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IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
October 08 2012 21:54 GMT
#2581
Is it just me or does jungle lee sin require you to get kills early just to stay even mid/late game?
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
October 08 2012 21:56 GMT
#2582
On October 09 2012 06:37 MooMooMugi wrote:
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=2656381

Everyone support 5hit, even Dyrus is fighting for him!

"THIs IS THE MOST F>>>ING RETARDED THING IVE SEEN RIOT DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

AND IVE SEEN PLAYOFFS ON SATURDAY" made me lol.

Even if his intention was to make people read "shit"combo, I still think the word shit is okay in a teen rated game. It's not pokemon please, people die in the field of justice everyday.
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
Nikon
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bulgaria5710 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-08 21:56:38
October 08 2012 21:56 GMT
#2583
On October 09 2012 06:54 IMoperator wrote:
Is it just me or does jungle lee sin require you to get kills early just to stay even mid/late game?


That's pretty much every jungler out there, jungle farm is pretty lackluster.
Deleted User 101379
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
4849 Posts
October 08 2012 21:58 GMT
#2584
On October 09 2012 06:54 IMoperator wrote:
Is it just me or does jungle lee sin require you to get kills early just to stay even mid/late game?


From what i understand, Lee Sin is a gank dependant jungler. If you don't get kills, it doesn't matter how farmed you are, you still fall off too hard.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
October 08 2012 22:06 GMT
#2585
On October 09 2012 06:10 Morfildur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2012 06:08 cLutZ wrote:
On October 09 2012 06:05 Terranasaur wrote:
I really think they need to institute a banning phase into bot games. Annie bot OP.


Lol. Annie Bot is the strongest bot. MF is so bad. Make it rain on minions every time.


I was sure about annie bot, too...
but then i played against malzahar bot a few times. That ult is soooooo annoying -.-

Though i still run away from Annie Bot every time she has the stun ready and wait for one of my teammates to get bursted down :p


Show nested quote +
On October 09 2012 05:58 Lmui wrote:
Alright, I've found a good way to reward the soloQ supports. Always honor your support, they're playing arguably the least popular role and deserve it. As long as they make a good faith effort to help you lane, they're 100% worth honoring.


If they don't mess up (too much): Friendly
If they ward properly and play well: Teamplay

My rule of thumb, though recently i get a lot of really, really bad supports that get neither from me.


Man, I support all day and still no honor :/

I'm going to say again I enjoy playing support because I feel that after jungle its the most versatile role and can potentially have the most effect on the game depending on your decisionmaking. No one subscribes to my school of thought though.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
October 08 2012 22:10 GMT
#2586
Dyrus "I need a champ that doesn't need too much brain power to play so I can rest", locks in Singed. Gogo!
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Dark_Chill
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada3353 Posts
October 08 2012 22:16 GMT
#2587
On October 09 2012 07:06 ticklishmusic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2012 06:10 Morfildur wrote:
On October 09 2012 06:08 cLutZ wrote:
On October 09 2012 06:05 Terranasaur wrote:
I really think they need to institute a banning phase into bot games. Annie bot OP.


Lol. Annie Bot is the strongest bot. MF is so bad. Make it rain on minions every time.


I was sure about annie bot, too...
but then i played against malzahar bot a few times. That ult is soooooo annoying -.-

Though i still run away from Annie Bot every time she has the stun ready and wait for one of my teammates to get bursted down :p


On October 09 2012 05:58 Lmui wrote:
Alright, I've found a good way to reward the soloQ supports. Always honor your support, they're playing arguably the least popular role and deserve it. As long as they make a good faith effort to help you lane, they're 100% worth honoring.


If they don't mess up (too much): Friendly
If they ward properly and play well: Teamplay

My rule of thumb, though recently i get a lot of really, really bad supports that get neither from me.


Man, I support all day and still no honor :/

I'm going to say again I enjoy playing support because I feel that after jungle its the most versatile role and can potentially have the most effect on the game depending on your decisionmaking. No one subscribes to my school of thought though.


Mid does have a pretty big effect on the game though. They have easier access to the other lanes than the other members of the team, and usually pack a good amount of cc to help the team out.
CUTE MAKES RIGHT
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
October 08 2012 22:39 GMT
#2588
I think top has the least effect, although it is the most snowbally, and morale definitely drops off a lot if top feeds even if it doesn't make that big of a difference.
TheSinisterRed
Profile Joined September 2012
United States1546 Posts
October 08 2012 22:57 GMT
#2589
On October 09 2012 05:52 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2012 05:31 TheSinisterRed wrote:
For example, in his Reddit AMA after the loss, Dyrus talked a bit about how he preformed in the games and it basically came down to him admitting he was not as strong of a top laner against Frost because he couldn't get away with a lot of the mistakes he usually makes. There is no one else in NA that he can play against that will punish his mistakes as well as the top teams around the world will, so he can't (or it would be very hard to) fix them. It is the same for the other lanes along with things like positioning in team fights, late game decision making, even champion selection strategies. When they are already better in those categories than anyone they practice against: 1. Mistakes will not be punished, and therefore go unnoticed. and 2. Any known mistakes will be nearly impossible to fix, because it is hard to tell the difference between stomping someone and stomping that same someone slightly harder. And that slight difference becomes much more pronounced against a top-tier team, resulting in the 0-2 TSM faced.

You could say that PDD or Caomei were in the exact same state a couple months ago--Chinese top lane play was absolutely abysmal. Caomei regularly fed first blood in lane while PDD was already quite good, there weren't exactly other Chinese server teams that had good top laners. Now look how far Chinese top lane play has come since then.

If you need to look overseas for practice, you take the ping disadvantage and do it.

