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overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
October 22 2012 06:50 GMT
#2041
I don't know why anyone cares. ESEA isn't gonna put up a big prize pool at all for the RTS/MOBA games. They're basically the name for online FPS games in North America and so the vast majority of their resources and focus go to their FPS line up. SC2 had an ESEA league for like a year. Maybe more. I don't think I ever heard of a single ESEA SC2 match lol. Granted, I don't really watch SC2 but I at least hear about GSL and DreamHack and shit.
ChaoSbringer
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Australia1382 Posts
October 22 2012 07:14 GMT
#2042
Skarnold on Aphromoo's stream, flashing for dat kill.
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
October 22 2012 07:17 GMT
#2043
On October 22 2012 15:21 HazMat wrote:
This is pretty funny. A bunch of sc2 players found out about this poll and noticed starcraft2 was getting crushed. They all rose up for the glory of ESPORTS to defeat the devil that is LoL. I'm surprised they're actually winning. Probably because no one from LoL even knows about this poll l0l.

whenever i think of people caring about esports it's really just people who care about sc2. never seen anybody talk about any of the other games, whether it's fps or fighting games or whatever.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
October 22 2012 07:29 GMT
#2044
random Corki on Scarras stream triple kill doublelift/nhat at like 3 mins lol
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
schmutttt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia3856 Posts
October 22 2012 07:30 GMT
#2045
On October 22 2012 15:21 HazMat wrote:
This is pretty funny. A bunch of sc2 players found out about this poll and noticed starcraft2 was getting crushed. They all rose up for the glory of ESPORTS to defeat the devil that is LoL. I'm surprised they're actually winning. Probably because no one from LoL even knows about this poll l0l.


Yeah, how dare someone try and support the game they like.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
October 22 2012 07:33 GMT
#2046
On October 22 2012 16:29 arb wrote:
random Corki on Scarras stream triple kill doublelift/nhat at like 3 mins lol


whats ID?
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
October 22 2012 07:45 GMT
#2047
On October 22 2012 15:21 HazMat wrote:
This is pretty funny. A bunch of sc2 players found out about this poll and noticed starcraft2 was getting crushed. They all rose up for the glory of ESPORTS to defeat the devil that is LoL. I'm surprised they're actually winning. Probably because no one from LoL even knows about this poll l0l.


Dota 2
11,347

HoN
884

LoL
38,180

SC2
36,678


lolllll
GG Dota 2
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
October 22 2012 07:46 GMT
#2048
I actually kind of want SC2 to win. They've had such a shitty week...
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
c.Deadly
Profile Joined March 2010
United States545 Posts
October 22 2012 07:48 GMT
#2049
On October 22 2012 15:00 MooMooMugi wrote:
Just something funny I noticed a lot in <level 30 games

majority of usernames have something to do with smoking/weed/or blazing, the creativity amazes me

Some examples:
Smokinfire420
xxbl4z0rxx
w33dsell3r
SwishNDanK


This was also really common in DotA.. I have some great screenshots of weed-related War3 usernames
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
October 22 2012 08:30 GMT
#2050
I like BW above SC2, although I enjoy SC2's graphics and UI for custom games a lot more, huehue. I still from time to time play sc's original campaigns though lol. SC2's campaign never really made me do that. Except the protoss missions cause those were just so epic.
Professionally though, BW is a million times better to me, and if I had to choose professional SC2 vs professional LoL, I'd go for LoL.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
October 22 2012 08:38 GMT
#2051
On October 22 2012 16:46 HazMat wrote:
I actually kind of want SC2 to win. They've had such a shitty week...

They are about to fuck over a whole league if sc2 wins.No one is going to watch that shit because of how many tournaments there are anyway and all because of a inferiority complex r/starcraft has.
Cackle™
FR4CT4L
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia697 Posts
October 22 2012 08:53 GMT
#2052
On October 22 2012 16:33 zulu_nation8 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2012 16:29 arb wrote:
random Corki on Scarras stream triple kill doublelift/nhat at like 3 mins lol


whats ID?


I watched the game, the ID is meromeron. It had more to do with dlift throwing hard by missing skill shots and making really really bad calls than any particularly stellar play on corkis part.
Veni, vidi, vici!
Wetty
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia419 Posts
October 22 2012 10:01 GMT
#2053
Looking for some advice - just played a ranked game where I had last pick, and needed to pick an AD.

