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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
October 08 2012 20:28 GMT
#2561
On October 09 2012 05:04 Praetorial wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2012 02:51 wei2coolman wrote:
If no one has gone through them yet, I highly suggest going through all the player interview Pluto did at LoL playoffs.. Very good questions, and well thought out interviews.



I dunno why cloud templar can't stop laughing, and pretty good english.


I think he's very excited.

He actually brought a nice point about jungle being less mechanically challenging.


He seems like the happiest person in the world :D
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TheSinisterRed
Profile Joined September 2012
United States1546 Posts
October 08 2012 20:31 GMT
#2562
On October 09 2012 05:08 Doctorbeat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2012 05:00 Liquid`NonY wrote:
On October 09 2012 04:48 Mogwai wrote:
On October 09 2012 04:38 Frolossus wrote:
how would NA go about trying to fix the practice/scrim problem that scarra was talking about in his interview?

by practicing and scriming instead of streaming solo queue?

they supposed to scrim with bad teams hoping they'll get better and make it worth it at some point? or just try harder to get a full day's practice with so much less availability than KR?


I'd say that there are more mid-tier teams in NA than EU, don't know about Korea/SEA. At least more mid-tier teams that are well known. But there are a lot of promising teams out there in NA like MME.Ferus, Orbit, Legion, Team Dynamic, etc.

I'd say all those teams would be valuable practice for many NA teams, especially considering that some of them have been sweeping the floor with the top NA teams as of late. It's really not like there are no teams to practice with in NA.

Playing against those mid-tier teams isn't really fixing the problem, though. The teams may be decent, but they are nowhere near M5, WE, Frost, or the other top teams in the finals right now. And that is the caliber of team you have to play against if you want to make it to their level.

TSM is the top team NA, with few others being close if they are playing seriously. That is basically the bar for NA teams if they are scrimming against each other. TSM isn't get much out of it besides maintaining their mechanics and some practice with new compositions, but the other teams would be able to improve to the level of TSM.

For example, in his Reddit AMA after the loss, Dyrus talked a bit about how he preformed in the games and it basically came down to him admitting he was not as strong of a top laner against Frost because he couldn't get away with a lot of the mistakes he usually makes. There is no one else in NA that he can play against that will punish his mistakes as well as the top teams around the world will, so he can't (or it would be very hard to) fix them. It is the same for the other lanes along with things like positioning in team fights, late game decision making, even champion selection strategies. When they are already better in those categories than anyone they practice against: 1. Mistakes will not be punished, and therefore go unnoticed. and 2. Any known mistakes will be nearly impossible to fix, because it is hard to tell the difference between stomping someone and stomping that same someone slightly harder. And that slight difference becomes much more pronounced against a top-tier team, resulting in the 0-2 TSM faced.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
October 08 2012 20:36 GMT
#2563
On October 09 2012 05:28 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2012 05:04 Praetorial wrote:
On October 09 2012 02:51 wei2coolman wrote:
If no one has gone through them yet, I highly suggest going through all the player interview Pluto did at LoL playoffs.. Very good questions, and well thought out interviews.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMeXqrPR94E

I dunno why cloud templar can't stop laughing, and pretty good english.


I think he's very excited.

He actually brought a nice point about jungle being less mechanically challenging.


He seems like the happiest person in the world :D

He seems like he's baked thb.

I know he's not, but it really looks like it.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-08 20:46:48
October 08 2012 20:46 GMT
#2564
Do you see Eu players streaming nearly as often as NA players?It's not like EU is budding with new talented teams.
Saint is on every single night,hell,half of crs is,dyrus as well.Hotshot&co were streaming 8 hours of solo que every day a fucking week before the biggest tournament ever lol,it's mind boggling.
I can't fault people for earning money,but common,don't play it off as having no one to practice with.
Cackle™
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
October 08 2012 20:52 GMT
#2565
On October 09 2012 05:31 TheSinisterRed wrote:
For example, in his Reddit AMA after the loss, Dyrus talked a bit about how he preformed in the games and it basically came down to him admitting he was not as strong of a top laner against Frost because he couldn't get away with a lot of the mistakes he usually makes. There is no one else in NA that he can play against that will punish his mistakes as well as the top teams around the world will, so he can't (or it would be very hard to) fix them. It is the same for the other lanes along with things like positioning in team fights, late game decision making, even champion selection strategies. When they are already better in those categories than anyone they practice against: 1. Mistakes will not be punished, and therefore go unnoticed. and 2. Any known mistakes will be nearly impossible to fix, because it is hard to tell the difference between stomping someone and stomping that same someone slightly harder. And that slight difference becomes much more pronounced against a top-tier team, resulting in the 0-2 TSM faced.

