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Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22610 Posts
September 19 2012 11:58 GMT
#2081
It had a 1.0 AP ratio but is/will be hotfixed to 0.8
Its a "problem" riot has had with other champions aswell. They add random ratios to stuff with no though to it (there is even an interview with the creator of Rengar saying he just slapped it on with no thought.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
September 19 2012 12:00 GMT
#2082
On September 19 2012 20:56 little fancy wrote:
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On September 19 2012 20:52 Chexx wrote:
a lot of burst with his w because he can cast it two times when he uses his skills right.


Well, if his double W burst justifies building him AP there is probably something wrong with his design / numbers, right? As I said, I seem to be pretty late to the party, that's why I'm asking.


Anyways, thanks for the fast answers!


thats why he will be addressed in the next patch!
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valheru
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia966 Posts
September 19 2012 12:35 GMT
#2083
So maxing E versus maxing W on blitz second? I think that the reduced on E is worth the additional ms you get from W since you have ENOUGH ms to make the hooks and the reduced cd on E makes you more useful in teamfights.
I reject your reality and substitute my own
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-19 12:39:29
September 19 2012 12:39 GMT
#2084
had a moderately bad game on swain, our corki gets really fed. Their 8-0 rengar(from top lane -_-) jumps on me instead of him, i go golden with hourglass and he dies, then they surrende ras we push down the inhib.

golden bird op, quite convinced swain is a really really strong hero atm
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
September 19 2012 12:46 GMT
#2085
On September 19 2012 20:24 WhiteDog wrote:
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On September 19 2012 19:45 Doctorbeat wrote:
Just went to do a bit of Tribunal.

The court case numbers were 250k>. Seriously, 250.000 accounts with shit attitude, no wonder this game is known for it's piss poor community (in general, I think the TL crowd is damn fine compared to r/lol or god forbid the forums).

Ugh and I get so annoyed that I don't get to put marks on other people in those games. There was one guy who didn't even make that much of a fuss (the general noobs easy, don't feed retards, still punish worthy), and in the same game was his ally spamming stuff like 'Your mom suck my dick'. I would love for Riot to be even stricter with bans. I mean, you get a second chance, but if you screw that up, it's permaban for you. And if you screw up a second account, IP ban.

Being perma banned because you insulted someone is ridiculous. People can get mad, that's part of humanity, and they still pay for the game and the content.

Who gives a shit what they pay? You don't get to be a giant asshole just because you bought RP. Stop being a dick or get forcibly removed. It's not hard.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
September 19 2012 12:52 GMT
#2086
On September 19 2012 21:39 arb wrote:
had a moderately bad game on swain, our corki gets really fed. Their 8-0 rengar(from top lane -_-) jumps on me instead of him, i go golden with hourglass and he dies, then they surrende ras we push down the inhib.

golden bird op, quite convinced swain is a really really strong hero atm

He's one of those champions where I don't get why they're not played more often in soloQ. If he gets ahead just a little, he's DISGUSTINGLY hard to deal with, and it's so easy to get ahead on him. He also seems like a decent pick against the currently omnipresent Gragas. I don't know man.
currently rooting for myself.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
September 19 2012 12:55 GMT
#2087
damn just played a game with the new MF and the ult activation time is really significant, pair her with nunu and you got a op harass lane, felt really strong and we rolled a ezreal taric lane. granted it was only 1400 elo because im currently boosting my smurfaccount to get that janna skin, but it it should still be pretty good when I play on my main @ 1900.

My 3 bans atm are Rengar, Jayce and shen... jayce and shen are just annoying and havent played any rengar myself since release but watching diamondprox owning everything with it is scary and apparently he got buffed this patch?
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 19 2012 13:03 GMT
#2088
On September 19 2012 16:27 tobi9999 wrote:
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On September 19 2012 16:08 VirgilSC2 wrote:
Can someone please tell me the secret to ranked?

I literally just played probably one of the best games of my life and we still weren't even close to winning.


if you're best game doesn't win the game then you probably belong at lower elo dude :S
i've played hundreds of smurf games and i've only lost like 1 or 2 where I had to afk for a couple of minutes. If you play AD carries especially no matter how grim things are looking you can usually win. (I played a game at 1400 where I did poorly and then the enemy team had a legendary karthus, legendary vayne, and top lane legendary garen where we still pulled a win because I had superior mechanics and game knowledge later on)

I'm a bit late on this, but it's so, so wrong. As LoL is a team game, one or two players cannot force a win out of an unwinnable situation.

