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Zhiroo
Kosovo2724 Posts
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On October 23 2012 00:17 Zhiroo wrote: How come nobody plays Orianna support? You can, and while her harass is pretty top-notch she has no hard cc like Zyra does until 6, and it's nowhere near the huge range. Her AP ratio as well are pretty ridiculous and without AP Orianna is more or less a wasted pick. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
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thenexusp
United States3721 Posts
On October 23 2012 00:27 WaveofShadow wrote: You can, and while her harass is pretty top-notch she has no hard cc like Zyra does until 6, and it's nowhere near the huge range. Her AP ratio as well are pretty ridiculous and without AP Orianna is more or less a wasted pick. Do people consider roots to be hard CC? I always heard the definition that hard CC = things that break channels but that counts silences in and roots out, although I think generally people prefer roots to silences if given the choice | ||
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Antyee
Hungary1011 Posts
On October 23 2012 00:32 thenexusp wrote: Do people consider roots to be hard CC? I always heard the definition that hard CC = things that break channels but that counts silences in and roots out, although I think generally people prefer roots to silences if given the choice As far as I know, hard CC is what prevents you from controlling your character. (stun, fear, knockups and -backs). Snares are borderline, some people say it's hard since it prevents one from chasing/running away. Quite some time ago when the support Orianna question emerged, the worst answer was: play Janna instead. Her mana is way easier to manage. Lulu also works imo. | ||
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misirlou
Portugal3238 Posts
On October 23 2012 00:32 thenexusp wrote: Do people consider roots to be hard CC? I always heard the definition that hard CC = things that break channels but that counts silences in and roots out, although I think generally people prefer roots to silences if given the choice diana E breaks channels but i hardly see it as hard cc. it wont stop a bruiser/adc from neutering you with just autoattacks | ||
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Deleted User 101379
4849 Posts
Hard CC: Prevents a character from moving (Root, Stun, Knockup) Soft CC: Slows a character down Disables: Prevents a character from performing actions but doesn't neccessarily slow him or prevent him from moving (Silence, Knockback) | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
On October 23 2012 00:46 Morfildur wrote: My definition: Hard CC: Prevents a character from moving (Root, Stun, Knockup) Soft CC: Slows a character down Disables: Prevents a character from performing actions but doesn't neccessarily slow him or prevent him from moving (Silence, Knockback) And then there's Amumu ult, which is a tangle and Lulu W which screw up every categorization system.  | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On October 23 2012 00:15 cLutZ wrote: Why do you need to push? Tiger > Phoenix for lane udyr. You have to auto her, contrary to, say, Shen or Jayce, so you'll push the lane. I just learnt the hard way that DFG's projectile speed and Eve's ult are too fast for the delay in Sivir's spellshield to kick in, unless you cast preemptively when she runs at you but isn't in range yet. Urgh. And that game had also Sona and WW in it, so even QSS on top of that wasn't enough. I should prob have just bought banshee in retrospect, the passive is only "bad" if the opposing team has poke (which they didn't). | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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[DUF]MethodMan
Germany1716 Posts
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Lounge
537 Posts
I found her best with a lane bully like Draven. Her ball provides MR/AR even when the shield is down, as long as the ball is on the target, so he's bullying you leave it on him, when he's last hitting you keep in the bush for zoning/control. | ||
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kongoline
6318 Posts
On October 23 2012 01:03 Alaric wrote: You have to auto her, contrary to, say, Shen or Jayce, so you'll push the lane. to be fair if u get camped no matter who you are you will most likely going to lose the lane | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
On October 23 2012 01:14 Lounge wrote: I'm a big fan of support Ori. She's no Soraka/Sona/Taric but if you want to do something unconditional she's pretty fun. Her biggest problem is you're going to need chalice, and it's going to delay your aura items. I found her best with a lane bully like Draven. Her ball provides MR/AR even when the shield is down, as long as the ball is on the target, so he's bullying you leave it on him, when he's last hitting you keep in the bush for zoning/control. if you go draven, nunu support da best. BB really helps w/ mobility because draven has no escape (i dont really count the E) and lets him catch axes ez, and that atkspd means you do ridiculous damage. id go lulu or janna over orianna personally. she's not bad, but lulu/ janna has stronger poke and more utility. lulu passive is useful, but orianna passive needs money to be good. | ||
Chexx
Korea (South)11232 Posts
KT1 is missing. no further information, there are just gone. edit: according to one forum user KT got a BYE instead there is Team X with reapered. ![[image loading]](http://upload.inven.co.kr/upload/2012/10/22/bbs/i4415833853.jpg) The offline qualifiers will be in Busan aparently | ||
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Argoth.
Germany1961 Posts
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
http://www.gamespot.com/news/league-of-legends-season-2-championships-most-watched-esports-event-of-all-time-6398663 | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
The fact of the matter is Draven does really well against Graves/Corki and better than most vs Ez . | ||
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fishinguy
Russian Federation798 Posts
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