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Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
September 17 2012 12:10 GMT
#1481
Singed pick from IM

Don't see him often anymore, should be fun to have the troll laugh again.
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
September 17 2012 12:38 GMT
#1482
TPA will win the 3rd game. seems like they are finally awake
WriterFollow me @TL_Chexx
Haasts
Profile Joined October 2011
New Zealand4445 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-17 12:41:21
September 17 2012 12:40 GMT
#1483
TPA take their first game of the set with Toyz's terror Orianna; Mistake seems a lot better playing Blitzcrank than playing against him.
PaniaoftheReef in Path of Exile TotA SSF SC // Lovelin fanclub // GreenTea #1
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 17 2012 12:46 GMT
#1484
Things for Req to improve on in ranked:

- Determining when I can go in for a kill as opposed to just trading. (Especially on Mids and ADs)
- Knowing how far pushed is too far on certain champs (Darius top is an obvious one)
- Actually picking what's useful for a team comp (Not every team needs Nunu top)
- Varying builds based on lane situation (not blindly building the same thing regardless of situation)

Any tips on any of these, or do they all just come from experience?
It's your boy Guzma!
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
September 17 2012 12:51 GMT
#1485
I'd say the first and third point mostly come down to experience (the third one could be "learnt", but there's simply too many combinations), at least I know when my Irelia play peaked it was all from playing mostly her top and learning from mistakes, playing by hear rather than guides.
The "varying builds" could easily be narrowed down if you don't play too many champs, seeing how the most affected lane is top (and somewhat jungle depending on who you play). Depends on who you play too, casters tend to have much more restricted build paths than straight up bruisers.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23404 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-17 12:54:27
September 17 2012 12:53 GMT
#1486
1, 2 and 4 are basically just mental simulation//math and 3 doesn't matter that much but should be pretty obvious nunu is a kiting/poking type and if you have diving types don't pick nunu.

Experience alone doesn't teach you anything unless you specifically know what you're trying to do and use opportunities to test what you are thinking in theory.
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
September 17 2012 13:00 GMT
#1487
Bans
LG-IM: Yorik, Gragas and Orianna
TPA: Irelia, Ezreal and Shen
Picks
LG-IM: Vladimir, Udyr, Janna, Graves and Morgana
TPA: Nocturne, Lulu, Corki, Jax and Karthus
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
September 17 2012 13:02 GMT
#1488
K so, finally had a successful game with Syndra last night.

Was a normal with gandhi, crouton, monte, and a random, so that certainly helped. Was going W>E>Q, and I actually felt decently strong. I'm starting to get a hang of E stun.
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
September 17 2012 13:16 GMT
#1489
On September 17 2012 22:02 jcarlsoniv wrote:
K so, finally had a successful game with Syndra last night.

Was a normal with gandhi, crouton, monte, and a random, so that certainly helped. Was going W>E>Q, and I actually felt decently strong. I'm starting to get a hang of E stun.

Is there anything she does better than popular APs? I feel like she's a fun champion, but she just isn't GREAT at anything.
currently rooting for myself.
ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
September 17 2012 13:21 GMT
#1490
On September 17 2012 22:16 Shiv. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2012 22:02 jcarlsoniv wrote:
K so, finally had a successful game with Syndra last night.

Was a normal with gandhi, crouton, monte, and a random, so that certainly helped. Was going W>E>Q, and I actually felt decently strong. I'm starting to get a hang of E stun.

Is there anything she does better than popular APs? I feel like she's a fun champion, but she just isn't GREAT at anything.


I guess shes pretty good at making people that play her rage alot... Shes pretty hard to proper master and I expect a buff in the future (tho not a big one or very soon)
KCCO!
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 17 2012 13:23 GMT
#1491
On September 17 2012 21:53 Slayer91 wrote:
1, 2 and 4 are basically just mental simulation//math and 3 doesn't matter that much but should be pretty obvious nunu is a kiting/poking type and if you have diving types don't pick nunu.

Experience alone doesn't teach you anything unless you specifically know what you're trying to do and use opportunities to test what you are thinking in theory.


Probably true. That plus listening to my own advice, so many times I've thought (or even said on Vent) "Too scary, way far forward, I'm going to get ganked, need to back off", and then 5 seconds later I don't back off, get ganked, and die. Bleh.
It's your boy Guzma!
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
September 17 2012 13:34 GMT
#1492
On September 17 2012 22:02 jcarlsoniv wrote:
K so, finally had a successful game with Syndra last night.

Was a normal with gandhi, crouton, monte, and a random, so that certainly helped. Was going W>E>Q, and I actually felt decently strong. I'm starting to get a hang of E stun.

Felt strong cause giant KSer, imo.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-17 13:47:45
September 17 2012 13:41 GMT
#1493
Did he give fb then carry? Strong indicator of champs Soniv is comfortable with imo.

Udyr, Morgana and Janna's shields, Vlad's pool... IG has no qualms about Karthus' ult this game.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
September 17 2012 13:55 GMT
#1494
On September 17 2012 22:16 Shiv. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2012 22:02 jcarlsoniv wrote:
K so, finally had a successful game with Syndra last night.

Was a normal with gandhi, crouton, monte, and a random, so that certainly helped. Was going W>E>Q, and I actually felt decently strong. I'm starting to get a hang of E stun.

Is there anything she does better than popular APs? I feel like she's a fun champion, but she just isn't GREAT at anything.


Not really that I've seen, which is sad, because yes, she's very fun. Picking up buffs is one of my favorite things in the game.
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
Keniji
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands2569 Posts
September 17 2012 13:56 GMT
#1495
On September 17 2012 22:23 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2012 21:53 Slayer91 wrote:
1, 2 and 4 are basically just mental simulation//math and 3 doesn't matter that much but should be pretty obvious nunu is a kiting/poking type and if you have diving types don't pick nunu.

