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TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-06 17:16:51
October 06 2012 17:15 GMT
#2281
On October 07 2012 02:13 qtiehunter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2012 02:02 TheKefka wrote:
On October 07 2012 01:55 udgnim wrote:
I'm Lvl 22

when should I start considering playing Normal Draft mode?

I've played around 50 Normal Blind Picks and the people that get matched up into my games range from < 10 Normal wins to 1350 ELO.

Play them when ever you want,the only difference is that the que time is longer and the first 3 picks hog top mid and jungle.
Only thing is,you need to own 16 heros(including free rotation champions)


I thought the real issue with problem with playing normal draft pre-30 was that most people playing it have been already lvl 30 for a long time (and play normals cuz rankeds too stressful / "can't escape ELO hell so I play normals") and have full mastery pages and all the runes and hurt your lvl 22 ass too much during laning phase.

nop,if you are lvl 22 you'll get matched against people that are around that lvl.
At least that's what happens to me when I'm smurfing on NA with a lvl 16 account.
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Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17245 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-06 17:17:25
October 06 2012 17:17 GMT
#2282
They tweaked the algorithm a long time ago to favor putting sub 30s with sub 30s and 30s with 30s, but you will occasionally get 30s. That said, these are the people who are barely 30 or are very bad.
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qtiehunter
Profile Joined August 2012
1088 Posts
October 06 2012 17:20 GMT
#2283
Oh, cool :D
RIP KT.Violet
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
October 06 2012 17:37 GMT
#2284
On October 07 2012 01:38 TheSinisterRed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2012 01:27 Chexx wrote:
I think for season 3 SK(Ocelote) and TSM have the motivation to get better. If they stay true what they said in the interviews after they went out.
Maybe some of the new NA teams will raise the bar in NA, too. My bet is on TSM and SK to make a lot of progress.

TSM seems to have motivation for sure, at least according to Dyrus's post on reddit and the following ama.

http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/111092/dyrus_season_2_finals_aftermath_amaconclusions/

Edit: Also, is anyone else having problems with the league client? Just did a ranked game where it wouldn't go from champ select into the loading screen. Had to relog twice before I finally got in.


The following quote in particular gives me mixed feelings:

I will not stick to 20 different champions but only 3-4 that are the strongest in today's meta.


Throughout the post he definitely seems intent on improving, and this is a part of that. To an extent you don't want to spread yourself too thin. However, I feel as though this "I'll stick to 3-4 champions" mentality is part of what holds back team composition theory and helps propagate metas.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-06 17:46:04
October 06 2012 17:45 GMT
#2285
only when everyone plays with the same 3-4 champs
m5 plays only a few champs but they are different everyone 6 months or so lol
Bladeorade
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1898 Posts
October 06 2012 17:47 GMT
#2286
He clarified later with 8 to 12 which I think is enough champs for tourney level play
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-06 18:00:28
October 06 2012 17:47 GMT
#2287
On October 07 2012 02:37 Seuss wrote:
Throughout the post he definitely seems intent on improving, and this is a part of that. To an extent you don't want to spread yourself too thin. However, I feel as though this "I'll stick to 3-4 champions" mentality is part of what holds back team composition theory and helps propagate metas.

Personally I think what's holding back TSM as a team is their repeated attitude of copying what other people do and not finding their own style.

There's no one "meta" that's superior to the others. There are only team compositions and strategies that suit the attitudes and playstyles of a given team. What works for CLG.EU works for CLG.EU. What works for M5 works for M5. What works for Blaze works for Blaze. They all have vastly different ways of playing the game, and it's quite clear that none of them have the "right" way of playing the game.

