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Hyren
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States817 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-30 17:01:49
August 30 2012 16:58 GMT
#41
Not surprised at all, League has always been looked down on in Teamliquid (even despised) outside our little subforum. Then again, I think League isn't ready to be an official part of Teamliquid just as much as Teamliquid isn't ready to add League.
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barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
August 30 2012 16:59 GMT
#42
this is really good news, also gives me hope that LoL will be able to receive similar treatment in the future.

then again, i'm pretty sure that I wouldn't care one way or the other, since I just <3 all of you guys
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
August 30 2012 16:59 GMT
#43
Smaller communities best communities. Also, I have to admit having distanced myself a bit from TL as time passed. Before SC2 I could say "I am a part of TeamLiquid's community", and a bit after the release of the game too. But the demographic shifted, and I lost interest in SC2, both as a player and as a viewer. As I picked up LoL a few months later, I discovered the TL LoL subforum, and learn to appreciate it, as a source of general information, then as a community of snarky but nice people.
Now that I'd rather introduce myself as "some unknown dude of TeamLiquid's LoL community", I don't really feel affected by the DotA pickup. I just hope it'll go smooth for them and the rest of the site, and that there won't be too many childish DotA-"siders" to come here and try to rub it in our faces. I wouldn't care, but I'd have to burn more calories scrolling my mouse's wheel to get to the quality content.

Also I don't mean anything insulting to DotA's community, but we simply know that most of the SC2 community prefers DotA and a portion of them tends to hate on LoL in a non-constructive manner.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
ViZe
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1513 Posts
August 30 2012 16:59 GMT
#44
On August 31 2012 01:54 masterbreti wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2012 01:48 Roffles wrote:
On August 31 2012 01:47 masterbreti wrote:
this is going to be my first techinal post on the LoL forums here but in all honesty I don't like the Dota adding, I much pefer LoL, not just because I don't play Dota2 (hell i played one game and got a hat, DOTA2 has hats now?!?) but because my korean sc2 clammates all play LoL. the sc2 pros I know all play LoL, (byun plays a really good vayne, keep it on the DL though haha).

but also because its a game that has captured the same feeling I have for sc2, I love the game, it isn't perfect, but riot is doing a damn good job promoting the game in Korea.

But then again you realize that TL's shifting more internationally. So yeah, even though League is bigger in Korea, this TL ain't the same as it was in years past.


its not that, but LoL has 5x more viewers at any given point (aside from TI2) on twitch and Own3d. LoL is more more popualr and has a better community than DOTA2, Dota2 picked up a lot of the HoN community, which as we know, is a heap of crap.


I would argue that the majority of the LoL community is just as bad, if not worse than the DotA 2 community. I am pretty bad at DotA but I think I've only been straight up told that I suck and should go die once or twice, while I am much better at LoL and that happens way more frequently.
VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
August 30 2012 17:01 GMT
#45
On August 31 2012 01:54 masterbreti wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2012 01:48 Roffles wrote:
On August 31 2012 01:47 masterbreti wrote:
this is going to be my first techinal post on the LoL forums here but in all honesty I don't like the Dota adding, I much pefer LoL, not just because I don't play Dota2 (hell i played one game and got a hat, DOTA2 has hats now?!?) but because my korean sc2 clammates all play LoL. the sc2 pros I know all play LoL, (byun plays a really good vayne, keep it on the DL though haha).

but also because its a game that has captured the same feeling I have for sc2, I love the game, it isn't perfect, but riot is doing a damn good job promoting the game in Korea.

But then again you realize that TL's shifting more internationally. So yeah, even though League is bigger in Korea, this TL ain't the same as it was in years past.


its not that, but LoL has 5x more viewers at any given point (aside from TI2) on twitch and Own3d. LoL is more more popualr and has a better community than DOTA2, Dota2 picked up a lot of the HoN community, which as we know, is a heap of crap.