You could say that PDD or Caomei were in the exact same state a couple months ago--Chinese top lane play was absolutely abysmal. Caomei regularly fed first blood in lane while PDD was already quite good, there weren't exactly other Chinese server teams that had good top laners. Now look how far Chinese top lane play has come since then.

If you need to look overseas for practice, you take the ping disadvantage and do it.
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overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
October 08 2012 20:54 GMT
#2566
On October 09 2012 05:46 TheKefka wrote:
Do you see Eu players streaming nearly as often as NA players?It's not like EU is budding with new talented teams.
Saint is on every single night,hell,half of crs is,dyrus as well.Hotshot&co were streaming 8 hours of solo que every day a fucking week before the biggest tournament ever lol,it's mind boggling.
I can't fault people for earning money,but common,don't play it off as having no one to practice with.


Only scarra has made this claim thus far though. And he and the rest of Dignitas stream a lot less than other NA teams. One of the reasons they didn't scrim Curse was because Curse streams their scrims and they didn't want that to happen.

Dig went to Korea and scrimmed every day all day there. I don't see why they would make up not being able to get scrims in NA.
Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6221 Posts
October 08 2012 20:58 GMT
#2567
Alright, I've found a good way to reward the soloQ supports. Always honor your support, they're playing arguably the least popular role and deserve it. As long as they make a good faith effort to help you lane, they're 100% worth honoring.
Terranasaur
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2085 Posts
October 08 2012 21:05 GMT
#2568
I really think they need to institute a banning phase into bot games. Annie bot OP.
Decisions Determine Destiny - Terranasaur#1719 D3 #557 SC2 3DS FC: 2423-3623-8068
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
October 08 2012 21:08 GMT
#2569
On October 09 2012 06:05 Terranasaur wrote:
I really think they need to institute a banning phase into bot games. Annie bot OP.


Lol. Annie Bot is the strongest bot. MF is so bad. Make it rain on minions every time.
Freeeeeeedom
Deleted User 101379
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
4849 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-08 21:11:50
October 08 2012 21:10 GMT
#2570
On October 09 2012 06:08 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2012 06:05 Terranasaur wrote:
I really think they need to institute a banning phase into bot games. Annie bot OP.


Lol. Annie Bot is the strongest bot. MF is so bad. Make it rain on minions every time.


I was sure about annie bot, too...
but then i played against malzahar bot a few times. That ult is soooooo annoying -.-

Though i still run away from Annie Bot every time she has the stun ready and wait for one of my teammates to get bursted down :p


On October 09 2012 05:58 Lmui wrote:
Alright, I've found a good way to reward the soloQ supports. Always honor your support, they're playing arguably the least popular role and deserve it. As long as they make a good faith effort to help you lane, they're 100% worth honoring.


If they don't mess up (too much): Friendly
If they ward properly and play well: Teamplay

My rule of thumb, though recently i get a lot of really, really bad supports that get neither from me.
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
October 08 2012 21:37 GMT
#2571
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=2656381

Everyone support 5hit, even Dyrus is fighting for him!
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
October 08 2012 21:42 GMT
#2572
I still think it should be Five Hit Combo.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
October 08 2012 21:47 GMT
#2573
Feastcombo
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17274 Posts
October 08 2012 21:47 GMT
#2574
It should be changed. Bullshit if you actually expect people to believe you didn't name it 5hit without wanting some people to read it at shit.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Nikon
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bulgaria5710 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-08 21:51:35
October 08 2012 21:49 GMT
#2575
5hitcombo or bust. It's how I've always known him. I think.
Lol, can't upvote cause of "invalid post id". OK Riot, OK.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
October 08 2012 21:50 GMT
#2576
On October 09 2012 06:47 Craton wrote:
It should be changed. Bullshit if you actually expect people to believe you didn't name it 5hit without wanting some people to read it at shit.


This.

Or you can ask for an upgrade and change it to 6hitcombo.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
October 08 2012 21:50 GMT
#2577
Just change it to Fuckcombo. Should be fine then.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
October 08 2012 21:53 GMT
#2578
On October 08 2012 19:17 spinesheath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2012 18:06 Chrispy wrote:
On October 08 2012 17:31 Sufficiency wrote:
On October 08 2012 17:16 Chrispy wrote:
All of TL must rally behind ShitCombo's cause... if you don't you're not a real American.

Chrispy Canada.



:[ You caught me.

Technically Canada is part of America. Yes I know people usually mean the USA when they say America.

However I'm fairly certain that not all of TL is North or South American...


You can argue this way, but when people say "I am an American" they mean that they are U.S. citizens/born in the U.S.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
October 08 2012 21:53 GMT
#2579
Make it 8bitcombo, lock yourself in your basement and groove all night.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 08 2012 21:54 GMT
#2580
DURR and Skarnold Trump v Yellowpete and Wickd right now.
Don't know if anyone is streaming it.....
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
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