TSM needs to get out of this mentality of emulating the last team that beat them, and find something that meshes with their own personal playstyles and attitudes. The fact that they only thing they really brought to the table this match was just copying Blaze's fast-push that beat them (and then crumbling past the point where they had no idea how to follow up) proves that they still have this flawed mindset.
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zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-06 18:34:14
October 06 2012 17:52 GMT
#2288
"The truth is Darius is not countered by Jayce, same for irelia. It heavily depends on the jungle ganks/pressure and my ability to pull or his ability to kite and judge/skillshot/ use abilities. I should of went movement speed or health regen instead of flat 15 AD. "

Seriously? If they replayed this, would he pick Darius again? It depends heavily on jungle ganks because if you don't get a kill on Jayce early, you're pretty much boned as Darius. 2v2 sort of favors Darius, but good luck getting to a point where that matters... which is pretty much exactly what happened. Any team with any sort of intelligence is going to expect Jayce to be camped early. It takes a lot less for Irelia to get ahead and leverage the situation, and once she has a lead, she can drive it home extremely hard by herself.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
October 06 2012 17:53 GMT
#2289
Why would you ever pick darius against jayce if you're at a disadvantage in the lane and darius is one of the worst teamfight bruisers o.O
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
October 06 2012 18:14 GMT
#2290
did EUW just blow up again?
Isken
Profile Joined November 2010
Korea (South)1131 Posts
October 06 2012 18:16 GMT
#2291
everything fine for me
FreshVegetables
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Finland513 Posts
October 06 2012 18:29 GMT
#2292
On October 07 2012 03:14 koreasilver wrote:
did EUW just blow up again?


I think so cause, i've been in a game for 45 minutes. People disconnecting and reconnecting in and out. I've only been able to do my trueshot barrage with a 30 second delay to push waves :D. Now minions killed their nexus but no victory screen. Only "Attempting to reconnect"
yummy tomatoes
TheSinisterRed
Profile Joined September 2012
United States1546 Posts
October 06 2012 18:35 GMT
#2293
On October 07 2012 02:52 zer0das wrote:
"The truth is Darius is not countered by Jayce, same for irelia. It heavily depends on the jungle ganks/pressure and my ability to pull or his ability to kite and judge/skillshot/ use abilities. I should of went movement speed or health regen instead of flat 15 AD. "

Seriously? If they replayed this, would he pick Darius again? It depends heavily on jungle ganks because if you don't get a kill on Jayce early, you're pretty much boned as Darius. 2v2 sort of favors Darius, but good luck getting to a point where that matters... which is pretty much exactly what happened. Any team with any sort of intelligence is going to expect Jayce to be camped early.

I'm sure he would pick Daruis again, only go with different quints. If you actually watched the game he was going even against Jayce in cs until he died to a gank. It was only after that that Jayce pulled ahead. From the game and the fact that two pro top laners have said it works I tend to agree with him.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-06 18:59:11
October 06 2012 18:58 GMT
#2294
I usually jungle mao/nunu/shyvana/jarman but it seems like I need something more.What would you guys recommend out of all the scar/lee/noct etc.Really torn on what should I get to carry dem newbiez.
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
October 06 2012 19:05 GMT
#2295
On October 07 2012 03:29 FreshVegetables wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2012 03:14 koreasilver wrote:
did EUW just blow up again?


I think so cause, i've been in a game for 45 minutes. People disconnecting and reconnecting in and out. I've only been able to do my trueshot barrage with a 30 second delay to push waves :D. Now minions killed their nexus but no victory screen. Only "Attempting to reconnect"

Yeah, I tried to reconnect and it just kept black screening. My team was winning really hard too. Oh well.
Zhiroo
Profile Joined February 2011
Kosovo2724 Posts
October 06 2012 19:22 GMT
#2296
Let's go World Elite!
LoL EuW: Zhiroo - By starting this squabble you've proven nothing but how vast your stupidity is.
IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
October 06 2012 20:43 GMT
#2297
What's the best item to get on corki after Tri force?
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
October 06 2012 20:50 GMT
#2298
bloodthirster, infinity edge, last whisper, and phantom dancer each have their respective place on corki, immediately before or after TF
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
October 06 2012 20:50 GMT
#2299
LW is more and more seen as the best follow-up, since it gives as much or more dps than a BT depending on the enemy armor, for cheaper. You can still sit on your vamp scepter if you need.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
October 06 2012 20:52 GMT
#2300
On October 07 2012 05:43 IMoperator wrote:
What's the best item to get on corki after Tri force?

Depends on the game. Usually one of IE, LW, BT, GA, QSS.
If you are safe enough and want huge damage, it's IE or LW depending on the Armor of the enemy that is the most trouble for you.
If you need to be slightly safer, but aren't in danger of getting bursted down, BT.
QSS if all you have to fear is one big CC.
GA if you need to survive burst that will come your way.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
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