Nah bro,

AllStars has more players than LoL does now

DotA2 has more viewers than LoL does now.

BECAUSE CHINA BRO

Source: DotA2 Coverage Announcement discussions
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masterbreti
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)2711 Posts
August 30 2012 17:09 GMT
#46
On August 31 2012 02:01 VirgilSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2012 01:54 masterbreti wrote:
On August 31 2012 01:48 Roffles wrote:
On August 31 2012 01:47 masterbreti wrote:
this is going to be my first techinal post on the LoL forums here but in all honesty I don't like the Dota adding, I much pefer LoL, not just because I don't play Dota2 (hell i played one game and got a hat, DOTA2 has hats now?!?) but because my korean sc2 clammates all play LoL. the sc2 pros I know all play LoL, (byun plays a really good vayne, keep it on the DL though haha).

but also because its a game that has captured the same feeling I have for sc2, I love the game, it isn't perfect, but riot is doing a damn good job promoting the game in Korea.

But then again you realize that TL's shifting more internationally. So yeah, even though League is bigger in Korea, this TL ain't the same as it was in years past.


its not that, but LoL has 5x more viewers at any given point (aside from TI2) on twitch and Own3d. LoL is more more popualr and has a better community than DOTA2, Dota2 picked up a lot of the HoN community, which as we know, is a heap of crap.

Nah bro,

AllStars has more players than LoL does now

DotA2 has more viewers than LoL does now.

BECAUSE CHINA BRO

Source: DotA2 Coverage Announcement discussions




not sure if troll or sacastic.


anyways. even reading the thread on it, so many people bash LoL and don't get warned/banned and people who bash on dota2 get banned almost instantly.

Just fairly sure there is a lot of bias going around. and thats what bothers me more. I would rather see a sc only site than one with LoL or Dota2, or both. TL will always be my sc site.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
August 30 2012 17:10 GMT
#47
China and SEA alone skews any numbers heavily in DotA's favor, it's not even fair, lol. ;<
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Louuster
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2869 Posts
August 30 2012 17:14 GMT
#48
TBH the general starcraft people seem to have such a low opinion of LoL for some reason that it's not really a suprise that dota was chosen over it.
Kim Taek Yong fighting~
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
August 30 2012 17:14 GMT
#49
But how is China even relevant to the growth of the scene....Can sponsors even advertise their product there,let alone place it?If Dota was such a huge thing in China and it was so easy to monetize it I'm pretty sure someone would have done it already.I don't see company's standing in line to support dota.
Cackle™
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
August 30 2012 17:17 GMT
#50
why dont they like, cover both. I don't know any admins who don't play LoL.
JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
August 30 2012 17:18 GMT
#51
On August 31 2012 02:09 masterbreti wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2012 02:01 VirgilSC2 wrote:
On August 31 2012 01:54 masterbreti wrote:
On August 31 2012 01:48 Roffles wrote:
On August 31 2012 01:47 masterbreti wrote:
this is going to be my first techinal post on the LoL forums here but in all honesty I don't like the Dota adding, I much pefer LoL, not just because I don't play Dota2 (hell i played one game and got a hat, DOTA2 has hats now?!?) but because my korean sc2 clammates all play LoL. the sc2 pros I know all play LoL, (byun plays a really good vayne, keep it on the DL though haha).

but also because its a game that has captured the same feeling I have for sc2, I love the game, it isn't perfect, but riot is doing a damn good job promoting the game in Korea.

But then again you realize that TL's shifting more internationally. So yeah, even though League is bigger in Korea, this TL ain't the same as it was in years past.


its not that, but LoL has 5x more viewers at any given point (aside from TI2) on twitch and Own3d. LoL is more more popualr and has a better community than DOTA2, Dota2 picked up a lot of the HoN community, which as we know, is a heap of crap.

Nah bro,

AllStars has more players than LoL does now

DotA2 has more viewers than LoL does now.

