will understand my implied logic that, very generally, ganking for top when behind makes you the most vulnerable to counterganks and further snowballing for the enemy side, top takes the longest to kill, strong tops can 1v2 easily when ahead unlike fed mids who can always get bursted down. Top is an island that the longer the jungler spends there the less control of game he has. I obviously could've been wrong in those situations and helping top would've been the correct plays, but how am I supposed to communicate when my laner has 0 idea about what a jungler thought process is?

So then if people who are supposed to be good at this game don't know or understand the reasoning I just gave, how are they supposed to understand the logic of a pro-level jungler in a tourney game? Wouldn't it be basically like a blind person trying to watch a movie? Granted at higher elos laners will empathize with junglers more and see why you couldnt've have helped them at a certain time, but in my experience that becomes the standard only in like 2.3k+ games where people don't yell knee-jerk reaction insults at junglers. For jungling at the very least, if you don't understand what's going on, which I'm gonna be safe and say no one at 1200 does, you have no right to critique what's happening in a tourney level game, this is so painfully obvious to me. You'll have no idea why ganks turned out good/bad, whos fault it was, basically anything that's going on. Is this really not that obvious?
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
October 18 2012 00:16 GMT
#230
On October 18 2012 08:55 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
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On October 18 2012 08:53 NeoIllusions wrote:
I run off to go get a massage [...]

Don't condescend to me.



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On October 18 2012 08:53 NeoIllusions wrote:
But on a more serious note, our community is pretty damn insular if I may say so. For the most part, we know who talks legitimate theorycraft and who's just talking ideas/wants more discussion. The really, really bad posts either go the path of PrinceXizor or are secretly mocked off the boards.

afaik, I don't think we need highlight markers for "gud" posters. Our population isn't even close to warranting such an add-on.

On a side note, for Season 3, more goodies for our subforum. Obviously the main priority right now is the Worlds Write-up. Our staff also has an insane editorial about LoL coming up. Lastly, I'm hoping to revamp and shape up our champions/team list before Season 3 officially starts.

We do all this for you.
For the glory that is TeamLiquid~

I have always wondered what would happen if we suddenly got an influx of people for whatever reason and how the existing community would deal with it. My theory is that people who follow our system would be treated fine, and anyone who posts like this was Reddit would be swiftly dealt with and ridiculed.

In some ways, it's much better here than in the DotA forum simply due to the fact bad posters are quickly called out for posting bad. At the same time though, there can be personality clashes at times that can become heated. Neo has been pretty lenient with everyone (as has Chill, Beyonder, etc. when they visit), although sometimes the other external Mods and Admins take a harsher line.


Clash of opinions happen and I tend to not get involved. People can learn for themselves because hey, that's part of the fun of playing games. Copying a pro's build inch for inch is ok if all you want to do is win solo queue. But it does not help you improve as a player. You need to fucking think, even in video games.

As stated before, hivemind seriously prevails. I think 9 out of 10 times, as a subforum, we're on the same page when it comes to good ideas from the bad.

Really donk users, like Dota2 fans that come to visit just to trash LoL, those get reported and I only moderate about half of those. Majority of the time, one of the super active mods (GMarshal) gets to ban hammer before I can.

TL;DR: Season 3, I want more users to come to TL LoL.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-18 00:25:37
October 18 2012 00:19 GMT
#231
C'mon Bly it's going to be fine, don't be sad. t.t Go call me on skype if that helps <33
About this idk, what would you propose to fix this weakness of this subforum? The easiest would obviously be if everyone added themselves on TL Summoner Thread list so that you can find out who they are on LoLking asap (c'mon guys do eet) (Like, even Teutonica/Slayer91 doesn't have a post there... wtf). But other than that I really don't know.
Maybe we could write some guide on how to read this forum and how to understand advice and criticize it. But then I don't have any idea how to understand and criticize advice so someone else would have to write it LOL