+ Show Spoiler [Spoiled for QQ, but example] +
Last night I had a game as jungle Hec. Mid Ryze feeds Annie like crazy (to the tune of 0-4-0 by 10 minutes, worse from there), has horrid CS, and has no map awareness. I get ~3 ganks top on Shen, shutting him down for the early/mid game thankfully, but our top Yorick D/Cs around 15 minutes in and never comes back. Zilean support steals kills with bombs and dies in nearly every trade anyway, letting the enemy Ezreal go legendary before a tower goes down.

Meanwhile, Sivir is completely ruining every single enemy in a 1v1 and I get a kill or flash in every gank I pull off, or save a life with a countergank. Every time there's a teamfight, either me or her will get a double or better and clean up, but with Yorick afk and Ryze completely useless (literally, he had half the farm of any non-support and died instantly in any fight), we'd still go even or better in every engagement, but 3v5 can't stop them from just winning by sheer numbers and pushing power.


Shit sucks, but there are such things as unwinnable games. Occasionally you get unlucky and get a bunch in a row, even if you're playing the best you can all day.
It's your boy Guzma!
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
September 19 2012 13:13 GMT
#2089
Totally off topic: just open Twitch.tv for some LoL stream then I see AOE:ROR(Age of Empire) has more viewers than LoL atm. Lol, who still play this game nowadays, and it turns out that there are 15k people watching AOE O_O
Terran
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-19 13:15:58
September 19 2012 13:15 GMT
#2090
it's actually just 1 stream, a friendly match between Vietnam and China, maybe just a special occasion and people like to rewatch a loved game of their childhood, because AoE was a pretty fucking awesome game.
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
September 19 2012 13:18 GMT
#2091
On September 19 2012 18:45 Slayer91 wrote:
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On September 19 2012 12:20 gtrsrs wrote:
on a related but still completely true note, when i started the game, soraka's ult had a 2.0 AP ratio, healed 100-150 more base heal, and had like 30s shorter cd at all levels.

and she was considered a trash tier champ h4h4h4


Remember we did a TL drafts thing with this guy vs TL.
and I made a huge post about why to first pick soraka
and everyones ignores me and is like nah dude soraka sucks
lets pick taric xin bot
pre buffed taric btw


that was shikyo not me
and holy shit, that wasn't pre-BUFFED taric that was pre-NERFED taric oh my god, i forgot about pre-nerfed taric
cannot believe i slept on taric for so long when he had like 5.0 AP ratios and dazzle was a 2s stun and he had his old good ult. man taric is such a beast, so outrageous. i finally got talked into playing pure AP taric (by shake/ezpz?) bot lane, with mpen reds AP rest, d-ring start. dazzle shatter would do like... 350 hp at level 2. was insanity. i cheesed so many games

i hope for season 3 that riot just kicks every champs power level up to 10 instead of bringing down everyone to a 5. so much more fun when ever champ gave you a reason to cry "wah wah OP" in all-chat
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
September 19 2012 13:21 GMT
#2092
On September 19 2012 21:52 Shiv. wrote:
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On September 19 2012 21:39 arb wrote:
had a moderately bad game on swain, our corki gets really fed. Their 8-0 rengar(from top lane -_-) jumps on me instead of him, i go golden with hourglass and he dies, then they surrende ras we push down the inhib.

golden bird op, quite convinced swain is a really really strong hero atm

He's one of those champions where I don't get why they're not played more often in soloQ. If he gets ahead just a little, he's DISGUSTINGLY hard to deal with, and it's so easy to get ahead on him. He also seems like a decent pick against the currently omnipresent Gragas. I don't know man.

I feel like the slightest lead will snowball you hard yeah,if they play like a bitch you can zone the shit out of them, anytime they come near you when youre ahead they just melt to it, and a q + snare and its like lol gg. then when youre like 50-0 in teamfights you just turn into a bird and always caw never die.
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
September 19 2012 13:23 GMT
#2093
There are some unwinnable games but methinks there aren't as many as most people think (saying "this game was unwinnable" is an easy ego-protective way for people to justify a loss)

Last night I played a game where we started off poorly, 13-28 kills, losing two dragons. Our rumble started bitching at how our team was retarded and it was impossible to win these games, but our mid was like "no we can still win" (while being like 0/5). Probably wouldn't have worked normally, but then I pointed out we had amumu, orianna, and sona, and we could probably turn it around if we get all our AOEs together. Turns out that's exactly what happens (lock down the entire enemy team forever lolol), ace them twice and push down their inhibitors and eventually their nexus, while still being down 5 kills at the end of the game.

