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On October 18 2012 08:07 WhiteDog wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2012 07:58 WirelessWaffle wrote:On October 18 2012 07:56 Sufficiency wrote:On October 18 2012 07:55 WirelessWaffle wrote:On October 18 2012 07:52 WhiteDog wrote:On October 18 2012 07:47 zulu_nation8 wrote:
i'm only annoyed by people who repeatedly post dumb shit all over, i respond to everything with as much detail as needed. I've been on this forum for 7+ years there is a time for reasoning with people and there's a time for manning up. But using your e-peen to justify yourself is a poor excuse. Just stop doing that. Did you ever saw someone saying he was a grand master or even a high master in the SC2 forum to give credit to himself ? It's ridiculous. I thought all the posts were prefaced with, "I'm in gold league" at least that's what I remember before I quit SC2 On October 18 2012 07:45 JBright wrote:On October 18 2012 07:33 barbsq wrote:On October 18 2012 07:02 zulu_nation8 wrote:
what we need on this forum is more 1100s and unranked give more advice and opinions what we need on this forum is more 2k+ players who just tell people they're wrong and contribute nothing else What we need on this forum is more 2k+ players making good guide threads for the missing champions or updating the ones we already have. Seriously though - Twitch, Fiora, Varus, Zyra, and Syndra do not have dedicated threads for discussion. Don't know about the rest, but i remembered the fiora thread http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=344873 Gold is supposed to be good? No but people would post it as their credentials then get ripped to shreds. If a person knew about iccup and logged on at least once they were basically guaranteed to be diamond or higher in sc2. Edit: More importantly, has anyone found the location for the music from the orchestra that was at the finals? Do. Want. Badly. There is a huge difference between diamond, masters, high master and grand master. Diamond is like 1100 - you just start to understand the game and your mecanics are still bad. Still, my point remain, judge the value of an argument on its logic and intelligence not on the level of the guy who makes it. Zulu's logic that only high level players can understand high level plays is flawed. Also the location you mean where it comes from ? Because it's the music you have during champion selection.
One of the announcers (deman i think?) said the music that the orchestra played would be free to download from somewhere. I don't think they've put it up yet but I really liked the music XD
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On October 18 2012 08:07 WhiteDog wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2012 07:58 WirelessWaffle wrote:On October 18 2012 07:56 Sufficiency wrote:On October 18 2012 07:55 WirelessWaffle wrote:On October 18 2012 07:52 WhiteDog wrote:On October 18 2012 07:47 zulu_nation8 wrote:
i'm only annoyed by people who repeatedly post dumb shit all over, i respond to everything with as much detail as needed. I've been on this forum for 7+ years there is a time for reasoning with people and there's a time for manning up. But using your e-peen to justify yourself is a poor excuse. Just stop doing that. Did you ever saw someone saying he was a grand master or even a high master in the SC2 forum to give credit to himself ? It's ridiculous. I thought all the posts were prefaced with, "I'm in gold league" at least that's what I remember before I quit SC2 On October 18 2012 07:45 JBright wrote:On October 18 2012 07:33 barbsq wrote:On October 18 2012 07:02 zulu_nation8 wrote:
what we need on this forum is more 1100s and unranked give more advice and opinions what we need on this forum is more 2k+ players who just tell people they're wrong and contribute nothing else What we need on this forum is more 2k+ players making good guide threads for the missing champions or updating the ones we already have. Seriously though - Twitch, Fiora, Varus, Zyra, and Syndra do not have dedicated threads for discussion. Don't know about the rest, but i remembered the fiora thread http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=344873 Gold is supposed to be good? No but people would post it as their credentials then get ripped to shreds. If a person knew about iccup and logged on at least once they were basically guaranteed to be diamond or higher in sc2. Edit: More importantly, has anyone found the location for the music from the orchestra that was at the finals? Do. Want. Badly. There is a huge difference between diamond, masters, high master and grand master (was master, far from GM). Diamond is like 1100 - you just start to understand the game and your mecanics are still bad. Still, my point remain, judge the value of an argument on its logic and intelligence not on the level of the guy who makes it. Zulu's logic that only high level players can understand high level plays is flawed. Also the location you mean where it comes from ? Because it's the music you have during champion selection.
Er, no, Diamond isn't like 1100. Last I checked the median ELO was between 1100-1200; that corresponds to somewhere middle of silver league SC2.
If Diamond means top 15%, it'd be closer to 1400 ELO.
Yeah, in terms of selectivity, going from 1100 to 1400 is something like Silver to Diamond league in SC2.
