EPT[Patch 1.0.0.148: Kha'Zix] General Discussion - Page 14
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epoc
Finland1190 Posts
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bmn
886 Posts
On September 28 2012 07:00 overt wrote: I don't really care what lolking says to be honest (personally I think lolking is the worst addition to this game ever, people cite winrates without actually thinking about champions anymore). Regardless, upon release Rengar had like a 36-38% some winrate prior to the discovery of AP Rengar. Even AP Rengar had winrates in the low 40s though. Syndra has retarded poke and a fucking absurd stun. She's been out for 12 days. Anyone who thinks a champion can be figured out and understood in 12 days is naive. I'm not saying Syndra is OP or anything. Just saying that statements like, "she isn't useless anymore," aren't relevant. The champion is new and isn't fully understood or figured out. All we know right now is that her CC is really good and she has really strong poke. In the right team comps she's probably a good champion. She's not going to be allowed at world's though so none of the people who are really good at AP mid have any real incentive to play her. I never said she was weak. I never said she was a bad champion. I said: people clearly haven't figured her out. Rengar's win rate changes weren't just people figuring him out. He jumped from 50% to 59% the day AD rengar got buffed, it's hard to argue that the patch didn't have a significant effect. | ||
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emperorchampion
Canada9496 Posts
2 main flaws imo 1) afaik hp/lvl is better for ap mids or just stick with flat armour 2) ms quints > armour quints for jungling also can't ever imagine running armour reds on a jungler | ||
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Doctorbeat
Netherlands13241 Posts
On September 28 2012 07:22 emperorchampion wrote: 2 main flaws imo 1) afaik hp/lvl is better for ap mids or just stick with flat armour 2) ms quints > armour quints for jungling also can't ever imagine running armour reds on a jungler Full AP can be strong on mids. I like my Gragas with a full AP runepage. And MS quints is situational too. On junglers with leaps (Lee and such) I use a 15 AD page, on Maokai and other AP scaling junglers I use AP quints and those that really benefit from MS (IE no gap closer) I use MS quints on (Skarner, Udyr, Olaf). | ||
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Gahlo
United States35143 Posts
On September 28 2012 07:22 emperorchampion wrote: 2 main flaws imo 1) afaik hp/lvl is better for ap mids or just stick with flat armour 2) ms quints > armour quints for jungling also can't ever imagine running armour reds on a jungler Amumu? Keep in mind that this is also a basic rune page flowchart to hit as many bases as possible for the least IP. | ||
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phyvo
United States5635 Posts
It was 2.2k elo. I'm worse at this game than these people. Might as well uninstall. X( | ||
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Zess
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
Although if you play with MS quints too much you get really bad at reacting to skillshots when you play without them D: | ||
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
On September 28 2012 07:35 phyvo wrote: So I just spectated a game. It was the messiest pile of crap ever. Missed flashes, running into baron 1v5 and dying, split pushing all day and getting caught all the time, continuing to attack baron as 2 while your teammates are failing 2v2 nearby, and endlessly getting caught in jungles as 1 or 2 when you have no vision and entire enemy team was MIA. I thought I was spectating some kind of low elo game. It was 2.2k elo. I'm worse at this game than these people. Might as well uninstall. X( What is this mythical creature which, upon seeing higher Elo players screw up royally, concludes not that he is above them, but a worse player than he had ever before conceived?! If you weren't my brother I wouldn't believe you existed. | ||
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WhiteDog
France8650 Posts
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overt
United States9006 Posts
On September 28 2012 07:14 bmn wrote: I never said she was weak. I never said she was a bad champion. I said: people clearly haven't figured her out. Rengar's win rate changes weren't just people figuring him out. He jumped from 50% to 59% the day AD rengar got buffed, it's hard to argue that the patch didn't have a significant effect. My bad. I took your last comment as sarcastic. As if to say she's bad and everyone's figured her out but she's just a bad champion. | ||
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OutlaW-
Czech Republic5053 Posts
cant really kill anyone 1v1 and isnt very good at making plays | ||
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Gahlo
United States35143 Posts
On September 28 2012 07:35 phyvo wrote: So I just spectated a game. It was the messiest pile of crap ever. Missed flashes, running into baron 1v5 and dying, split pushing all day and getting caught all the time, continuing to attack baron as 2 while your teammates are failing 2v2 nearby, and endlessly getting caught in jungles as 1 or 2 when you have no vision and entire enemy team was MIA. I thought I was spectating some kind of low elo game. It was 2.2k elo. I'm worse at this game than these people. Might as well uninstall. X( No no, you just don't have the knowledge to judge them. Joking aside, everybody makes dumb mistakes. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On September 28 2012 06:17 Slusher wrote: khaziz banned in every game I've played is he bannable good or just good? I can only guess he is good. He basically scales as good as Mordekaiser, except he has stealth, sustain, and escape/gap closer. | ||
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Jaso
United States2147 Posts
He basically crushed our Irelia; he was lvl7 at one point while she was like 3. But then I had a number of good ganks and our Fizz got ridiculously fed (like 14/4 fed) and even though Kha'Zix got really strong midgame he just got cc'd hard and couldn't make anything happen. So I don't think he's very strong. | ||
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WhiteDog
France8650 Posts
On September 28 2012 08:09 Jaso wrote: Was playing in a ~1500elo ranked game jungling Amumu with the new champ on the other team vs. our Irelia top. He basically crushed our Irelia; he was lvl7 at one point while she was like 3. But then I had a number of good ganks and our Fizz got ridiculously fed (like 14/4 fed) and even though Kha'Zix got really strong midgame he just got cc'd hard and couldn't make anything happen. So I don't think he's very strong. He is a beast in 1vs1 thought, if you catch someone isolated, you just destroy him. | ||
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bmn
886 Posts
On September 28 2012 07:56 overt wrote: My bad. I took your last comment as sarcastic. As if to say she's bad and everyone's figured her out but she's just a bad champion. Ah, that explains the harsh response, I see how the smiley could have been confusing. It wasn't sarcastic, I was just very surprised (and somewhat amused) to see that people were actually doing /that/ badly. I'm still not sure why; it's not like she's a snowballing "win early or become useless" champion (Shaco, LB), and her CC is useful even when you aren't fed. | ||
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Kenpachi
United States9908 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
Anybody else having this problem? I read that most of you don't care and ctrl+skill anyway but with that thing becoming rampant... and it's really obnoxious how you can't juke shit because you don't even know if this or that spell has a valid particle. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
I am kind of annoyed because I don't understand Spanish. | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
la pasión de la danza Really hard, yeah. | ||
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