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Jumbled
Profile Joined September 2010
1543 Posts
October 17 2012 23:31 GMT
#201
On October 17 2012 22:39 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2012 22:36 Cuddle wrote:
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Co-op vs. AI

Intermediate bots now have a chance to use a random skin


This is so smart I can't believe it hasn't been implemented before!


ikr, advertising skins while playing the game.
Pretty sure this was suggested on TL like monthsssss ago.
npnpnp

In other news, SlayerS (SC2) team is disbanding and apparently SC2 pros, like Coca, Min, Puzzle, have jumped ship and starting LoL (or they've been playing for a while now). Will be interesting to see in the next few weeks/months if any of these former SC2 pros get picked up by a Korean LoL team. Not to kick SC2 while they're down, but having SC2 talent enter the Korean LoL pool is still pretty big news for us. :O

Puzzle switching is a bit weird, given that his big strength was always his APM and LoL really just doesn't require that.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
October 17 2012 23:32 GMT
#202
On October 18 2012 08:23 Slayer91 wrote:
How about trying to debunk the arguments of the "wrong" people instead of complaining and ignoring them.


If you feel like doing that for everything then ok. Also I've explained this before but a lot of stuff only applies at lower elo and vice versa. Sona might beat taric at higher elo but taric > sona at lower elo. Really only someone who has played at every elo can know why something works given the skill level but something else doesn't. So lots of times lower elos who post stuff that looks blatantly wrong actually apply correctly to their worse skill level and there's nothing any high elo can say that can disprove it. (Unless it's me who has played at every elo bracket more than anyone).
Pathos
Profile Joined April 2003
United States94 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-17 23:40:39
October 17 2012 23:35 GMT
#203
lol 2k elo is like 1800 adjusted for inflation GJ.

EDIT: 'high elo' is something like 2.4k now
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-17 23:39:33
October 17 2012 23:38 GMT
#204
On October 18 2012 08:35 Pathos wrote:
lol 2k elo is like 1800 adjusted for inflation GJ.

well 1800 league elo is like 1600 chess elo, so GG.

€: trust me, that's my elo peaks in either game, so I know what I'm talking about.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
October 17 2012 23:39 GMT
#205
On October 18 2012 08:35 Pathos wrote:
lol 2k elo is like 1800 adjusted for inflation GJ.


is this why i hit 2k
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
October 17 2012 23:41 GMT
#206
On October 18 2012 08:23 Slayer91 wrote:
How about trying to debunk the arguments of the "wrong" people instead of complaining and ignoring them.

sometimes it's not worth spending the time arguing about being right...
either it's a lost cause, or you just want them to learn why it's wrong by themselves.

when i'm trying to teach some of my friends some stuff i really just wanna tell to play a game and make mistakes instead of just pointing out what to do. i can tell my friend to orianna ball me when i use diana and tele in and use E so she can set up her ulti, but that requires good reaction and timing that you get through experience and when she whiffs it i can't really be mad when she's trying ori for the first time.

i usually just post here to mess around and toss some ideas in my head but honestly all the real improvement comes from playing games, evaluating what you did wrong, and remedying those mistakes here. when i try to break meta i run it in games with friends instead of just idly proposing it, and even when i run it in games i still need to identify the disadvantages and run it multiple times to see if there are any flaws.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-17 23:42:53
October 17 2012 23:41 GMT
#207
pretty sure if you ask anyone whos played at 2k if they think 2k is good they'll say no its trash elo, no one is good, which is exactly how I feel. Lol@ people thinking 2k+ players are worthy of giving opinions on the game, everyone is fucking bad except for the few people who actually understand the game regardless of elo.
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
October 17 2012 23:42 GMT
#208
so about that female character design
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[image loading]


anyone else think that its bad that they all look relatively the same?
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
October 17 2012 23:42 GMT
#209
On October 18 2012 08:41 zulu_nation8 wrote:
pretty sure if you ask anyone whos played at 2k if they think 2k is good they'll say no its trash elo, no one is good, which is exactly how I feel. Lol@ people think 2k+ players are worthy of giving opinions on the game, everyone is fucking bad except for the few people who actually understand the game regardless of elo.

Ya dude I totally agree dude like wtf who these people think they are??
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-17 23:46:00
October 17 2012 23:44 GMT
#210
On October 18 2012 08:42 Frolossus wrote:
so about that female character design
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


anyone else think that its bad that they all look relatively the same?

You really want a fat ass ugly woman as a champion ? Irelia, lux or kata also are basically the same.
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
October 17 2012 23:45 GMT
#211
On October 18 2012 08:44 WhiteDog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2012 08:42 Frolossus wrote:
so about that female character design
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


anyone else think that its bad that they all look relatively the same?

You really want a fat ass ugly woman as a champion ?

u no like big booty bitches?
Cackle™
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
October 17 2012 23:45 GMT
#212
On October 18 2012 08:44 WhiteDog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2012 08:42 Frolossus wrote:
so about that female character design
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


anyone else think that its bad that they all look relatively the same?

You really want a fat ass ugly woman as a champion ?

I do.
They already have Gragas as the fat ass manly man, so now we need a fat ass woman. Equality yo.

We also need more black people.

The asian population is okay tho.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-17 23:48:13
October 17 2012 23:46 GMT
#213
On October 18 2012 08:42 MooMooMugi wrote:
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On October 18 2012 08:41 zulu_nation8 wrote:
pretty sure if you ask anyone whos played at 2k if they think 2k is good they'll say no its trash elo, no one is good, which is exactly how I feel. Lol@ people think 2k+ players are worthy of giving opinions on the game, everyone is fucking bad except for the few people who actually understand the game regardless of elo.

