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On September 19 2012 10:31 HazMat wrote:
I hate Jayce because every time I look at his mana bar I think he's oom and it's safe to trade but then I realize his spells costs 40 mana. I swear it seems like most new released heroes have redic low mana costs for some odd reason.
riot said that high mana costs are antifun
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On September 19 2012 10:43 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2012 10:39 Perplex wrote:
That feel when you get shake on your team in a random 1600's game Isn't shake at like 2k? Didn't know elo range dropped all the way down 1600's at 2k?
smurf obviously
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On September 19 2012 10:31 HazMat wrote:
I hate Jayce because every time I look at his mana bar I think he's oom and it's safe to trade but then I realize his spells costs 40 mana. I swear it seems like most new released heroes have redic low mana costs for some odd reason.
I agree, this is my biggest problem with most of the new champions when they are released.
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On September 19 2012 10:35 TheKefka wrote:
K so this is the 4th bug splat since the syndra patch.
Is this game programmed by chimpanzees?
I'm getting 1 almost every game =/
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On September 19 2012 10:14 Craton wrote:
I mean, I was pretty sure we'd already thoroughly covered while Yorick's a giant dickbag more than once.
To recap:
Homing missle minions are very obnoxious. Apart from having absolutely no counterplay, they thoughtlessly block(ed) pathing and (still) skillshots.
Huge bursty heals on short CDs on a champ that can quickly fill a Tear and has extremely low mana concerns, 5% damage reduction per ghoul, a haste AND a slow, make it extremely difficult to ever trade with Yorick. If you can't chunk him so hard that he's zoned or dead he will come out ahead.
You can abuse ghouls to freeze waves, to tank the tower while you and your team close the gap for a dive, or later in game just to backdoor without taking a single shot of damage since ghouls mind-numbingly don't die in one hit to a tower.
In team fights its the same shit: skillshots brainlessly blocked by ghouls, oppressive slow slam on your priority targets, huge durability innately and from ideal items (FH = high armor, CDR for even more healing, hasting, slowing, uptime on passive, etc.)
And if dealing with all his shit in lane wasn't enough, then you get to team fighting where you have to put down the AD 2 or 3 times every fight while also being shot briefly by the clone before the AD dies. So here you have a champ doing 600-1000 damage per shot at 2 attacks a second and you kill him, but fuck you he's back still doing 1000 damage a shot and you can't afford to both kill the ghost and kill the other carries tearing your shit in.
What's that? Their AD has a GA, too? You're fucked. Go cry in a corner.
Even if Yorick does complete shit in lane (which while very hard to pull off is amusingly possible in solo queue), that ult just magnifies the shit out of their AD in a way that's EXTREMELY difficult to counter.
Especially, you know, when they pick the dickhead AD champs with giant get out of jail free cards so you can't stick to them in the first place.
Can you do one of this for Jayce?
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Jayce very strong, but losing to jayce doesn't feel like you just got owned by a retard who just happened to know how to press qwe when you try to last hit. Also, a Jayce without farm is pretty non threatening, just has shurelya's. A Yorick without farm = another AD carry.
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let's make a TL D team and try to go for diamond 5s, i invited inept, yiruru, chrispy, shiroi shi
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On September 19 2012 10:32 Craton wrote:
Holiday movement speed quints work now.
FINALLY. Haven't been able to ranked without them.
On September 19 2012 10:44 CeriseCherries wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2012 10:31 HazMat wrote:
I hate Jayce because every time I look at his mana bar I think he's oom and it's safe to trade but then I realize his spells costs 40 mana. I swear it seems like most new released heroes have redic low mana costs for some odd reason. riot said that high mana costs are antifun
High mana costs are anti sell the new champion every 2 weeks.
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I've been playing jayce top recently, and oh my god I've been doing it wrong for so long. I'm just shitting on people mostly by accident, its quiet hilarious
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On September 19 2012 10:44 CeriseCherries wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2012 10:31 HazMat wrote:
I hate Jayce because every time I look at his mana bar I think he's oom and it's safe to trade but then I realize his spells costs 40 mana. I swear it seems like most new released heroes have redic low mana costs for some odd reason. riot said that high mana costs are antifun
They're not anti-fun. They're just boring. When you can't do anything you get bored. How fun is it wait for grass to grow? That's basically what it's like to have high mana costs (relative to your mana pool)
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Woe is you that has to build mana regen over pure damage.
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On September 19 2012 11:11 Phrost wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2012 10:44 CeriseCherries wrote:On September 19 2012 10:31 HazMat wrote:
I hate Jayce because every time I look at his mana bar I think he's oom and it's safe to trade but then I realize his spells costs 40 mana. I swear it seems like most new released heroes have redic low mana costs for some odd reason. riot said that high mana costs are antifun They're not anti-fun. They're just boring. When you can't do anything you get bored. How fun is it wait for grass to grow? That's basically what it's like to have high mana costs (relative to your mana pool)
Lower Heimer's mana costs!
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Honestly speaking, every time a Riot dev opens their mouth to try and explain a change/reasoning behind a design philosophy I just want to tear my hair out.
It just feels like Riot tries way too hard to philosophize about what is and isn't fun for people.
On September 19 2012 11:11 Phrost wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2012 10:44 CeriseCherries wrote:On September 19 2012 10:31 HazMat wrote:
I hate Jayce because every time I look at his mana bar I think he's oom and it's safe to trade but then I realize his spells costs 40 mana. I swear it seems like most new released heroes have redic low mana costs for some odd reason. riot said that high mana costs are antifun They're not anti-fun. They're just boring. When you can't do anything you get bored. How fun is it wait for grass to grow? That's basically what it's like to have high mana costs (relative to your mana pool)
I don't see how being able to press Q and click on champions is more fun than just right clicking them.
On September 19 2012 11:12 Craton wrote:
Woe is you that has to build mana regen over pure damage.
And of course this.
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On September 19 2012 11:12 Craton wrote:
Woe is you that has to build mana regen over pure damage.
Yeah, Froggen must really have a boring time playing Anivia all day.
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On September 19 2012 10:43 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2012 10:39 Perplex wrote:
That feel when you get shake on your team in a random 1600's game Isn't shake at like 2k? Didn't know elo range dropped all the way down 1600's at 2k?
hes smurfing duh!
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Oh man Chauster and Liftlift doing lulu ez. Es op. Surprised not as many people play it.
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Hahaha TD looks so bad against CLG, especially botlane
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On September 19 2012 11:01 wei2coolman wrote:
Jayce very strong, but losing to jayce doesn't feel like you just got owned by a retard who just happened to know how to press qwe when you try to last hit. Also, a Jayce without farm is pretty non threatening, just has shurelya's. A Yorick without farm = another AD carry.
Maybe I just suck vs Jayce, but from what I see, he is fucking ungakable: aoe speed boost for the team, knockback, aoe slow and defensive stats all of which help him in preventing as well as assisting in ganks . What he does might not be as annoying as yoricks ghouls but its not like you feel outplayed either: its like HOLLY MOTHER OF GOD THAT HURTS SO FUCKING MUCH, he does it for 0 mana. And if for some reason he did not win the lane he still has all the team utility: speed bost, aoe slow and a knock back with %damage.
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I decided to try out maxing W first on Syndra after seeing a few comments here about it and I have to say I like it a lot more than Q first. Feels comfortable on just a chalice if you don't spam too much, and the slow is very nice for follow up harass.
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