By the end of the game their jayce was raging hard in [all] chat, so I have a feeling he helped us to our victory as well...
Abenson
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada4122 Posts
September 19 2012 13:24 GMT
#2094
So i'm kinda confused about Rengar's new bola strike.

So if I have 300 AP and a lich bane, I can use Q on a minion to activate lich bane, and then I can use bola strike to deal original dmg + 300 lich bane dmg?
Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
September 19 2012 13:29 GMT
#2095
Talking about unwinnable games, I think it really depends on a bunch of stuff. I've been duoQing with my 1450 Elo buddy (I hover around 1700) and proceeded to carry 2 games as AD where our whole team went 2-13 within 15 minutes. Everyone kept their cool though and it turned out to be fine because a farmed Graves is stupidly strong. As long as you manage to keep everyone from insulting their teammates, lead the team by calling shots and outperform people in teamfights, most games are winnable, but I understand that's a lot to ask for. I've seen so much bullshit in soloQ, so many seemingly decided games thrown that I just don't think there's games that can't be won. I do think there's players who can't be carried, though.
currently rooting for myself.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-19 13:32:37
September 19 2012 13:30 GMT
#2096
On September 19 2012 22:24 Abenson wrote:
So i'm kinda confused about Rengar's new bola strike.

So if I have 300 AP and a lich bane, I can use Q on a minion to activate lich bane, and then I can use bola strike to deal original dmg + 300 lich bane dmg?

No, it just gives you the proc, it doesn't deal the Lichbane damage. As in, throwing Bola will activate it (like hitting any other ability), but you need to auto-attack to get the extra damage. I read it the same way the first time too.

The only abilities that I can think of that deal LB/TF/Sheen procs are next-hits (so I guess his Q does? And things like Siphoning Strike, Crippling Strike, etc), GP Q, and Ezreal Q. There's probably one or two others I'm not remembering.

On September 19 2012 22:29 Shiv. wrote:
Talking about unwinnable games, I think it really depends on a bunch of stuff. I've been duoQing with my 1450 Elo buddy (I hover around 1700) and proceeded to carry 2 games as AD where our whole team went 2-13 within 15 minutes. Everyone kept their cool though and it turned out to be fine because a farmed Graves is stupidly strong. As long as you manage to keep everyone from insulting their teammates, lead the team by calling shots and outperform people in teamfights, most games are winnable, but I understand that's a lot to ask for. I've seen so much bullshit in soloQ, so many seemingly decided games thrown that I just don't think there's games that can't be won. I do think there's players who can't be carried, though.

This. Not every game that is behind is unwinnable, it's a mindset. As long as you have 5 players willing to try, it's not unwinnable. AFKs, trolls, ragers, and players who refuse to cooperate and play with others (pushing lanes when you're fighting at Baron, getting Red when you're defending an inhib, etc) - these are what cause unwinnable games.
It's your boy Guzma!
Nikon
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bulgaria5710 Posts
September 19 2012 13:34 GMT
#2097
Does MF's Q carry trinity proc to its first target?
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-19 13:37:45
September 19 2012 13:37 GMT
#2098
funny how yesterday dyrius kept whining how OP rengar is (ad and AP) and riot buffs him next day ......
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
September 19 2012 13:40 GMT
#2099
On September 19 2012 22:34 Nikon wrote:
Does MF's Q carry trinity proc to its first target?

Iirc yeah, it procs all onhits on the first hit but the 2nd doesnt at all.

and yeah had a teemo earlier complainign rengars q proccing all that shit makes him really obnoxious now
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 19 2012 13:44 GMT
#2100
On September 19 2012 22:40 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2012 22:34 Nikon wrote:
Does MF's Q carry trinity proc to its first target?

Iirc yeah, it procs all onhits on the first hit but the 2nd doesnt at all.

and yeah had a teemo earlier complainign rengars q proccing all that shit makes him really obnoxious now

Lol, onhit Rengar auto QQ quickened autos. I could see that being silly if you're not expecting it.
It's your boy Guzma!
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