Edit: fixed numbers
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On October 18 2012 08:07 WhiteDog wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2012 07:58 WirelessWaffle wrote:On October 18 2012 07:56 Sufficiency wrote:On October 18 2012 07:55 WirelessWaffle wrote:On October 18 2012 07:52 WhiteDog wrote:On October 18 2012 07:47 zulu_nation8 wrote:
i'm only annoyed by people who repeatedly post dumb shit all over, i respond to everything with as much detail as needed. I've been on this forum for 7+ years there is a time for reasoning with people and there's a time for manning up. But using your e-peen to justify yourself is a poor excuse. Just stop doing that. Did you ever saw someone saying he was a grand master or even a high master in the SC2 forum to give credit to himself ? It's ridiculous. I thought all the posts were prefaced with, "I'm in gold league" at least that's what I remember before I quit SC2 On October 18 2012 07:45 JBright wrote:On October 18 2012 07:33 barbsq wrote:On October 18 2012 07:02 zulu_nation8 wrote:
what we need on this forum is more 1100s and unranked give more advice and opinions what we need on this forum is more 2k+ players who just tell people they're wrong and contribute nothing else What we need on this forum is more 2k+ players making good guide threads for the missing champions or updating the ones we already have. Seriously though - Twitch, Fiora, Varus, Zyra, and Syndra do not have dedicated threads for discussion. Don't know about the rest, but i remembered the fiora thread http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=344873 Gold is supposed to be good? No but people would post it as their credentials then get ripped to shreds. If a person knew about iccup and logged on at least once they were basically guaranteed to be diamond or higher in sc2. Edit: More importantly, has anyone found the location for the music from the orchestra that was at the finals? Do. Want. Badly. There is a huge difference between diamond, masters, high master and grand master (was master, far from GM). Diamond is like 1100 - you just start to understand the game and your mecanics are still bad. Still, my point remain, judge the value of an argument on its logic and intelligence not on the level of the guy who makes it. Zulu's logic that only high level players can understand high level plays is flawed. Also the location you mean where it comes from ? Because it's the music you have during champion selection.
it's the fact that the bad opinions always come from the unrankeds who post the most on this forum that's annoying. Obviously I judge every opinion in of itself first before I consider who made it. If you list 50 comments from this thread with the poster blacked out it should be pretty easy to tell which opinions are from people who are unranked and which are from people who actually kinda know what's going on. And yes only high level players can understand high level play in many situations. I don't understand 80% of jungler thought processes in pro games so unless i'm blind, it probably means someone whos played 1/10 of the games i've played probably doesn't understand it either.
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On October 18 2012 08:14 bmn wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2012 08:07 WhiteDog wrote:On October 18 2012 07:58 WirelessWaffle wrote:On October 18 2012 07:56 Sufficiency wrote:On October 18 2012 07:55 WirelessWaffle wrote:On October 18 2012 07:52 WhiteDog wrote:On October 18 2012 07:47 zulu_nation8 wrote:
i'm only annoyed by people who repeatedly post dumb shit all over, i respond to everything with as much detail as needed. I've been on this forum for 7+ years there is a time for reasoning with people and there's a time for manning up. But using your e-peen to justify yourself is a poor excuse. Just stop doing that. Did you ever saw someone saying he was a grand master or even a high master in the SC2 forum to give credit to himself ? It's ridiculous. I thought all the posts were prefaced with, "I'm in gold league" at least that's what I remember before I quit SC2 On October 18 2012 07:45 JBright wrote:On October 18 2012 07:33 barbsq wrote:On October 18 2012 07:02 zulu_nation8 wrote:
what we need on this forum is more 1100s and unranked give more advice and opinions what we need on this forum is more 2k+ players who just tell people they're wrong and contribute nothing else What we need on this forum is more 2k+ players making good guide threads for the missing champions or updating the ones we already have. Seriously though - Twitch, Fiora, Varus, Zyra, and Syndra do not have dedicated threads for discussion. Don't know about the rest, but i remembered the fiora thread http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=344873 Gold is supposed to be good? No but people would post it as their credentials then get ripped to shreds. If a person knew about iccup and logged on at least once they were basically guaranteed to be diamond or higher in sc2. Edit: More importantly, has anyone found the location for the music from the orchestra that was at the finals? Do. Want. Badly. There is a huge difference between diamond, masters, high master and grand master (was master, far from GM). Diamond is like 1100 - you just start to understand the game and your mecanics are still bad. Still, my point remain, judge the value of an argument on its logic and intelligence not on the level of the guy who makes it. Zulu's logic that only high level players can understand high level plays is flawed. Also the location you mean where it comes from ? Because it's the music you have during champion selection. Er, no, Diamond isn't like 1100. Last I checked the median ELO was between 1100-1200; that corresponds to somewhere middle of silver league SC2. If Diamond means top 15%, it'd be closer to 1300 ELO. Yeah, in terms of selectivity, going from 1100 to 1300 is something like Silver to Diamond league in SC2.
Whatever, all it means is that I'm fucking bad at LOL. 
