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[PSA] TL Dota Expansion

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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
August 30 2012 15:03 GMT
#1
Good Morning TL LoL,

As you’ve noticed from the site downtime and the new sidebar on the left, the Admins of TeamLiquid have officially decided to branch away from the RTS genre and into DotA2. Some of you may not care about the change; others may take offense as to why DotA2 was selected but not LoL. In the end, I wanted to give a short explanation as well as a request to our humble, little community.

From Nazgul’s post, you can tell that the competitive nature of DotA2 is what lends itself to become the game of choice (besides StarCraft) for Naz and other TL Reds. Now it’s up for debate whether or not LoL is equally competitive but in all honesty, that is beside the point. DotA alone has been around for 6+ years and has an established competitive community that LoL cannot yet compete with. In the coming few weeks, the staff and I will slowly incorporate new features and articles to our subforum as a mini-expansion. But ask not what we can do for you but what you can do for TL LoL. If we are to one day be granted expansion on TeamLiquid like DotA2 is getting, I want to make sure we deserve it. TL LoL should be at the forefront of the League of Legends community. Nothing short.

In the end, I bid all of you but one thing: take today with grace. In all honesty, I am proud to be a part of this community. For the most part, many of you are a vital part of this great camaraderie that we have here. Do not turn for the worst. Congratulate DotA2 for becoming another eSports aspect of our beloved site and again, ask what you can do for our TL LoL community to make it better.

Thank you for your patience and understanding.

Enjoy PAX Prime today.

Regards,
Neo
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
August 30 2012 15:26 GMT
#2
cool, glad to see TL admins taking a MOBA seriously. I hope this doesn't fracture the community on LoL vs. DotA2.
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AUGcodon
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada536 Posts
August 30 2012 15:27 GMT
#3
Given that a much larger proportions of TL's population is more into Dota compared to Lol, the decision makes sense. As long as there is no sense of superiority going on for either side, it should be okay.
2809-8732-2116/ Fighting/ Mienfoo, Tyrogue, Sawk
Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
August 30 2012 15:29 GMT
#4
Congratulations to everyone following the DotA scene, I believe this is quite a big step for a site as pretigious among the SC fellows as TL. I hope that our beloved LiquidParty will one day reach this point of recognition and acceptance, too.
currently rooting for myself.
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-30 15:49:46
August 30 2012 15:30 GMT
#5
I saw it coming and am not surprised in the slightest.
I don't see how this effects us tho,we still have our place on TL,even tho we are smaller.
Cackle™
Deman
Profile Joined November 2008
United Kingdom42 Posts
August 30 2012 15:30 GMT
#6
It's an interesting choice considering LoL is screaming out for a community driven site and Dota2 has many of them already running.

Congrats and good luck

Leigh "Deman" Smith
Shoutcaster - http://twitter.com/qvDeman
Amethyst21
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada7032 Posts
August 30 2012 15:34 GMT
#7
Is this good for growth of LoL, probably not. Is this good for our smaller LoL fourm here on TL...probably. Small communities=best communities.
/On the C9 Hype Train/@DatFirefly
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
August 30 2012 15:34 GMT
#8
On August 31 2012 00:30 Deman wrote:
It's an interesting choice considering LoL is screaming out for a community driven site and Dota2 has many of them already running.

Congrats and good luck

Leigh "Deman" Smith

I gotta be honest,as the LOL community is now,I wouldn't want TL to ever become the foothold for it.
Cackle™
Schmieds
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States312 Posts
August 30 2012 15:40 GMT
#9
I'm okay with this. TL LoL is cool right now, and the last thing I'd want to see is the masses or r/LoL coming in here and spoiling it, however elitist that sounds.
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Goshawk.
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United Kingdom5338 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-30 15:43:30
August 30 2012 15:43 GMT
#10
On August 31 2012 00:30 Deman wrote:
It's an interesting choice considering LoL is screaming out for a community driven site and Dota2 has many of them already running.

Congrats and good luck

Leigh "Deman" Smith


I'm not sure what you mean. Both games are so big that they both have a tonne of websites/coverage sites for them. Although, then again I only really read TL for LoL because other websites are simply so bad (/r/leagueoflegends is terrible now). But, this announcement doesn't change anything for our forum, it's still as good as it ever was.

As people are saying I don't really want this forum to get better lol, given the quality of other LoL sites.
Parametric
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1261 Posts
August 30 2012 15:44 GMT
#11
On August 31 2012 00:40 Schmieds wrote:
I'm okay with this. TL LoL is cool right now, and the last thing I'd want to see is the masses or r/LoL coming in here and spoiling it, however elitist that sounds.


Imagine the lone mod vs the hordes of redditors foaming at the mouth about their awesome solo eves and legit support zyras that all rush trinity force for tons of damage.

If it ever happens I'd like to open the betting for "when will Neo go bat shit insane."
Crispy Bacon craving overload.
Goshawk.
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United Kingdom5338 Posts
August 30 2012 15:46 GMT
#12
On August 31 2012 00:44 WirelessWaffle wrote:
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On August 31 2012 00:40 Schmieds wrote:
I'm okay with this. TL LoL is cool right now, and the last thing I'd want to see is the masses or r/LoL coming in here and spoiling it, however elitist that sounds.


