EPT[Patch 1.0.0.147: Syndra] General Discussion - Page 121
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Nos-
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Sufficiency
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barbsq
United States5348 Posts
he pretty much has to dominate the laning phase to stay relevant in the end game tho. All the dravens I ever see either go like 15/5 or just faceplant into the ground. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On September 20 2012 14:44 barbsq wrote: pretty sure draven squashes just about every adc in lane. He's kinda like the new cait in that respect. he pretty much has to dominate the laning phase to stay relevant in the end game tho. All the dravens I ever see either go like 15/5 or just faceplant into the ground. Well, I feel that Draven is at least somewhat manageable as Caitlyn and Ezreal. As MF my trade has the same range as his, so it was a nightmare lane for me. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On September 20 2012 13:45 gtrsrs wrote: for the record, because a lot of people seem to get confused roaming was never "nerfed" people just started buying more wards taric was nerfed because of his lane strength. his ability to roam has not been changed in the slightest - in fact it's only within the past year or so that people have actively bought wards to counter roaming Alistar and Taric got a half second off their stuns. Eve got her stun entirely replaced. That's fairly significant. The efficacy of Jungle Alistar in recent months speaks to how effective he could have remained as a roamer had they chose to not remake him. If "better warding" alone shut down roaming ganking effectiveness, then why is it that jungle Alistar was able to reach permaban status when his farming capability is quite sub-par and he functions quite similarly to how he would have as a roamer? | ||
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Perplex
United States1693 Posts
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On September 20 2012 15:17 Perplex wrote: Refunded pulsefire ez.. chillin at 2k RP, I think i'm set forever now I really feel that Riot's move on the refund thing was a mistake. I think they just lost a LOT of money. | ||
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jadoth
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On September 20 2012 14:21 nyxnyxnyx wrote: eve is just really ugly imoimoimo. she's all sexual while still being really ugly super offtopic, but if anyone here is a calculus god PLEASE help me out. have an assignment due tomorrow and i'm unranked in calculus. link if anyone's interested will reciprocate with anything short of a bj I will edit as a do more. 4. a. y'= 1/2 * 1/cos x + sin^2 x/cos^3 x + 1/4 * 1/tan (x/2 + pi/4) * 1/cos^2 (x/2 + pi/4) y'(pi/4)=(√2)/2 +√2 + (√3)/3=2.69867..... b. x'= (- t^4 - 4t^3 + 2t + 2)/(t^3+1)^2 y'= (t^4 - 4t^3 - 2t + 2)/(t^3+1)^2 x'(1)= - 1/4 y'(1)= - 3/4 y'/x' = 3 x(1)= 3/2 y(1)= 1/2 tangent line is y=3x - 4 normal line is y= - 1/3 x + 1 5. a. y'= 1/(x^2 + 1) b. y'= 2 sin x cos x 1. a. x>or=0 b. - .43990 <or= x >or= 3.6597... c. x<-4 -3<x<or=-2 -1<or=x<or=1 2<or=x<3 x>4 2. a. factors to (x-2)^2 * (x+2) / (x-2)^2 * (x+2)^2 = 1/(x+2) so the limit = 1/4 b. limit = 20 because that is the ratio of the highest power terms and they are both to the same power | ||
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Perplex
United States1693 Posts
On September 20 2012 15:30 Sufficiency wrote: I really feel that Riot's move on the refund thing was a mistake. I think they just lost a LOT of money. They should have waited until 91 days after PFE's release to roll this thing out imo. They probably made million(s) off of people who impulse-bought PFE while it was at "discount price". | ||
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TheKefka
Croatia11752 Posts
On September 20 2012 15:30 Sufficiency wrote: I really feel that Riot's move on the refund thing was a mistake. I think they just lost a LOT of money. er....no?They are giving you back a virtual currency that you paid for already,it's not like the are refunding real money back right?Unless I'm missing something and they are refunding money that you spent on riot points. | ||
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ViZe
United States1513 Posts
What kind of human being tells students not to use L'Hopital's on a limit? That's like telling a starcraft player not to use hotkeys | ||
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Perplex
United States1693 Posts
On September 20 2012 15:38 TheKefka wrote: er....no?They are giving you back a virtual currency that you paid for already,it's not like the are refunding real money back right?Unless I'm missing something and they are refunding money that you spent on riot points. No, but they're still effectively losing money. Say you wanted to buy the new champ Khazikstan, but you didn't have enough RP. Well then in that case you'd probably buy some RP and unlock him. However, with this new feature, you can just refund some old skin you don't want anymore and then get the new champ. Just like that, riot loses out on $10. Economics 101 yo. | ||
