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Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
September 20 2012 07:18 GMT
#2421
Outside of making refunds more convenient for everyone and gaining community rep, Riot stands to save a lot of money by not having to field so many refund requests from the playerbase. It's the same not-so-secret benefit of the Tribunal, for a limited R&D cost Riot saves a lot of time, effort, and money.

Riot isn't stupid. I guarantee you someone did the math and even with three refund tokens potentially guzzling $30 a player they stand to save more money than they lose. The Tribunal and the new Refund system are the ultimate real life gp10s.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
September 20 2012 07:30 GMT
#2422
On September 20 2012 14:42 Nos- wrote:
I just got 6300 ip, not sure what to get. Thinking of either Vayne/Graves/Leona, thoughts?


Leona is the coolest champ in the game. Always get Leona.
Remember Violet.
chalice
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1945 Posts
September 20 2012 07:45 GMT
#2423
On September 20 2012 16:18 Seuss wrote:
Outside of making refunds more convenient for everyone and gaining community rep, Riot stands to save a lot of money by not having to field so many refund requests from the playerbase. It's the same not-so-secret benefit of the Tribunal, for a limited R&D cost Riot saves a lot of time, effort, and money.

Riot isn't stupid. I guarantee you someone did the math and even with three refund tokens potentially guzzling $30 a player they stand to save more money than they lose. The Tribunal and the new Refund system are the ultimate real life gp10s.

yeah any negative effect on their bottom line by processing more automated refunds is probably made up for in customer service rep wages saved.
Deleted User 101379
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
4849 Posts
September 20 2012 07:48 GMT
#2424
On September 20 2012 16:18 Shikyo wrote:
Um they definitely are taking a hit for this.

Lets say I bought diablo 3, disliked it, and want a refund and use the money to buy HOTS that I'd have bought anyway. They just lost the amount I'd have spent on HOTS right?


While that is true, it's not true in market terms.

1. Many people would either buy more or don't buy any RP afterwards anyways, independent of wether they get a small amount back from refunds, so the "hit" is already a lot smaller than you might expect.
2. Most people won't actually use refunds.
3. They trade in digital goods, they already made a huge margin on your initial purchase.

The actual "hit" they are taking is completely negligible for them. Yes, they might make 0.1% less money but it's not like they have to fire even a single intern due to that.
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
September 20 2012 08:10 GMT
#2425
But riot still has your money since you already traded cash for RP. It doesn't matter if you spend it on skins, or keep it on your account. And why should they care if you buy more RP, if you're going to spend your RP there is nothing they can do to control that. There is no difference between not buying rp, not spending rp, and getting a refund. The most they can create is desire, and with expanding content, there will always be more desire. This isn't like where you're trading in used games so you get to play every single one without actually buying them.
Twinmold
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden238 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-20 08:32:52
September 20 2012 08:27 GMT
#2426
On September 20 2012 16:30 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2012 14:42 Nos- wrote:
I just got 6300 ip, not sure what to get. Thinking of either Vayne/Graves/Leona, thoughts?


Leona is the coolest champ in the game. Always get Leona.

Seconded.
SC / LoL / DotA // Twinmold took a moment for himself. He never gave it back.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
September 20 2012 09:27 GMT
#2427
that tasted purple
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
September 20 2012 09:37 GMT
#2428
On September 20 2012 16:18 Shikyo wrote:
Um they definitely are taking a hit for this.

Lets say I bought diablo 3, disliked it, and want a refund and use the money to buy HOTS that I'd have bought anyway. They just lost the amount I'd have spent on HOTS right?

Now imagine that HOTS is released every month
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
September 20 2012 10:10 GMT
#2429
http://nicegame.tv/new/

Battle Royal! LG-IM vs. iG best of 5
WriterFollow me @TL_Chexx
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
September 20 2012 10:17 GMT
#2430
On September 20 2012 18:37 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2012 16:18 Shikyo wrote:
Um they definitely are taking a hit for this.

Lets say I bought diablo 3, disliked it, and want a refund and use the money to buy HOTS that I'd have bought anyway. They just lost the amount I'd have spent on HOTS right?

Now imagine that HOTS is released every month


Now imagine that you are surrounded by a luminous mist of relaxation and well-being. Mentally give this mist a red color (different colors may subtly influence different effects for different people at different times) and a warm comforting emotional feeling.

Next, begin a cycle of five deep and slow breaths. As you inhale this relaxing mist and hold the breath for a slow count of five, imagine it filling your head, neck, and shoulders and soaking deeply into every pore and fiber of your head, neck, and shoulders.

As you breathe out, imagine exhaling all of your physical tensions, thoughts, cares, or mental dullness that may be stored in this region of your body. Imagine exhaling any physical, emotional, or mental disease as smoke or fog being flushed completely out of your body by this luminous relaxing mist. Imagine this fog or smoke dissolving completely into the space around you.
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
September 20 2012 10:19 GMT
#2431
lolwat
nice
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
September 20 2012 10:25 GMT
#2432
Bans
LG-IM: Sona, Jayce and Yorik
iG: Malphite, Vladimir and Shen

Picks
LG-IM: Ezreal, Maokai, Leona, Jax and Orianna
iG: Skarner, Corki, Alistar, Jarvan and Eve

Eve pick for iG!!
WriterFollow me @TL_Chexx
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
September 20 2012 10:29 GMT
#2433
link plzzz?
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
Nebula
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
England780 Posts
September 20 2012 10:30 GMT
#2434
It's on twitch.tv
<3
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-20 10:33:28
September 20 2012 10:31 GMT
#2435
On September 20 2012 19:29 OutlaW- wrote:
link plzzz?


WTF its on the same page three posts above yours Oo

LG-IM invades and catches alistar and scores first blood.

With the money loss discussion. I took one course in economics but in my understanding. Riot did not lose money, because you still have RP and you do not get the RP back. They maybe will get less money in the future but they did not lose any. But that you cant measure excactly its only guesses.
I would trade the image for the money

Am I wrong?
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Celial
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
2602 Posts
September 20 2012 10:48 GMT
#2436
Why are so many people refunding their PFE? Don't you like the skin?
Do not regret. Always forward, never back.
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
September 20 2012 10:49 GMT
#2437
Lol, just refunded Kat and Amumu, bought brand, played two games and couldn't stand his unreliable ult/CD's, refunded him.....really thought i'd like him but I do not.

I'll just get pro with syndra and rape face when she is overbuffed
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
September 20 2012 10:51 GMT
#2438
iG Eve always nearly kills ezreal but he slips away with little hp ^^ but her burst is huge
WriterFollow me @TL_Chexx
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
September 20 2012 10:59 GMT
#2439
On September 20 2012 19:48 Celial wrote:
Why are so many people refunding their PFE? Don't you like the skin?


I thought of refunding it although my main champ is ezreal, simply because the AA animation feels weird to me, the Q animation feels slower and the most annoying thing is that sometimes the gold isnt displayed although you hit the cs^^ but Im gonna keep it from now on. Explorer Ezreal OP, too bad I didnt play when there was striker ezreal.
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
September 20 2012 11:02 GMT
#2440
I will never refund my scarlet hammer poppy skin.
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
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