Ya dude I totally agree dude like wtf who these people think they are??


that's why i never say anything but obv i know when somethings terrible advice so then people are like omg why u only flame and no explain? There are very few people who actually know what's going in this game and one of the requirements is 5s experience, doesn't matter how much solo queue you play there are certain things you will never be exposed to if you don't play 5s.

Basically I just don't understand why people don't realize they don't know what they're talking about.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-17 23:48:18
October 17 2012 23:47 GMT
#214
On October 18 2012 08:41 zulu_nation8 wrote:
pretty sure if you ask anyone whos played at 2k if they think 2k is good they'll say no its trash elo, no one is good, which is exactly how I feel. Lol@ people thinking 2k+ players are worthy of giving opinions on the game, everyone is fucking bad except for the few people who actually understand the game regardless of elo.



That's silly if anyone truly understood the game they'd be the top players in the world. You can't argue that their "mechanics" are bad or something that might have been plausible in starcraft but definitely not in LoL.

Bad isn't a state that makes your opinions irrelevant, it represents an uncomplete understanding of the game and a tendency to make mistakes based on lack of awareness of the situation. This includes many aspects of the game including picks and ban phase.

However everyone shares both those problems and people have understanding in different areas therefore froggen might think azubu frost was better than TPA but Torch and most others predicted Azubu frost woudld lose yet froggen is clearly the best player here.
Look at how awful hotshot was at jungle and still is. Nobody understands everything. The game as a whole is so massively and chaotically complicated and if people really "understood the game" they wouldn't be surprised by new picks and strats.
wussleeQ
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States3130 Posts
October 17 2012 23:49 GMT
#215
On October 18 2012 08:45 Dandel Ion wrote:
We also need more black people.

Nocturne
BW -> League -> CSGO
Dark_Chill
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada3353 Posts
October 17 2012 23:51 GMT
#216
On October 18 2012 08:44 WhiteDog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2012 08:42 Frolossus wrote:
so about that female character design
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


anyone else think that its bad that they all look relatively the same?

You really want a fat ass ugly woman as a champion ?

Last time I checked Gragas was pretty popular, so fat people are fine. Doesn't really have to be ugly, and in the end, it all comes down to the character's abilities. So it sort of makes the art design "controversy" a little bit pointless when people aren't playing champions based on breast size.

On October 18 2012 08:22 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2012 08:18 Dark_Chill wrote:
Okay, I play Janna, Nunu, Leona and Sona. I can't play Lulu, Taric or Alistar. Any suggestions on who I should pick up to fill out my support needs? (thank you refund option)

How is it possible to not be able to play taric?

whatevs, Blitz is very important for soloQ. Grab ppl, carry hard.

Soraka isn't really meta atm, but she's easy as fuck to play, so you might as well.

It's not really that I can't play him, but I really dislike playing him, even if I win. He's just so boring and he feels like the least influential support I have even when if I just completely crush the other lane. Lulu and Alistar (Ali possibly because I can never play him) I just actually suck with. Will try Soraka though, and might as well pick Blitz up too.
CUTE MAKES RIGHT
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
October 17 2012 23:51 GMT
#217
On October 18 2012 08:49 wussleeQ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2012 08:45 Dandel Ion wrote:
We also need more black people.

Nocturne

PEOPLE, not weird ghosts
Also I said "more", because there is a single black champ already.
+ Show Spoiler +
It's Karma
There's also Tribal Ryze, but skins don't count
A backwards poet writes inverse.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
October 17 2012 23:53 GMT
#218
I run off to go get a massage and come to people talking about elo? wtf gaiz.

But on a more serious note, our community is pretty damn insular if I may say so. For the most part, we know who talks legitimate theorycraft and who's just talking ideas/wants more discussion. The really, really bad posts either go the path of PrinceXizor or are secretly mocked off the boards.

afaik, I don't think we need highlight markers for "gud" posters. Our population isn't even close to warranting such an add-on.

On a side note, for Season 3, more goodies for our subforum. Obviously the main priority right now is the Worlds Write-up. Our staff also has an insane editorial about LoL coming up. Lastly, I'm hoping to revamp and shape up our champions/team list before Season 3 officially starts.

We do all this for you.
For the glory that is TeamLiquid~
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-17 23:58:10
October 17 2012 23:55 GMT
#219
On October 18 2012 08:53 NeoIllusions wrote:
I run off to go get a massage [...]

Don't condescend to me.



On October 18 2012 08:53 NeoIllusions wrote:
But on a more serious note, our community is pretty damn insular if I may say so. For the most part, we know who talks legitimate theorycraft and who's just talking ideas/wants more discussion. The really, really bad posts either go the path of PrinceXizor or are secretly mocked off the boards.

afaik, I don't think we need highlight markers for "gud" posters. Our population isn't even close to warranting such an add-on.

On a side note, for Season 3, more goodies for our subforum. Obviously the main priority right now is the Worlds Write-up. Our staff also has an insane editorial about LoL coming up. Lastly, I'm hoping to revamp and shape up our champions/team list before Season 3 officially starts.

We do all this for you.
For the glory that is TeamLiquid~

I have always wondered what would happen if we suddenly got an influx of people for whatever reason and how the existing community would deal with it. My theory is that people who follow our system would be treated fine, and anyone who posts like this was Reddit would be swiftly dealt with and ridiculed.

In some ways, it's much better here than in the DotA forum simply due to the fact bad posters are quickly called out for posting bad. At the same time though, there can be personality clashes at times that can become heated. Neo has been pretty lenient with everyone (as has Chill, Beyonder, etc. when they visit), although sometimes the other external Mods and Admins take a harsher line.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
October 17 2012 23:57 GMT
#220
i want to join the writing team! where do i sign up?
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