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Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
August 31 2012 12:41 GMT
#161
I like LoL much better as a game than I do DotA 2 due to the differences in game design, aesthetics choice and efforts to make the community well-behaved, so I just hid away all the DotA 2 content via the site coverage options. While I don't share the interest that the admins seem to have for the game, I'm very grateful that they added the site coverage options to streamline the user experience of those of us who are more interested in Starcraft 2 and other TL site content, and I wish them the best with their DotA 2 endeavors.

While I can't think of anything I can contribute right now to TL LoL, you raise a good point that it's up to us to make our sub-forum everything it can be (and maybe more than that). I'll give this some more thought.
Go here http://vina.biobiochile.cl/ and input the Konami Code (up up down down left right left right B A)
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-31 13:54:58
August 31 2012 13:46 GMT
#162
On August 31 2012 00:34 TheKefka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2012 00:30 Deman wrote:
It's an interesting choice considering LoL is screaming out for a community driven site and Dota2 has many of them already running.

Congrats and good luck

Leigh "Deman" Smith

I gotta be honest,as the LOL community is now,I wouldn't want TL to ever become the foothold for it.

Yeah I completly agree, it's the only forum where I can ask dumb question without being instantly flamed. LoL is a nice game, but its community is full of kids.

I just hope NeoIllusions doesn't exhaust himself for our pleasure, if I can help in anything I will do it considering the little time I can give.

On August 31 2012 02:14 TheKefka wrote:
But how is China even relevant to the growth of the scene....Can sponsors even advertise their product there,let alone place it?If Dota was such a huge thing in China and it was so easy to monetize it I'm pretty sure someone would have done it already.I don't see company's standing in line to support dota.

China has always been kinda of secluded from the rest of the e-sport world, in all games. SC1, WC3, Dota, even SC2, everytime China has its own little eco system.
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-31 15:18:52
August 31 2012 15:17 GMT
#163
While I'm primarly a LoL player and I understand its popularity it doesn't change the fact that the professionalism, depth, history, features and maturity the competitive dota 2 scene/game has just isn't there yet for LoL.

The LoL scene doesn't deserve to be covered by THE most respected esport site on the planet. Thats how I feel right now.
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
nosliw
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2716 Posts
August 31 2012 15:25 GMT
#164
what is PSA?
Praetorial
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States4241 Posts
August 31 2012 15:26 GMT
#165
public service announcement
FOR GREAT JUSTICE! Bans for the ban gods!
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
August 31 2012 15:27 GMT
#166
On September 01 2012 00:25 nosliw wrote:
what is PSA?

Public Service Announcement
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
August 31 2012 15:28 GMT
#167
On September 01 2012 00:26 Praetorial wrote:
public service announcement

You sure the S isn't for Sexual ? Or maybe Sexy.
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
September 01 2012 01:52 GMT
#168
How is the Dota International 2 viewership? I think I see around 30k on own3d English stream and around 20K on Twitch.tv. So I would estimate all languages streams is around 70K at most.
That isn't even close to some mid-level LoL tourney. LoL can pull like 200K-300K easily.
Terran
AUGcodon
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada536 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-01 01:57:04
September 01 2012 01:56 GMT
#169
You are forgetting in-game stream client. I think in NA, and Europe the viewership for LOL is better. But once you throw Asia in the mix....... Right now I think they are probably sitting around 100k for the western viewers.
2809-8732-2116/ Fighting/ Mienfoo, Tyrogue, Sawk
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
September 01 2012 01:56 GMT
#170
On September 01 2012 10:52 Caphe wrote:
How is the Dota International 2 viewership? I think I see around 30k on own3d English stream and around 20K on Twitch.tv. So I would estimate all languages streams is around 70K at most.
That isn't even close to some mid-level LoL tourney. LoL can pull like 200K-300K easily.

You can also spectate in-game and listen to commentary from in-game options. So it's not a full figure.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
zZygote
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada898 Posts
September 01 2012 01:56 GMT
#171
On September 01 2012 10:52 Caphe wrote:
How is the Dota International 2 viewership? I think I see around 30k on own3d English stream and around 20K on Twitch.tv. So I would estimate all languages streams is around 70K at most.
That isn't even close to some mid-level LoL tourney. LoL can pull like 200K-300K easily.