BECAUSE CHINA BRO

Source: DotA2 Coverage Announcement discussions




not sure if troll or sacastic.


anyways. even reading the thread on it, so many people bash LoL and don't get warned/banned and people who bash on dota2 get banned almost instantly.

Just fairly sure there is a lot of bias going around. and thats what bothers me more. I would rather see a sc only site than one with LoL or Dota2, or both. TL will always be my sc site.


Just like SC2/Dota players coming into the LoL subforum and bashing us get warned/banned, anyone going into that thread (in the Dota2 section) looking for trouble will get it. People can talk shit all they want about other games as long as they keep it to their own section.
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Sven Stryker
Profile Joined December 2011
United States423 Posts
August 30 2012 17:18 GMT
#52
I'm happy for the DOTA LoL community getting something bigger for themselves. I find DOTA2 too dark to watch, but I'm happy for those that like it. I'll continue to watch LoL and SC2 (not really BW anymore) and enjoy lurking the TL forums as I usually have. About the only annoyance is that I had to reconfigure my sidebar again, taking all of 12 seconds in my life.
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
August 30 2012 17:20 GMT
#53
it really doesnt matter... I like Dota, i like LoL both. i mean the LoL sub wasn't hurt by this expansion so its ok, and if anything if the Dota2 section goes well, maybe LoL will get one too
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-30 17:21:38
August 30 2012 17:21 GMT
#54
I'm only worried that we'll get controversy of LoL v DotA2 the way we have BW v SC2. I've tried DotA2, I've tried watching DotA2... I will probably try again, but the first try I just wasn't really enthusiastic, and I got into these games starting with DotA.

Also... so that's why my sidebar got re-ordered and messed up. Argh!
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
August 30 2012 17:21 GMT
#55
On August 31 2012 02:14 TheKefka wrote:
But how is China even relevant to the growth of the scene....Can sponsors even advertise their product there,let alone place it?If Dota was such a huge thing in China and it was so easy to monetize it I'm pretty sure someone would have done it already.I don't see company's standing in line to support dota.


It's completely irrelevant. But not like that matters when fans throw viewership numbers around...
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AUGcodon
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada536 Posts
August 30 2012 17:22 GMT
#56
Oh btw, Is Riot making any major headway into China? Will Riot eventually take a fair chunk of MOBA population there?
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Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
August 30 2012 17:23 GMT
#57
Remember to check out the dota 2 learning party if anyone wants to take this as an excuse to explore dota with us.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=317167
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Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-30 17:25:04
August 30 2012 17:24 GMT
#58
On August 31 2012 02:14 TheKefka wrote:
But how is China even relevant to the growth of the scene....Can sponsors even advertise their product there,let alone place it?If Dota was such a huge thing in China and it was so easy to monetize it I'm pretty sure someone would have done it already.I don't see company's standing in line to support dota.


Chinese sponsors do, and that's relevant because China is one of the two markets that is seeing the biggest growth in eSports. Companies in China do advertise through their eSports teams and players, so the viewer counts from China matter a lot for monetization.
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
August 30 2012 17:33 GMT
#59
I find it perfectly understandable. Dota 2 reached its stage, slowly opening from it's cocoon and starting to spread its wings where as LoL still needs more years before it's even evolving into a cocoon. That said, i hope to see LoL on the list in a few years.
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-Zoda-
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
France3578 Posts
August 30 2012 17:39 GMT
#60
I personally think that this decision is kind of not rewarding for our LoL community, but well as said before, it'll keep it fairly small, avoiding all the kiddos.

I am however convinced that no matter what, LoL will still be more popular (at least in korea/EU/US) because its mechanics and graphics are way easier to understand. DotA seems to me a way more elitist game, even more with its 1h long games.


I am wondering something tho, people argue that DotA 2 is bigger because of the enormous playbase of DotA, but who said all these players will play DotA2 ? I mean, people still play BW and slowly convert to SC2, won't this happen with DotA 2 too ?
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