edit: ^^^^ Neo
for what it's worth, I don't think just copying a cookie-cutter strategy and going deep with it is a bad way to learn. You get to play with people who understand a lot more than you and are also more consistent so you can observe more patterns more clearly.
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-18 00:19:30
October 18 2012 00:19 GMT
#232
I wish we had one admin on the LoL train.I want team icons and featured pro LoL streams on side bar:<
Cackle™
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
October 18 2012 00:23 GMT
#233
Oh, how much money I'd be willing to pay for a Dodgeball Draven skin...
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
October 18 2012 00:25 GMT
#234
On October 18 2012 09:19 Scip wrote:
C'mon Bly it's going to be fine, don't be sad. t.t Go call me on skype if that helps <33
About this idk, what would you propose to fix this weakness of this subforum? The easiest would obviously be if everyone added themselves on TL Summoner Thread list so that you can find out who they are on LoLking asap (c'mon guys do eet). But other than that I really don't know.
Maybe we could write some guide on how to read this forum and how to understand advice and criticize it. But then I don't have any idea how to understand and criticize advice so someone else would have to write it LOL

edit: ^^^^ Neo
for what it's worth, I don't think just copying a cookie-cutter strategy and going deep with it is a bad way to learn. You get to play with people who understand a lot more than you and are also more consistent so you can observe more patterns more clearly.



Bly is as emo as Craton is negative. hurr hurr analogies.
Bad posters happen, you would think that 7 years on TL would make you aware of that fact. I think for the most part, bly is a nice guy but I don't know what to do to help him in this situation.

@Scip: not a bad way to learn, sure. But you'd need to reverse engineer it find out the reason for going W max first on Irelia, instead of E (really, really old example but it's one of the times that my own initial assumption of a champ was incorrect and I tested to find out why, etc).
Most people go HoG, Wriggle's on Shy. Why? Cause saint said so?
hmm ok.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
October 18 2012 00:28 GMT
#235
On October 18 2012 09:05 barbsq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2012 09:04 VirgilSC2 wrote:
I'd honestly like to see an attractive female champion with small breasts.

I would play that champion.

irelia?

ever seen irelia's original concept art?
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

like 50% of her model was boobs
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-18 00:35:21
October 18 2012 00:33 GMT
#236
yeah, doing what pros do to the letter is fine if you actually spend time figuring out WHY you (and the pros themselves) are doing it, and decide that the pros outweigh the cons (even if your conclusions end up being wrong). That way, when someone corrects you or brings up new ideas, you can realize: 'Oh, i thought this would be better because of x,y,z, but I see that doing a,b,c shores up a lot of problems that come with xyz'. I've never advocated for following people like sheep, but at the same time I highly recommend looking and learning from what other, better players do.

On October 18 2012 09:28 Frolossus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2012 09:05 barbsq wrote:
On October 18 2012 09:04 VirgilSC2 wrote:
I'd honestly like to see an attractive female champion with small breasts.

I would play that champion.

irelia?

ever seen irelia's original concept art?
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

like 50% of her model was boobs

Lol, i remember that. And lux's was just as bad (altho in different ways). Riot managed to fix them be4 release tho X]
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
October 18 2012 00:37 GMT
#237
On October 18 2012 09:19 TheKefka wrote:
I wish we had one admin on the LoL train.I want team icons and featured pro LoL streams on side bar:<


I'm not too sure about pro LoL streams on the side bar since most of them barely interact with us in the subforum. If they want to create a TL account and apply for a stream on TL, then Neo can request to feature them (maybe).

Don't worry too much about the team icons just yet. Even Dota teams don't have them, although they are being worked on slowly.
ModeratorThe good and the wise lead quiet lives. Neo's #1 Frenemy and nightmare.
Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
October 18 2012 00:37 GMT
#238
So uh... Slooshi is the new Locodoco.

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=2689097

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[image loading]


Aaaand his twitch.

http://www.twitch.tv/slooshi

LOL.
Retvrn to Forvms
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
October 18 2012 00:39 GMT
#239
On October 18 2012 09:28 Frolossus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2012 09:05 barbsq wrote:
On October 18 2012 09:04 VirgilSC2 wrote:
I'd honestly like to see an attractive female champion with small breasts.

I would play that champion.

irelia?

ever seen irelia's original concept art?
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

like 50% of her model was boobs

lol, that's probably how they came up with the idea of floating blades in the first place. Person A: "I bet she could drop them and they'd just orbit her boobs." Person B: "... maybe we should go with that."
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
October 18 2012 00:39 GMT
#240
On October 18 2012 09:37 Chrispy wrote:
So uh... Slooshi is the new Locodoco.

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=2689097

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Aaaand his twitch.

http://www.twitch.tv/slooshi

LOL.

He's not as qt as Loco tho
A backwards poet writes inverse.
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