If scrimming with high ping like that is still useful then yes, they should be doing it. I'm not sure if that is how the Chinese top laners got better or not because I haven't followed the Chinese scene, but if it worked for them then NA pros should be following the Chinese example.

My original point still stands that they don't have the kind of scrimming partners on the NA server to really get better. They would be slightly better off scrimming mid-tier NA teams rather than soloQ streaming all the time (which is what this topic started off as) but I don't think that would have been enough to flip the 0-2 TSM suffered.
RoyGBiv_13
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1275 Posts
October 08 2012 22:57 GMT
#2590
Even if a support plays perfectly, and your adc does well, you can lose your lane if the other adc plays perfectly. Basically, outplaying the other team as a support doesn't mean winning engagements, but rather making sure your team only engages if it will be a winning engagement. Winning the game is all the honor i need

PS: HONOR PLZ! u gib honor i report u
Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
October 08 2012 23:07 GMT
#2591
The warm fuzzy feeling I get from being honored is instantly killed when I remember that it's just another number that changes into other numbers, like elo and win rates.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
petered
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1817 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-08 23:15:27
October 08 2012 23:15 GMT
#2592
On October 09 2012 08:07 phyvo wrote:
The warm fuzzy feeling I get from being honored is instantly killed when I remember that it's just another number that changes into other numbers, like elo and win rates.


Except that it is willfully given by another person rather than won. So actually it is nothing like elo or win rates. Wait, what was your point again?
This, my friends, is the power of the Shikyo Memorial for QQ therapy thread. We make the world a better place, one chainsaw massacre prevention at a time.
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
October 08 2012 23:19 GMT
#2593
On October 09 2012 08:15 petered wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2012 08:07 phyvo wrote:
The warm fuzzy feeling I get from being honored is instantly killed when I remember that it's just another number that changes into other numbers, like elo and win rates.


Except that it is willfully given by another person rather than won. So actually it is nothing like elo or win rates. Wait, what was your point again?

That it's useless and does nothing but it makes people care for some sad reason. Much like Reddit's Karma system, gotta have them unknown people pretend to like you, it's very important.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
October 08 2012 23:23 GMT
#2594
Protip: You have a 90% chance of getting honored for teamwork simply by playing Coop vs AI.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
October 08 2012 23:34 GMT
#2595
On October 09 2012 08:19 JackDino wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2012 08:15 petered wrote:
On October 09 2012 08:07 phyvo wrote:
The warm fuzzy feeling I get from being honored is instantly killed when I remember that it's just another number that changes into other numbers, like elo and win rates.


Except that it is willfully given by another person rather than won. So actually it is nothing like elo or win rates. Wait, what was your point again?

That it's useless and does nothing but it makes people care for some sad reason. Much like Reddit's Karma system, gotta have them unknown people pretend to like you, it's very important.


Yeah how dare Riot try to make people care about others! God knows the community in this game is perfect and could never be improved!

I seriously can't believe anyone who'd be upset at a system trying to make people not act like jerks.
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
October 08 2012 23:35 GMT
#2596
On October 09 2012 08:34 Parnage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2012 08:19 JackDino wrote:
On October 09 2012 08:15 petered wrote:
On October 09 2012 08:07 phyvo wrote:
The warm fuzzy feeling I get from being honored is instantly killed when I remember that it's just another number that changes into other numbers, like elo and win rates.


Except that it is willfully given by another person rather than won. So actually it is nothing like elo or win rates. Wait, what was your point again?

That it's useless and does nothing but it makes people care for some sad reason. Much like Reddit's Karma system, gotta have them unknown people pretend to like you, it's very important.


Yeah how dare Riot try to make people care about others! God knows the community in this game is perfect and could never be improved!

I seriously can't believe anyone who'd be upset at a system trying to make people not act like jerks.

I'm not upset about it, in fact I think it's a good thing. I just think people who care so much about it are silly. Like people are panicking they're going to lose their honour if they get reported for no reason. That would be terrible, wouldn't it, losing all your hard earned honour.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
bmn
Profile Joined August 2010
886 Posts
October 08 2012 23:35 GMT
#2597
On October 09 2012 08:34 Parnage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2012 08:19 JackDino wrote:
On October 09 2012 08:15 petered wrote:
On October 09 2012 08:07 phyvo wrote:
The warm fuzzy feeling I get from being honored is instantly killed when I remember that it's just another number that changes into other numbers, like elo and win rates.


Except that it is willfully given by another person rather than won. So actually it is nothing like elo or win rates. Wait, what was your point again?

That it's useless and does nothing but it makes people care for some sad reason. Much like Reddit's Karma system, gotta have them unknown people pretend to like you, it's very important.


Yeah how dare Riot try to make people care about others! God knows the community in this game is perfect and could never be improved!

I seriously can't believe anyone who'd be upset at a system trying to make people not act like jerks.


You're playing a computer game. It all boils down to numbers. It's all arguably useless, unless you're earning your salary by playing; there's nothing wrong with caring about it.
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
October 08 2012 23:54 GMT
#2598
How do you get the rubans ? You need something like 10 vote in each honored thing ?
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
GranDim
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Canada1214 Posts
October 08 2012 23:56 GMT
#2599
On October 09 2012 08:23 Seuss wrote:
Protip: You have a 90% chance of getting honored for teamwork simply by playing Coop vs AI.


It kind of worked..

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Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
October 09 2012 00:00 GMT
#2600
I do agree that you shouldn't live or die by the honour system. It's just a number to remind you that "hey good on you for not being a dick" nothing more nothing less. Rather you like it or not things like achievement points or these honour points are not going away, gamers for whatever reason tend to like them. I am not a big fan of these "pointless points" but here Riot's done something smart and implemented a system to try and make the community better. I mean at least it's better then those stupid achievement points on battle.net or xbox live where people just try to use them to feel superior over one another.
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
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