Enemy team had already picked Jax top, lee jungle, Cho mid, naut support, and Ez for AD.

My team had taken Xin top, Dari jungle, Vik mid and taric support.

All of that I knew before making my pick. Sadly I dont have Graves or Corki available for AD picks. I choose to take Vayne, with a pretty defensive setup, taking movespeed quints and doing 12/9/9 masteries (Trying to focus on some defense, and extra movement speed, getting dmg/arp in offensive) I took flash and cleanse, with the intention of going PD first for the movement speed.

Clearly it all went badly, they got some kills in lane and our lane got ignored by both teams junglers. Ez ended up beating me handily in CS as I was under my tower most of the game and did a poor job. His lane phase ended with him 5 kills up, and having a significant CS lead.

Anyway, my question is, what would of been a smart pick for AD and setup in that situation? (Or one similar, where by you can see the enemy team has a bunch of strong cc/divers/hard lane)

In retrospect I feel Cait could have been a good pick, as the range and escape, with a strong lane phase might have made the laning go a lot better. Clearly theres a bunch I could have done to have done better in that lane phase, i.e. better cs, dont die etc, but I'm curious as to opinions on what I could have done for a pick, and general runes/masteries setup (As in, is it ever reasonable to go with movement quints over AD/ARP, or just stick to flat AD/armor/MR?)
Abenson
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada4122 Posts
October 22 2012 10:06 GMT
#2054
On October 22 2012 19:01 Wetty wrote:
Looking for some advice - just played a ranked game where I had last pick, and needed to pick an AD.

Enemy team had already picked Jax top, lee jungle, Cho mid, naut support, and Ez for AD.

My team had taken Xin top, Dari jungle, Vik mid and taric support.

All of that I knew before making my pick. Sadly I dont have Graves or Corki available for AD picks. I choose to take Vayne, with a pretty defensive setup, taking movespeed quints and doing 12/9/9 masteries (Trying to focus on some defense, and extra movement speed, getting dmg/arp in offensive) I took flash and cleanse, with the intention of going PD first for the movement speed.

Clearly it all went badly, they got some kills in lane and our lane got ignored by both teams junglers. Ez ended up beating me handily in CS as I was under my tower most of the game and did a poor job. His lane phase ended with him 5 kills up, and having a significant CS lead.

Anyway, my question is, what would of been a smart pick for AD and setup in that situation? (Or one similar, where by you can see the enemy team has a bunch of strong cc/divers/hard lane)

In retrospect I feel Cait could have been a good pick, as the range and escape, with a strong lane phase might have made the laning go a lot better. Clearly theres a bunch I could have done to have done better in that lane phase, i.e. better cs, dont die etc, but I'm curious as to opinions on what I could have done for a pick, and general runes/masteries setup (As in, is it ever reasonable to go with movement quints over AD/ARP, or just stick to flat AD/armor/MR?)


They have Naut/Lee/Cho/Jax. Those people are capable of flashing/jumping on top of you, so you really,really need an AD with good escapes. Vayne was probably not the best choice for that scenario as a pink ward/oracle in the middle of teamfight will render you useless or unless you have extremely good positioning.

There's a reason Corki/Graves is considered top tier, because they are the best picks for situations like these:
They are able to lane against ez without getting destroyed, and have a good escapes to survive the enemy team diving them.
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
October 22 2012 10:08 GMT
#2055
looking at character picks should be the last thing you do, maybe you just got outplayed?
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
October 22 2012 10:11 GMT
#2056
Yeah I voted for SC2 but all things considered, it's obvious nobody is going to watch the tournament if SC2 win considering all the tournament there is already.
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
October 22 2012 10:14 GMT
#2057
On October 22 2012 19:06 Abenson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2012 19:01 Wetty wrote:
Looking for some advice - just played a ranked game where I had last pick, and needed to pick an AD.

Enemy team had already picked Jax top, lee jungle, Cho mid, naut support, and Ez for AD.

My team had taken Xin top, Dari jungle, Vik mid and taric support.

