[Patch 1.0.0.148: Kha'Zix] General Discussion - Page 14

On September 28 2012 06:51 bmn wrote:


I thought Rengar has been played quite successfully for a while already, it's just that AP was considered better than AD by many (before the patches).

According to lolking (I'm sure it's not exact, but it should be good enough for this) Rengar's solo queue win rate never was below 45% in September; it's actually been close to 60% for over a week now (which is ridiculously high).

Syndra win rate has never even been higher than 30%.

Yeah, people certainly haven't figured her out :-)

On September 28 2012 03:19 udgnim wrote:
I'm starting to approach Lvl 20 at around Lvl 18.6 and wondering what Lvl 3 runes I should get once I hit 20

what I've played lately is just choosing some tanky character (Nautilius, Hecarim) because my team doesn't choose one and stacking armor since opposing teams are almost always AD heavy at the level I play against so far. I'm not sure if I'm very good playing a tanky play style but since I'm basically mitigating the opposing team by armor stacking, I fulfill a pretty useful role of being able to lead the team around and not being instagibbed.

I'm probably not going to play ADC very often since that role almost always gets chosen. I'll play AP if no one else does. I've tried jungling and don't mind jungling but I'm not very efficient with it due to not having a Lvl 30 build or Lvl 3 runes and there's obviously inexperience with ganking attempts or being in a lane when someone goes back to buy. the level I play almost always uses does not have a jungler and has 2 on bot and top lane.

I'm not going to play support unless it can be aggressive like Blitzcrank because I don't trust my partner to effectively make use of it.

On September 28 2012 06:38 Gahlo wrote:

By and large, this is true:
http://i.imgur.com/YT7vq.png

On September 28 2012 07:00 overt wrote:


I don't really care what lolking says to be honest (personally I think lolking is the worst addition to this game ever, people cite winrates without actually thinking about champions anymore). Regardless, upon release Rengar had like a 36-38% some winrate prior to the discovery of AP Rengar. Even AP Rengar had winrates in the low 40s though.

Syndra has retarded poke and a fucking absurd stun. She's been out for 12 days. Anyone who thinks a champion can be figured out and understood in 12 days is naive. I'm not saying Syndra is OP or anything. Just saying that statements like, "she isn't useless anymore," aren't relevant. The champion is new and isn't fully understood or figured out. All we know right now is that her CC is really good and she has really strong poke. In the right team comps she's probably a good champion.

She's not going to be allowed at world's though so none of the people who are really good at AP mid have any real incentive to play her.

On September 28 2012 07:14 bmn wrote:


I never said she was weak. I never said she was a bad champion.
I said: people clearly haven't figured her out.

Rengar's win rate changes weren't just people figuring him out. He jumped from 50% to 59% the day AD rengar got buffed, it's hard to argue that the patch didn't have a significant effect.