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On October 04 2012 10:03 Eppa! wrote:
Got my first honour today, i said nothing all game pinged their red once and drake once. I only wrote gg in chat at the end of the game.
I still don't see an incentive to be nice.
See, that's the thing. If they incentivize honor by e.g. bonus IP then you're going to get an even bigger volume of people just spamming honor back and forth. If they don't, it's just a useless metric. I don't know how conceptually you can make this system work.
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I just tell my teammates that if they gank my lane I give them teamwork honor points. ez.
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TSM is scrimming WE right now but I can't find a stream/they made it non-spectatable =(
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On October 04 2012 13:01 Craton wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2012 10:03 Eppa! wrote:
Got my first honour today, i said nothing all game pinged their red once and drake once. I only wrote gg in chat at the end of the game.
I still don't see an incentive to be nice. See, that's the thing. If they incentivize honor by e.g. bonus IP then you're going to get an even bigger volume of people just spamming honor back and forth. If they don't, it's just a useless metric. I don't know how conceptually you can make this system work.
I think it's amusing that they "copied" it from DotA 2 (and that people complain about the fact that they copied it)--because anyone who plays DotA 2 could have told you beforehand that they system is largely useless, and nobody gives it a second look.
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On October 04 2012 10:13 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2012 10:09 wussleeQ wrote:On October 04 2012 09:58 Frolossus wrote:
why isn't AP kog picked anymore?
is it just because of the roaming assassin thing going on now? Cost of ulti got ridiculous. Rightfully so, AP Kog was ridic.
Ultimate costs a lot of mana. Sometimes I can easily get carried away and blow all of my mana (/w RoA and full tear) through R.
I think he is still viable tbh, but he definitely isn't as facerolling as he used to be
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On October 04 2012 13:23 Sufficiency wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2012 10:13 emperorchampion wrote:On October 04 2012 10:09 wussleeQ wrote:On October 04 2012 09:58 Frolossus wrote:
why isn't AP kog picked anymore?
is it just because of the roaming assassin thing going on now? Cost of ulti got ridiculous. Rightfully so, AP Kog was ridic. Ultimate costs a lot of mana. Sometimes I can easily get carried away and blow all of my mana (/w RoA and full tear) through R. I think he is still viable tbh, but he definitely isn't as facerolling as he used to be
Its just like manatank Kassadin on Dominion-- you built FH, Athene's and just blinked and killed shit. They nerfed it hard. 
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AP kog was fucking absurd. Longer range than xerath. Spammable more than xerath. With blue buff you could spam infinitely, or enough to win a 4v5 even if you're oom. And you're too far away to be engaged on. AP kog only needed two items to effectively end the game.
When CLG could win by literally never fighting and just letting kog 1v5 the other team, there is a real problem with a champion.
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I really like Syndra's model but man. I hate her helmet.
Helmetless Syndra skin plz. Probably after they make a Sivir that can run on land instead of swimming all the time.
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On October 04 2012 13:30 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
When CLG could win by literally never fighting and just letting kog 1v5 the other team, there is a real problem with a champion.
Well I mean, that's pretty much CLG EU's entire strategy regardless of team comp.
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On October 04 2012 13:32 kainzero wrote:
I really like Syndra's model but man. I hate her helmet.
Helmetless Syndra skin plz. Probably after they make a Sivir that can run on land instead of swimming all the time.
I feel that this won't be possible. She is identified by her helmet I feel.... kind of like Singed and his shield.
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On October 04 2012 13:38 Sufficiency wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2012 13:32 kainzero wrote:
I really like Syndra's model but man. I hate her helmet.
Helmetless Syndra skin plz. Probably after they make a Sivir that can run on land instead of swimming all the time. I feel that this won't be possible. She is identified by her helmet I feel.... kind of like Singed and his shield.
Singed has a shield? What? It's just a surfboard man.
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Could make her helmet a dunce cap to explain how well she's often played atm.
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On October 04 2012 14:14 BlackPaladin wrote:
Could make her helmet a dunce cap to explain how well she's often played atm.
How well she's often played?
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On October 04 2012 14:21 HazMat wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2012 14:14 BlackPaladin wrote:
Could make her helmet a dunce cap to explain how well she's often played atm. How well she's often played?
She is played a whooping 0.6% of the games. W00t!
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wow thats well shes often played.
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my head hurts because of grammar.
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he means to say it could explain how she's played often well atm.
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By the way, does Syndra's helmet remind anyone else of Midna from Twilight Princess?
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On October 04 2012 15:10 UniversalSnip wrote:
he means to say it could explain how she's played often well atm.
A dunce cap would explain the poor play of people using her at the moment.
I think that's what he meant.
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On October 04 2012 08:28 Craton wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2012 06:43 Kenpachi wrote:
so what i got from guides and places is that no one counters katarina anymore Best I've seen is Morg for smurfing, but still think a good Kat beats a good Morg. I suspect some really dumb laners like Yorick would do fine.
Sorry I'm late to the party, I just wanted to share my 2 cents on countering Katarina.
I play Katarina any chance I get (surprisingly often if I ask nicely in chat) and I'm low-as-fuck-elo but I cannot contend with Akali in lane.
Akali Q > Kataina Q
Akali mark proc > Katarina mark proc
Akali AA > Katarina AA
I feel that in lane, there is no way for me to trade with Akali as long as she saves her Q for me. If i get close to minions, she QE me, i QEW retaliate and she comes out ahead. If we trade close to minions (usually when I go for cs) my QW pushes minion more than her E. When we hit level 6 I become even more desperate for her to waste her Q before I can go in because her QR does more damage to me than my QEWR to her (granted that she doesn't wait around for my full ult to finish). And 10 seconds later, she's ready to trade again while my R is on cd.
So, basically I sit waiting for ganks and trying my best to cs without getting chunked by her combos. That's said, if I can keep up in cs decently i feel I have a stronger contribution in team fights mid game, but that's on account of Akali being even more niche than Katarina.
Also, Fiddles mid is terror as Katarina. REAL TERROR!
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