All of that I knew before making my pick. Sadly I dont have Graves or Corki available for AD picks. I choose to take Vayne, with a pretty defensive setup, taking movespeed quints and doing 12/9/9 masteries (Trying to focus on some defense, and extra movement speed, getting dmg/arp in offensive) I took flash and cleanse, with the intention of going PD first for the movement speed.

Clearly it all went badly, they got some kills in lane and our lane got ignored by both teams junglers. Ez ended up beating me handily in CS as I was under my tower most of the game and did a poor job. His lane phase ended with him 5 kills up, and having a significant CS lead.

Anyway, my question is, what would of been a smart pick for AD and setup in that situation? (Or one similar, where by you can see the enemy team has a bunch of strong cc/divers/hard lane)

In retrospect I feel Cait could have been a good pick, as the range and escape, with a strong lane phase might have made the laning go a lot better. Clearly theres a bunch I could have done to have done better in that lane phase, i.e. better cs, dont die etc, but I'm curious as to opinions on what I could have done for a pick, and general runes/masteries setup (As in, is it ever reasonable to go with movement quints over AD/ARP, or just stick to flat AD/armor/MR?)


They have Naut/Lee/Cho/Jax. Those people are capable of flashing/jumping on top of you, so you really,really need an AD with good escapes. Vayne was probably not the best choice for that scenario as a pink ward/oracle in the middle of teamfight will render you useless or unless you have extremely good positioning.

There's a reason Corki/Graves is considered top tier, because they are the best picks for situations like these:
They are able to lane against ez without getting destroyed, and have a good escapes to survive the enemy team diving them.


Vayne is one of the best ADs vs a bruiser comp because of her mobility, w passive and lifesteal. Vayne is not a good pick vs Ezreal but at low elo it doesn't matter, especially when they have a nautilus support and you have taric. You should pretty much never get mspd quints on any AD carries unless you don't play on ever trading in lane. There's also 0 point going 12/9/9, the most defensive you can go is like 18 or something. I have honestly never seen the enemy team buy oracles/pink just for a Vayne, and even then you wouldn't be useless in teamfights. Cait would've laned easier but more useless to carry with.
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
October 22 2012 10:16 GMT
#2058
On October 22 2012 19:01 Wetty wrote:
Looking for some advice - just played a ranked game where I had last pick, and needed to pick an AD.

Enemy team had already picked Jax top, lee jungle, Cho mid, naut support, and Ez for AD.

My team had taken Xin top, Dari jungle, Vik mid and taric support.

All of that I knew before making my pick. Sadly I dont have Graves or Corki available for AD picks. I choose to take Vayne, with a pretty defensive setup, taking movespeed quints and doing 12/9/9 masteries (Trying to focus on some defense, and extra movement speed, getting dmg/arp in offensive) I took flash and cleanse, with the intention of going PD first for the movement speed.

Clearly it all went badly, they got some kills in lane and our lane got ignored by both teams junglers. Ez ended up beating me handily in CS as I was under my tower most of the game and did a poor job. His lane phase ended with him 5 kills up, and having a significant CS lead.

Anyway, my question is, what would of been a smart pick for AD and setup in that situation? (Or one similar, where by you can see the enemy team has a bunch of strong cc/divers/hard lane)

In retrospect I feel Cait could have been a good pick, as the range and escape, with a strong lane phase might have made the laning go a lot better. Clearly theres a bunch I could have done to have done better in that lane phase, i.e. better cs, dont die etc, but I'm curious as to opinions on what I could have done for a pick, and general runes/masteries setup (As in, is it ever reasonable to go with movement quints over AD/ARP, or just stick to flat AD/armor/MR?)


What I do if I need to lane AD is just dont feed the enemy ADC. I try to lane as save as possible if you have an enemy support like naut/blitz always remember to have a creep between you and him.
In my opinion sivir would have been a good pick too because ofher spellshield.

Try not to die and lane save as possible
CS as good as you can (take golems if their is time)
try to freeze lane.
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LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-22 10:17:38
October 22 2012 10:17 GMT
#2059
when you die in lane without a gank, its normally a player skill issue and not a champion issue.
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
October 22 2012 10:46 GMT
#2060
Just a reminder guys 12:00 GMT (+00:00) the IPL 5 korean qualifier will start.
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