EPT[PSA] TL Dota Expansion - Page 11
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
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masterbreti
Korea (South)2711 Posts
On September 03 2012 06:45 PrinceXizor wrote: 260k watching TI2 in game only right now. not including any streams so about 300k including streams and everything for the biggest DOTA2 tournament of the year. while LoL gets 200k (one stream as well, not including restreams) for a regional tournament. But I'm not going to argue about it further about it. | ||
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duckii
Germany1017 Posts
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Sermokala
United States14113 Posts
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
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Unentschieden
Germany1471 Posts
On September 03 2012 08:02 Sermokala wrote: for the largest event of the year and for 1.6mil I really hope they can pull 500k for it. pax lol is hitting probably hitting 200kish with restreamers and shit and thats just the north american crowd. how crazy is the s2 champs going to be with all of asia being pulled in as well? Are we talking total or concurrent? | ||
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
On September 03 2012 08:50 Unentschieden wrote: Are we talking total or concurrent? dota numbers are concurrent afaik. i know it's 260k+ in game concurrent + 50k concurrent english stream 1 30k english stream 2 concurrent, russia/chinese 3 streams i don't know. and restreams in china/russia likely as well because a lot of commentators still in those countries. + terrible timezone issues for those areas as well. | ||
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Sermokala
United States14113 Posts
It'll be interesting to see the numbers for s2 lol. If they can pull numbers from china in any serious way things are going to get out of control I think fast on the numbers front. | ||
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Schlootle
United States54 Posts
On September 03 2012 09:33 Sermokala wrote: They said on stream that they hit 500k total from everything. People are also saying its 250k china 250k rest of the world or so. It'll be interesting to see the numbers for s2 lol. If they can pull numbers from china in any serious way things are going to get out of control I think fast on the numbers front. DOTA 2 isn't actually with PAX though right? If what I think is true, sc2 numbers won't change as there is no integration from DOTA 2 to the sc2 tournaments. And I am not surprised at the numbers for the TI2, only a couple of years ago the projected Chinese population alone was 20 million. Edit: I assumed you meant sc2 instead, I have no clue what s2 is if you meant to use it so correct me if I am wrong. | ||
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snow2.0
Germany2073 Posts
Don't see how important viewer numbers are as long as they stay within reasonable distances. We're sort of peaking for the amount of people actually interested in watching streamed esports, and those interested in mobas probably watch everything available. Not everyone hates on other games. The only thing i don't like about dota2 is not getting a key after signing up for the steam invite stuff months ago. | ||
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Cubu
1171 Posts
On September 03 2012 07:47 duckii wrote: according to valve it was over 500k people watching live. https://twitter.com/DOTA2/status/242387172005642241 Strange, i'm only seeing 41k for alternate stream and 31k for The international stream. | ||
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Feartheguru
Canada1334 Posts
On September 02 2012 18:42 Redox wrote: I like how the LoL community seems much less spiteful towards the Dota guys than the other way around. And in the end, both games have profited from each other anyway. Also, I even like the LoL community on this site better than the sc2 community. Thats probably because its smaller and therefore more "nice". So not much reason to want it to expand. Dota benefited from lol? No. | ||
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
On September 03 2012 07:11 masterbreti wrote: so about 300k including streams and everything for the biggest DOTA2 tournament of the year. while LoL gets 200k (one stream as well, not including restreams) for a regional tournament. But I'm not going to argue about it further about it. whats there to argue about? TL said in the announcement its not a popularity thing, and the lol scene has no money in it. | ||
JBright
Vancouver14381 Posts
On September 03 2012 11:41 Cubu wrote: Strange, i'm only seeing 41k for alternate stream and 31k for The international stream. They also have people watching from their spectator client as well as the Chinese/Russian streams. The 500k was a number they showed during the game and there's no reason not to believe them. They may not have benefited directly, but Riot's presence is definitely helpful for Valve. A lot of people who didn't know about the MOBA/ARTS genre got into LoL and now this exposure will be extended to Dota 2. Also, competition between 2 similar games will keep the developers honest and cut corners - this means the end product will always be improving and benefit the company's image. I'm sure if there's another competitive RTS that can compete with SC2, Blizzard won't be so slow to improve the game to what the community expects them to have right from the beginning. | ||
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Feartheguru
Canada1334 Posts
On September 03 2012 12:05 JBright wrote: They also have people watching from their spectator client as well as the Chinese/Russian streams. The 500k was a number they showed during the game and there's no reason not to believe them. They may not have benefited directly, but Riot's presence is definitely helpful for Valve. A lot of people who didn't know about the MOBA/ARTS genre got into LoL and now this exposure will be extended to Dota 2. Also, competition between 2 similar games will keep the developers honest and cut corners - this means the end product will always be improving and benefit the company's image. I'm sure if there's another competitive RTS that can compete with SC2, Blizzard won't be so slow to improve the game to what the community expects them to have right from the beginning. That's like saying SC helped the red alert series because they brought more people into RTS. | ||
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Sermokala
United States14113 Posts
On September 03 2012 13:00 Feartheguru wrote: That's like saying SC helped the red alert series because they brought more people into RTS. but.. it .. probably.. did. you don't have to look hard at all to see people that played lol until they found dota and enjoyed it more. scintilia wrote a really good post introducing people to dota 2 that played lol and its gotten a ton of hits. at the very least he started in lol and went to dota if you need any one at all to prove you wrong. I don't get why you're so hostile tword lol in the lol sub forum. You really had to chose to go to the lol subforum and post in a thread about lol to get where you are now. dota has its own whole section now and you have ti2 to go watch instead of coming in and trying to cause problems. | ||
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Craton
United States17281 Posts
On September 02 2012 14:01 Takkara wrote: I think the point shouldn't be that we begrudge DotA 2 for getting coverage, or say that we "deserve it more". We should compete for that honor on our own merits, and have to take it from anyone. It's not a zero sum game. Good for DotA and therefore good for us that TL has taken this step. If we get more constant content producers in this subforum, then our day will be soon. That's all well and good, but how many people actually believe this was an objective decision based solely on the merits? The writing was on the wall many many months ago. It's not a case of "well we'll just compete for it and eventually get it" -- that will never happen. It would be one thing if administrators had simply came out and said "we prefer DotA 2 and have chosen to sponsor it," rather than trying to convince themselves (and us) otherwise. That I simply cannot respect. | ||
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Sermokala
United States14113 Posts
Lets just instead try be positive and enjoy everything we get to have while we have it. | ||
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Lancer723
United States486 Posts
On September 03 2012 14:01 Craton wrote: That's all well and good, but how many people actually believe this was an objective decision based solely on the merits? The writing was on the wall many many months ago. It's not a case of "well we'll just compete for it and eventually get it" -- that will never happen. It would be one thing if administrators had simply came out and said "we prefer DotA 2 and have chosen to sponsor it," rather than trying to convince themselves (and us) otherwise. That I simply cannot respect. Also, Why not both? | ||
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NEOtheONE
United States2233 Posts
On August 31 2012 01:39 Zhiroo wrote: I don't even care about TL SC2 part anymore, too many elitist jerks and it's the same in DotA2. I stick around for TL LoL since you can't find a better community for LoL in 7 galaxies. True that about not finding a better LoL community anywhere else. I just wish the chat channel for TL in LoL was a little more active and talkative in North America. I really think TL should have done both LoL and DotA 2 at the same time. TL is a really good community overall, and I was hoping LoL could get a little more love here. | ||
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