I found the announcement and explanation about why DotA over LoL to be a little condescending despite them trying to sound fair. I would have been happy with them saying "Our staff plays DotA2, so it makes sense to cover DotA2, if we had more staff that played LoL, then we could pick up LoL". That at least gives us a path forward that could be worked towards. If I'm not mistaken, if we could get more people creating content consistently like Neo/Moon and all the others, then we wouldn't have to "ask" for an expansion, we would just have one.

This announcement just means I have to go out of my way even more now to avoid stupid "LoL isn't a real esport" posts/threads.

StateAlchemist

France1946 Posts

August 30 2012 19:07 GMT

#82

Congrats to DotA2, nice to see TL adopting a "moba" game.
Dont worry fellow league players we are still young and our golden age will come soon™, let's just break the meta while we wait.
brb sunfire bird.

Thanks TL, you're awesome.

I_Love_Bacon

United States5765 Posts

August 30 2012 19:10 GMT

#83

Am I the only one who doesn't care? It just seems like people are trying to propagate the dick measuring contest.

Nothing about this, in the least, says that the LoL subforum can't do pretty much everything the DotA side wants to do (sans stream postings). If people wanted to, they could take the time to write up and edit articles about various tournaments, strats, or ideas. This only seems relevant to LoL in the sense that people will always take time to make LoL and DotA 2 comparisons... when they really shouldn't.

nojitosunrise

United States6188 Posts

August 30 2012 19:10 GMT

#84

On August 31 2012 01:09 NeoIllusions wrote:

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I could moderate /r/LoL by myself, npnp.
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huehuehue

r/leagueoflegends is just ridiculous to mod...I ended up stepping down because of the stuff the I had to deal with.

I don't think this news should be a "shock" to anyone. Not everyone likes Riot Games or League of Legends.

Azarkon

United States21060 Posts

August 30 2012 19:12 GMT

#85

On August 31 2012 03:12 1ntrigue wrote:

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You're underestimating the prevalence of LoL in China. LoL is much more popular than DotA in all of the major Chinese cities nowadays in terms of active players. In terms of viewership, LoL is catching up pretty fast but it has stalled a bit because of the lack of top Chinese teams nowadays to challenge the current crop of top Korean teams.

It has little to do with China vs. Korea. Korea is a recent comer in LoL and is far from being the mecca of LoL. LoL had been popular in China for years before Korea came into the scene, but the eSports side of it has never taken off. Chinese teams also do not play Korean teams frequently - the Koreans don't send their teams out a lot, and the last time a Chinese team was in a tournament, they were roflstomped by Western teams. Thinking that Korea's rather light presence on the LoL scene is the cause for LoL eSports not taking off in China is delusional.

The problem is that LoL eSports just isn't that popular in China. A lot of this is due to the established Dota eSports tradition - just about every popular 'MOBA' player in China is in Dota rather than LoL. There is Dota elitism in China, too, from what I've heard.

Bleak

Turkey3059 Posts

August 30 2012 19:15 GMT

#86

I think the staff loves Dota more than LoL, that's why they picked it and also imo it's clearly the better game in their opinion. I kind of agree with them.

Antyee

Hungary1011 Posts

August 30 2012 19:16 GMT

#87

So hilariously funny to read single-digit posters randomly bashing LoL in the Dota 2 thread of this announcement.

I personally don't mind it, keeps mentally handicapped posters far from TL LoL.

Uracil

Germany422 Posts

August 30 2012 19:20 GMT

#88

Took 10 sec. of my life to recustomize my sidebar.

MeriaDoKk

Chile1726 Posts

August 30 2012 19:21 GMT

#89

On August 31 2012 01:25 NeoIllusions wrote:

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I think this will be a lot of people in TL LoL. Disappointing but we move on. We understand and we'll be better.

I gotta say, I like this approach, I always come to TL to read LoL threads when there are tournaments around.
I just wish the community's were less violent to each other, too much elitism going around.

HazMat

United States17077 Posts

August 30 2012 19:23 GMT

#90

I kind of wish they picked LoL just to see how mad people would get but it's not a big deal. Our little admin staff are doing an amazing job with everything. We don't need TL involvement.

De4ngus

United States6533 Posts

August 30 2012 19:25 GMT

#91

its ok. if tl picked up LoL there would be too many people and i wouldnt be able to troll all of them.

Ryuu314

United States12679 Posts

August 30 2012 19:39 GMT

#92

Tbh I was a little annoyed but mostly because the article TL puts out seemed a bit condescending. Otherwise, it's understandable and I don't mind too much. For me tho, TL is basically a LoL site with SC and DotA news. I came to TL originally for BW. SC2 was good but it didn't have the magic BW had and was disappointing to me in the end. LoL honestly was what kept me coming to this site.

Sufficiency

Canada23833 Posts

August 30 2012 19:40 GMT

#93

I think the ultimate reason is that dota is perceived to have more complex mechanics and higher skill ceiling than LoL, and no so much on the age of these games. Ask any old TLers about their opinion on WC3 and it will be very clear. TL does have rather a strong sense of elitism.

GhandiEAGLE

United States20754 Posts

August 30 2012 19:42 GMT

#94

But it is THURSDAY!!!

Isn't PAX supposed to be friday saturday sunday???

Gahlo

United States35173 Posts

August 30 2012 19:53 GMT

#95

On August 31 2012 04:42 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
But it is THURSDAY!!!

Isn't PAX supposed to be friday saturday sunday???

They decided that they could stretch it out.

ketchup

14521 Posts

August 30 2012 20:06 GMT

#96

This news is not that unexpected. I was asking about it a few months back, but was told nothing was said. It's about time they finally announced this.

greggy

United Kingdom1483 Posts

August 30 2012 20:20 GMT

#97

Realistically, as much as I like league, dota2 is far more of an "e-sport". League reminds me somewhat of WoW arena attempt at "e-sports" - it's interesting to watch if actually play the game, but really, really dull if you don't. Pro games are just, quite literally, a snoozefest. I'm watching tsm.evo vs crs as I'm typing this and 15 mins in, score was 2-0. 2 kills in 15 minutes means what, 13 minutes of farming and 2 minutes of action? In dota, a kill a minute is pretty much standard (perhaps less so in chinese games), some games going for two kills a minute. end-game score was something like 15-25, because you had 3 consecutive aces before the game ended. First major battle was for dragon around 27 mins in. Thing is, nobody wants to watch farming for 20-25 minutes before the actual fighting starts.

It's kinda related to how stagnant the meta is and how some mechanics (mainly unlimited wards) are not creating an interesting game.

Frolossus

United States4779 Posts

August 30 2012 20:33 GMT

#98

kinda sucks to see dota 2 without LoL but it was kind of expected tbh

i enjoy playing the occasional match of dota 2 and watching the events so i'm okay with this

TheLink

Australia2725 Posts

August 30 2012 20:54 GMT

#99

I like DotA and SC2 about the same anyways so if they want to blur together on the main page then I don't mind. In the meantime I just go to the LoL subforum like I always have.

DotA community is just lucky to have tobi-wan.

Antyee

Hungary1011 Posts

August 30 2012 21:00 GMT

#100

On August 31 2012 05:20 greggy wrote:
It's kinda related to how stagnant the meta is and how some mechanics (mainly unlimited wards) are not creating an interesting game.

But you get DQ-ed when you try to make it interesting... :/
On a more serious note, oracle's is getting earlier and earlier.
It has become the go-to item after finishing mobility boots on the supportjunglers.