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TheKefka
Croatia11752 Posts
I really doubt this hurts them much...makes people happy and goes along with their image of a community friendly company. | ||
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arb
Noobville17922 Posts
On September 20 2012 15:48 TheKefka wrote: Right...but they still have the initial money you paid to get the rp and it's not like you can infinitely recycle Rp for new stuff you want to get,isn't there a 3 time refund limit or something like that? I really doubt this hurts them much...makes people happy and goes along with their image of a community friendly company. you still paid 10$ or whatever, it isnt hurting them at all. they keep the money regardless. its not like they're like, HEY USE THIS AND WE'LL GIVE YOU YOUR MONEY BACK. you dont get keep what your refund | ||
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TheKefka
Croatia11752 Posts
And it's not like everyone is going to start refunding their old skins or w/e,people bought them for a reason obviously. This only protects idiot impulse buyers that don't know what to do with their money anyways. | ||
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Perplex
United States1693 Posts
On September 20 2012 15:48 TheKefka wrote: Right...but they still have the initial money you paid to get the rp and it's not like you can infinitely recycle Rp for new stuff you want to get,isn't there a 3 time refund limit or something like that? I really doubt this hurts them much...makes people happy and goes along with their image of a community friendly company. Overall it's a good business move for them. They can certainly afford to take a tiny hit in revenue at the cost of promoting their "community friendly image", but arguing that they aren't actually taking a hit as a result of this is pigheaded. | ||
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overt
United States9006 Posts
On September 20 2012 15:43 Perplex wrote: No, but they're still effectively losing money. Say you wanted to buy the new champ Khazikstan, but you didn't have enough RP. Well then in that case you'd probably buy some RP and unlock him. However, with this new feature, you can just refund some old skin you don't want anymore and then get the new champ. Just like that, riot loses out on $10. Economics 101 yo. Some old skin that's less than 90 days old. Riot's not losing money on this. If anything they're keeping their core player base happy. I'll probably buy more RP before I'll use my refund tokens as there's nothing on my account that I want to get rid of. I'd imagine lots of people are in the same boat especially since refund tokens are so limited. It's really really difficult to argue that a company is losing 'effective sales.' There's no way of knowing in your example if someone would've paid actual money to get Kha'Zix in the first place. Maybe if they didn't have the refund option that person would just grind IP and get it a week later. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On September 20 2012 16:05 overt wrote: Some old skin that's less than 90 days old. Riot's not losing money on this. If anything they're keeping their core player base happy. I'll probably buy more RP before I'll use my refund tokens as there's nothing on my account that I want to get rid of. I'd imagine lots of people are in the same boat especially since refund tokens are so limited. It's really really difficult to argue that a company is losing 'effective sales.' There's no way of knowing in your example if someone would've paid actual money to get Kha'Zix in the first place. Maybe if they didn't have the refund option that person would just grind IP and get it a week later. I don't know. The refund feature was not that profound beside saving players RP - sure that makes some players happy, but it's not the right way to do it. | ||
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arb
Noobville17922 Posts
On September 20 2012 16:04 Perplex wrote: Overall it's a good business move for them. They can certainly afford to take a tiny hit in revenue at the cost of promoting their "community friendly image", but arguing that they aren't actually taking a hit as a result of this is pigheaded. but they arent losing money at all | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
Lets say I bought diablo 3, disliked it, and want a refund and use the money to buy HOTS that I'd have bought anyway. They just lost the amount I'd have spent on HOTS right? | ||
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