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Okay, I play Janna, Nunu, Leona and Sona. I can't play Lulu, Taric or Alistar. Any suggestions on who I should pick up to fill out my support needs? (thank you refund option)
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On October 18 2012 08:18 Dark_Chill wrote:
Okay, I play Janna, Nunu, Leona and Sona. I can't play Lulu, Taric or Alistar. Any suggestions on who I should pick up to fill out my support needs? (thank you refund option)
Faceroll soraka I think is the only one you're missing that you should know I think.
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On October 18 2012 08:18 Dark_Chill wrote:
Okay, I play Janna, Nunu, Leona and Sona. I can't play Lulu, Taric or Alistar. Any suggestions on who I should pick up to fill out my support needs? (thank you refund option)
Taric seems like the easy support, serious, always okay and cheap in IP. It's also a good counter to blitz from my experience (just let yourself be grabbed). Alistar was great but I have a lot of problem with him now for some reason I don't really understand.
If you really can't play Taric then soraka I guess.
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On October 18 2012 08:15 zulu_nation8 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2012 08:07 WhiteDog wrote:On October 18 2012 07:58 WirelessWaffle wrote:On October 18 2012 07:56 Sufficiency wrote:On October 18 2012 07:55 WirelessWaffle wrote:On October 18 2012 07:52 WhiteDog wrote:On October 18 2012 07:47 zulu_nation8 wrote:
i'm only annoyed by people who repeatedly post dumb shit all over, i respond to everything with as much detail as needed. I've been on this forum for 7+ years there is a time for reasoning with people and there's a time for manning up. But using your e-peen to justify yourself is a poor excuse. Just stop doing that. Did you ever saw someone saying he was a grand master or even a high master in the SC2 forum to give credit to himself ? It's ridiculous. I thought all the posts were prefaced with, "I'm in gold league" at least that's what I remember before I quit SC2 On October 18 2012 07:45 JBright wrote:On October 18 2012 07:33 barbsq wrote:On October 18 2012 07:02 zulu_nation8 wrote:
what we need on this forum is more 1100s and unranked give more advice and opinions what we need on this forum is more 2k+ players who just tell people they're wrong and contribute nothing else What we need on this forum is more 2k+ players making good guide threads for the missing champions or updating the ones we already have. Seriously though - Twitch, Fiora, Varus, Zyra, and Syndra do not have dedicated threads for discussion. Don't know about the rest, but i remembered the fiora thread http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=344873 Gold is supposed to be good? No but people would post it as their credentials then get ripped to shreds. If a person knew about iccup and logged on at least once they were basically guaranteed to be diamond or higher in sc2. Edit: More importantly, has anyone found the location for the music from the orchestra that was at the finals? Do. Want. Badly. There is a huge difference between diamond, masters, high master and grand master (was master, far from GM). Diamond is like 1100 - you just start to understand the game and your mecanics are still bad. Still, my point remain, judge the value of an argument on its logic and intelligence not on the level of the guy who makes it. Zulu's logic that only high level players can understand high level plays is flawed. Also the location you mean where it comes from ? Because it's the music you have during champion selection. it's the fact that the bad opinions always come from the unrankeds who post the most on this forum that's annoying. Obviously I judge every opinion in of itself first before I consider who made it. If you list 50 comments from this thread with the poster blacked out it should be pretty easy to tell which opinions are from people who are unranked and which are from people who actually kinda know what's going on. And yes only high level players can understand high level play in many situations. I don't understand 80% of jungler thought processes in pro games so unless i'm blind, it probably means someone whos played 1/10 of the games i've played probably doesn't understand it either.
Doesn't bother me really,the majority of people know who you should and shouldn't listen to in this forum.
If the forum get's bigger I guess we could have highlighted quality posters like sc2 strategy has but until then don't see what the fuss is about,people can chime in if they want.
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On October 18 2012 08:18 Dark_Chill wrote:
Okay, I play Janna, Nunu, Leona and Sona. I can't play Lulu, Taric or Alistar. Any suggestions on who I should pick up to fill out my support needs? (thank you refund option)
How is it possible to not be able to play taric?
whatevs, Blitz is very important for soloQ. Grab ppl, carry hard.
Soraka isn't really meta atm, but she's easy as fuck to play, so you might as well.
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How about trying to debunk the arguments of the "wrong" people instead of complaining and ignoring them.