Imagine the lone mod vs the hordes of redditors foaming at the mouth about their awesome solo eves and legit support zyras that all rush trinity force for tons of damage.

If it ever happens I'd like to open the betting for "when will Neo go bat shit insane."


Don't forget the millions of cosplay/fan comic threads. :D
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14060 Posts
August 30 2012 15:48 GMT
#13
god damm thats a good address. short sweet full of Americana. wish they would have done this a week ago when ti started or tomorrow when ti resumes instead of on the day that a big lol event starts.

Great to hear this and I look forward to everything there is to come.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Parametric
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1261 Posts
August 30 2012 15:52 GMT
#14
On August 31 2012 00:46 Goshawk. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2012 00:44 WirelessWaffle wrote:
On August 31 2012 00:40 Schmieds wrote:
I'm okay with this. TL LoL is cool right now, and the last thing I'd want to see is the masses or r/LoL coming in here and spoiling it, however elitist that sounds.


Imagine the lone mod vs the hordes of redditors foaming at the mouth about their awesome solo eves and legit support zyras that all rush trinity force for tons of damage.

If it ever happens I'd like to open the betting for "when will Neo go bat shit insane."


Don't forget the millions of cosplay/fan comic threads. :D


I think they could get their own section called "Not quite right" or "A tad odd" and then there would be a separate one called "Daddy Issues"

:p
Crispy Bacon craving overload.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
August 30 2012 15:53 GMT
#15
It makes sense to me. DotA's been around for almost a decade now. You've got a preexisting, stable competitive base supported by a longstanding, trustworthy company versus a very new, uncertain but upcoming game with a company that, while doing well, has no other titles or sources of income. It would take a collapse of Valve to kill DotA 2, even if it doesn't become as wildly successful as people hope. LoL could easily take a wrong turn somewhere and implode.

That said, I blame TL B. If we ever actually practiced and competed maybe we'd attract some attention. Incidentally I'm out this weekend for an anime convention.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
SgtSquiglz
Profile Joined December 2010
United States668 Posts
August 30 2012 16:00 GMT
#16
Definitely a step in the right direction at least, glad to see TL is branching out a bit.

TL doesn't have to officially cover LoL for this forum to have good content!
Take anything I say with a grain of salt.....I suck at this game. Also, Go Blue!
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
August 30 2012 16:02 GMT
#17
*shrug* I love League, I love Broodwar, I love watching Dota so I don't mind this. While it's unlikely I am going to ever poke my head into the Dota2 section it's neat to see it being expanded on and it just drives us to be an even better and stronger community.
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
little fancy
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany2504 Posts
August 30 2012 16:03 GMT
#18
As long as those DotA2 'hooligans' (the ones that only come here to provoke LoL vs DotA discussions like we had a few times in our GD thread) stay away I don't really care.

DotA is known for its much more in-depth mechanical element (denying the enemy your own creeps, flexible path creating and the like) and in this sense is comparable to SC2. I understand the decision but couldn't care less at the same time (no offense).


On the other hand, I have to quote a guy a few posts before me:

On August 31 2012 00:34 Amethyst21 wrote:
[...] Small communities=best communities.


This pretty much sums it up.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 30 2012 16:06 GMT
#19
On August 31 2012 00:53 Seuss wrote:
It makes sense to me. DotA's been around for almost a decade now. You've got a preexisting, stable competitive base supported by a longstanding, trustworthy company versus a very new, uncertain but upcoming game with a company that, while doing well, has no other titles or sources of income. It would take a collapse of Valve to kill DotA 2, even if it doesn't become as wildly successful as people hope. LoL could easily take a wrong turn somewhere and implode.

That said, I blame TL B. If we ever actually practiced and competed maybe we'd attract some attention. Incidentally I'm out this weekend for an anime convention.

A million times this. Of all the 2k players we have and have formed teams, no one takes it even remotely seriously or tries to compete in any of the weekly tourneys. If I were good enough I'd be doing this constantly.

As for the DotA coverage, good on them. Kinda makes me sad that it's not us, of course, but it is great to see TL finally branching out to other games beyond strictly SC2/BW. (I also kind of wonder if it's partially because of the general animosity a lot of SC2 players seem to have toward LoL and whether they were worried about an uproar on the site?)

Anyway, maybe one day we'll be up there, especially if we keep getting such good writeups from JBright/MB/Neo and the few mods we have keep trying to fight for us. If there's anything we can do to make it a reality someday, don't hesitate to let us know!

TL LoL hwaiting!
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
August 30 2012 16:09 GMT
#20
On August 31 2012 00:44 WirelessWaffle wrote:
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On August 31 2012 00:40 Schmieds wrote:
I'm okay with this. TL LoL is cool right now, and the last thing I'd want to see is the masses or r/LoL coming in here and spoiling it, however elitist that sounds.


Imagine the lone mod vs the hordes of redditors foaming at the mouth about their awesome solo eves and legit support zyras that all rush trinity force for tons of damage.

If it ever happens I'd like to open the betting for "when will Neo go bat shit insane."


I could moderate /r/LoL by myself, npnp.
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