Experience alone doesn't teach you anything unless you specifically know what you're trying to do and use opportunities to test what you are thinking in theory.


Probably true. That plus listening to my own advice, so many times I've thought (or even said on Vent) "Too scary, way far forward, I'm going to get ganked, need to back off", and then 5 seconds later I don't back off, get ganked, and die. Bleh.


One of the worst feelings in LoL when you think "I am way overextended, have to back off" and greedy for cs you stay little longer and die to a gank.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
September 17 2012 13:57 GMT
#1496
On September 17 2012 22:41 Alaric wrote:
Did he give fb then carry? Strong indicator of champs Soniv is comfortable with imo.

Udyr, Morgana and Janna's shields, Vlad's pool... IG has no qualms about Karthus' ult this game.

The pub carried him.
twitch.tv/cratonz
h3r1n6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Iceland2039 Posts
September 17 2012 14:07 GMT
#1497
Right now I just wish Syndras orbs would give you vision.
Deleted User 101379
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
4849 Posts
September 17 2012 14:11 GMT
#1498
I'm probably the wrong person to answer that, but watching a lot of games i noticed some patterns:

- Determining when I can go in for a kill as opposed to just trading. (Especially on Mids and ADs)


Requires experience. Lots of experience.

You have to know how the matchups scale. If you lose trades early, that doesn't mean a few levels later you can't completely destroy your opponent. Try it, if it fails, don't try it again next time you are in that matchup-

- Knowing how far pushed is too far on certain champs (Darius top is an obvious one)

Requires knowing jungler paths and strengths. Focus on learning the jungle routes and having map awareness.
Also, experience. Lots of experience.

- Actually picking what's useful for a team comp (Not every team needs Nunu top)

Look at the team composition and check what is missing and what you could add. Obvious holes are for example:
- No initiation
- No champ that can shutdown their ad carry
- No CC to protect your ad carry
- No AoE
- No poke abilities

If the team has no initiation, picking someone like nunu doesn't help the team even if you win the lane by a lot. The first move in teamfights will always be on their side. Also, if you don't have CC to keep the opponent away from your carry, the enemy team will just kill him and keep you away from their AD with their CC, so someone like Nunu would be great in that situation.

Also, experience. Lots of experience.

- Varying builds based on lane situation (not blindly building the same thing regardless of situation)


If you are significantly behind in farm and don't outscale the opponent, get a Gp10 to keep up in the long term.
Check the Item builds for who in their team actually does the real damage. The underfarmed AD carry with a B.F. sword will be less dangerous than the LeBlanc with DFG and Deathcap.
Get your defensive item accordingly and don't hesitate to get parts of them early before finishing some of your core items.
If you need that defense early because you get harassed all the time, get it even when your oh-so-important Trinity Force gets delayed by a few CS. It will let you farm more safely and lets you get more CS in the longer term, even if one of your items is slightly delayed. I regularly see people get for example a chainmail quite early when an enemy champion starts to snowball and then later it gets turned into a Guardian Angel or such. Ending up on the wrong side of a snowball is worse than delaying one of your items.
Don't be afraid to sell something when it lived past it's use. For example against some top lanes you might want to get ninja tabi to win the lane more easily and once you got past that stage, you can sell those for Merc Treads. The CS you got more from winning the lane through having the ninja tabi early can outweight the lost gold from selling them.
Always consider how much more CS you can get if you get item X now vs waiting for item Y. If something helps you get more CS it pays for itself fairly quickly. However, it's always situational.

Also, experience. Lots of experience.
Deleted User 101379
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
4849 Posts
September 17 2012 14:13 GMT
#1499
On September 17 2012 22:56 Keniji wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2012 22:23 Requizen wrote:
On September 17 2012 21:53 Slayer91 wrote:
1, 2 and 4 are basically just mental simulation//math and 3 doesn't matter that much but should be pretty obvious nunu is a kiting/poking type and if you have diving types don't pick nunu.

Experience alone doesn't teach you anything unless you specifically know what you're trying to do and use opportunities to test what you are thinking in theory.


Probably true. That plus listening to my own advice, so many times I've thought (or even said on Vent) "Too scary, way far forward, I'm going to get ganked, need to back off", and then 5 seconds later I don't back off, get ganked, and die. Bleh.


One of the worst feelings in LoL when you think "I am way overextended, have to back off" and greedy for cs you stay little longer and die to a gank.


That "Just one more wave" kills more people than doublelift does in ARAMs...
ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
September 17 2012 14:24 GMT
#1500
On September 17 2012 23:13 Morfildur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2012 22:56 Keniji wrote:
On September 17 2012 22:23 Requizen wrote:
On September 17 2012 21:53 Slayer91 wrote:
1, 2 and 4 are basically just mental simulation//math and 3 doesn't matter that much but should be pretty obvious nunu is a kiting/poking type and if you have diving types don't pick nunu.

Experience alone doesn't teach you anything unless you specifically know what you're trying to do and use opportunities to test what you are thinking in theory.


Probably true. That plus listening to my own advice, so many times I've thought (or even said on Vent) "Too scary, way far forward, I'm going to get ganked, need to back off", and then 5 seconds later I don't back off, get ganked, and die. Bleh.


One of the worst feelings in LoL when you think "I am way overextended, have to back off" and greedy for cs you stay little longer and die to a gank.


That "Just one more wave" kills more people than doublelift does in ARAMs...


Dont get me started. Or the 'i can teleport in this brush, theres no need to teleport 5 feet further at the safety of my tower'
KCCO!
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