Nearly 90-120k average viewers in day1 and day2 of NA Regionals. A little over 800k unique viewers for day2 as well.
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
September 01 2012 01:58 GMT
#172
On September 01 2012 10:56 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2012 10:52 Caphe wrote:
How is the Dota International 2 viewership? I think I see around 30k on own3d English stream and around 20K on Twitch.tv. So I would estimate all languages streams is around 70K at most.
That isn't even close to some mid-level LoL tourney. LoL can pull like 200K-300K easily.

You can also spectate in-game and listen to commentary from in-game options. So it's not a full figure.

Oh, I see. But I don't think the viewers from Dota clients can double the 70K figure, why you want to fire a client just to watch a game? I'd watch it on own3d or twitch.tv as what I am doing right now since I want to see give Dota 2 another chance to impress me, past experiences were not that good.
Terran
AUGcodon
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada536 Posts
September 01 2012 02:00 GMT
#173
Well if we really want to compare E-dicks, its probably better for the international to finish and just let steam to tell us the figures.
2809-8732-2116/ Fighting/ Mienfoo, Tyrogue, Sawk
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-01 02:02:29
September 01 2012 02:01 GMT
#174
On September 01 2012 10:58 Caphe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2012 10:56 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
On September 01 2012 10:52 Caphe wrote:
How is the Dota International 2 viewership? I think I see around 30k on own3d English stream and around 20K on Twitch.tv. So I would estimate all languages streams is around 70K at most.
That isn't even close to some mid-level LoL tourney. LoL can pull like 200K-300K easily.

You can also spectate in-game and listen to commentary from in-game options. So it's not a full figure.

Oh, I see. But I don't think the viewers from Dota clients can double the 70K figure, why you want to fire a client just to watch a game? I'd watch it on own3d or twitch.tv as what I am doing right now since I want to see give Dota 2 another chance to impress me, past experiences were not that good.

There were 69,659 people watching in-game CLG v M5 during group stages which was one of the most viewed games. And also, it's likely the semifinals and finals will have more viewers than group stage matches. Also, group stages matches were played concurrently so hard to say what the combined figure at any point in time was until Valve says so.

DotaTV is nice because you can spectate the game and control the camera yourself while having options to choose from different commentators for audio or disable commentary. You can also choose to set a camera lock to what a commentator is seeing if you're lazy.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
September 01 2012 02:02 GMT
#175
On September 01 2012 11:00 AUGcodon wrote:
Well if we really want to compare E-dicks, its probably better for the international to finish and just let steam to tell us the figures.

What? I am seriously trying to get into Dota 2 and see how good it is. Got a beta a few months ago but nothing seems special about Dota 2 after 20 games or so. I was playing LoL most of the time though.
Terran
AUGcodon
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada536 Posts
September 01 2012 02:06 GMT
#176
Ops, sorry. I just get kind of annoyed whenever people want to compare lol and dota view figure. Usually think there is an ulterior motive behind it.
2809-8732-2116/ Fighting/ Mienfoo, Tyrogue, Sawk
h3r1n6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Iceland2039 Posts
September 01 2012 02:15 GMT
#177
DotA has Invoker. Only reason I play that game.
snow2.0
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany2073 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-01 02:29:56
September 01 2012 02:18 GMT
#178
Don't see why dota 2 gets picked up now. It's not available to the wide public.
To me, it looks like a big company throwing money at a problem. Like Blizzard did with diablo 3 and behold the soulless abomination they spawned. Of course there's the established competitive community... but isn't that the DOTA 1 community?

incidentally, what happened to that dota lawsuit between blizzard and valve?


gl with the new section.
dooshplayer
Profile Joined August 2012
179 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-02 04:46:56
September 02 2012 04:44 GMT
#179
Official Dota 2 blog says 'over 400,000 simultaneous viewers online and thousands of visitors at Benaroya Hall'

http://blog.dota2.com/2012/09/day-two-starts/

On September 01 2012 11:18 snow2.0 wrote:
Don't see why dota 2 gets picked up now. It's not available to the wide public.
To me, it looks like a big company throwing money at a problem.


isnt that what riot is doing with LoL. paid money to MLG, IEM and IPL to have LoL in their leagues and then also have a clause that forbids them from allowing any other moba game on their league.


On September 01 2012 11:18 snow2.0 wrote:

incidentally, what happened to that dota lawsuit between blizzard and valve?



valve and blizzard reached an 'agreement' where valve gets the 'dota' name and blizzard changes their sc2 mod name from 'blizzard dota' to 'blizzard allstars'
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
September 02 2012 04:46 GMT
#180
Looking at the number of recent dota-related bans, I am glad we are not on the front page.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
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