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On October 18 2012 08:18 Dark_Chill wrote:
Okay, I play Janna, Nunu, Leona and Sona. I can't play Lulu, Taric or Alistar. Any suggestions on who I should pick up to fill out my support needs? (thank you refund option)
Blitz for when he isn't banned.
edit: ninjas everywhere
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On October 18 2012 07:54 zulu_nation8 wrote:
navi you've always been extremely condescending no matter what elo, and i've acted the same way no matter what elo, i never bring up personal skill in discussion unless the person is below 1200 or doesn't play ranked, in that case they should realize they don't have the necessary experience to argue anything. I've become more experienced through the # of games played, not through elo. I've also never talked down to anyone in liquidpractice or in TL normals. If you're talking about how much more of a jackass a person becomes when he gains elo you should look closer. Oh also, I (almost) never blame in TL games, and always try to help.
to sum it up i've NEVER made a post saying listen to me cuz i'm xxx elo, or i'm right cuz i'm xxx elo, you guys are projecting. I'd probably uninstall before i put my elo in my sig.
that wasnt directed at you but rather a question of general interest. Lol.
Like in a variety of games, genres, real life sports, real business monetary success etc. ppls attitudes do tend to change the higher up the hierarchy they go. Obv some of it has to do in terms of what their time is worth (i.e. discussions with children about football less valuable as a pro footballer as compared to a young kid learning the game himself) but their attitude towards those less proficient players does noticably change imo (disregarding simple pr).
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navi fight me, you have buffs
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On October 18 2012 08:07 Two_DoWn wrote:
God its been so long I almost teared up at the sight of all the old faces doing exactly the same things they did 6 months ago.
who are you
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we really need to open a (politically correct) grudgematch thread.
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On October 18 2012 08:21 TheKefka wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2012 08:15 zulu_nation8 wrote:On October 18 2012 08:07 WhiteDog wrote:On October 18 2012 07:58 WirelessWaffle wrote:On October 18 2012 07:56 Sufficiency wrote:On October 18 2012 07:55 WirelessWaffle wrote:On October 18 2012 07:52 WhiteDog wrote:On October 18 2012 07:47 zulu_nation8 wrote:
i'm only annoyed by people who repeatedly post dumb shit all over, i respond to everything with as much detail as needed. I've been on this forum for 7+ years there is a time for reasoning with people and there's a time for manning up. But using your e-peen to justify yourself is a poor excuse. Just stop doing that. Did you ever saw someone saying he was a grand master or even a high master in the SC2 forum to give credit to himself ? It's ridiculous. I thought all the posts were prefaced with, "I'm in gold league" at least that's what I remember before I quit SC2 On October 18 2012 07:45 JBright wrote:On October 18 2012 07:33 barbsq wrote:On October 18 2012 07:02 zulu_nation8 wrote:
what we need on this forum is more 1100s and unranked give more advice and opinions what we need on this forum is more 2k+ players who just tell people they're wrong and contribute nothing else What we need on this forum is more 2k+ players making good guide threads for the missing champions or updating the ones we already have. Seriously though - Twitch, Fiora, Varus, Zyra, and Syndra do not have dedicated threads for discussion. Don't know about the rest, but i remembered the fiora thread http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=344873 Gold is supposed to be good? No but people would post it as their credentials then get ripped to shreds. If a person knew about iccup and logged on at least once they were basically guaranteed to be diamond or higher in sc2. Edit: More importantly, has anyone found the location for the music from the orchestra that was at the finals? Do. Want. Badly. There is a huge difference between diamond, masters, high master and grand master (was master, far from GM). Diamond is like 1100 - you just start to understand the game and your mecanics are still bad. Still, my point remain, judge the value of an argument on its logic and intelligence not on the level of the guy who makes it. Zulu's logic that only high level players can understand high level plays is flawed. Also the location you mean where it comes from ? Because it's the music you have during champion selection. it's the fact that the bad opinions always come from the unrankeds who post the most on this forum that's annoying. Obviously I judge every opinion in of itself first before I consider who made it. If you list 50 comments from this thread with the poster blacked out it should be pretty easy to tell which opinions are from people who are unranked and which are from people who actually kinda know what's going on. And yes only high level players can understand high level play in many situations. I don't understand 80% of jungler thought processes in pro games so unless i'm blind, it probably means someone whos played 1/10 of the games i've played probably doesn't understand it either. Doesn't bother me really,the majority of people know who you should and shouldn't listen to in this forum. If the forum get's bigger I guess we could have highlighted quality posters like sc2 strategy has but until then don't see what the fuss is about,people can chime in if they want.
I don't think we'll need that. Neo has mentioned this before, but we're quite hivemind here in the LoL subforum. Most know to call bs when we see something that doesn't make sense. And if it really goes beyond that, we can always redirect the conversation to the champ specific thread and have the big theorycraft session over there instead of clogging up GD.
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Speaking of champion threads; Scip you should go write an amumu guide the other one is over a year old and severely outdated and he's probably going to be played more in S3 unless the new jungle hurts him in some way.
Maybe I should write a malphite guide that's over a year old too and he's pretty beastly.
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On October 18 2012 08:27 Dandel Ion wrote:
we really need to open a (politically correct) grudgematch thread.
A team of 5 1200 - against zulu. :D
Where's your knowledge now.
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