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TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-30 16:20:18
August 30 2012 16:19 GMT
#21
Neo after modding a external LoL website all alone for a month:+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
Cackle™
Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
August 30 2012 16:20 GMT
#22
On August 31 2012 01:19 TheKefka wrote:
Neo after modding a external LoL website all alone for a month:+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

nah, dude's too chill.
currently rooting for myself.
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-30 16:22:07
August 30 2012 16:21 GMT
#23
Meh. Still not sure how I feel about the pickup. To me, it just screams as an opportunity to pickup a growing game to eventually merge attention towards since SC2 is a dying game already.
God Bless
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
August 30 2012 16:22 GMT
#24
On August 31 2012 01:06 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2012 00:53 Seuss wrote:
It makes sense to me. DotA's been around for almost a decade now. You've got a preexisting, stable competitive base supported by a longstanding, trustworthy company versus a very new, uncertain but upcoming game with a company that, while doing well, has no other titles or sources of income. It would take a collapse of Valve to kill DotA 2, even if it doesn't become as wildly successful as people hope. LoL could easily take a wrong turn somewhere and implode.

That said, I blame TL B. If we ever actually practiced and competed maybe we'd attract some attention. Incidentally I'm out this weekend for an anime convention.

A million times this. Of all the 2k players we have and have formed teams, no one takes it even remotely seriously or tries to compete in any of the weekly tourneys. If I were good enough I'd be doing this constantly.

As for the DotA coverage, good on them. Kinda makes me sad that it's not us, of course, but it is great to see TL finally branching out to other games beyond strictly SC2/BW. (I also kind of wonder if it's partially because of the general animosity a lot of SC2 players seem to have toward LoL and whether they were worried about an uproar on the site?)

Anyway, maybe one day we'll be up there, especially if we keep getting such good writeups from JBright/MB/Neo and the few mods we have keep trying to fight for us. If there's anything we can do to make it a reality someday, don't hesitate to let us know!

TL LoL hwaiting!


Don't say, "If I were good enough." Make a team and do it anyway. You can learn mechanics and individual decision making at the same time you learn team coordination and communication. You will hone your individual skills faster when you have a team to call you out on your mistakes.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Dusty
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3359 Posts
August 30 2012 16:24 GMT
#25
I saw the post over in the Dota 2 subforum, was butthurt, and moved on. Obviously since League is newer it still needs to prove itself, I suppose. Time will tell how it goes but I definitely see it getting the same attention soon.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
August 30 2012 16:25 GMT
#26
On August 31 2012 01:24 Dusty wrote:
I saw the post over in the Dota 2 subforum, was butthurt, and moved on. Obviously since League is newer it still needs to prove itself, I suppose. Time will tell how it goes but I definitely see it getting the same attention soon.


I think this will be a lot of people in TL LoL. Disappointing but we move on. We understand and we'll be better.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 30 2012 16:31 GMT
#27
On August 31 2012 01:22 Seuss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2012 01:06 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 31 2012 00:53 Seuss wrote:
It makes sense to me. DotA's been around for almost a decade now. You've got a preexisting, stable competitive base supported by a longstanding, trustworthy company versus a very new, uncertain but upcoming game with a company that, while doing well, has no other titles or sources of income. It would take a collapse of Valve to kill DotA 2, even if it doesn't become as wildly successful as people hope. LoL could easily take a wrong turn somewhere and implode.

That said, I blame TL B. If we ever actually practiced and competed maybe we'd attract some attention. Incidentally I'm out this weekend for an anime convention.

A million times this. Of all the 2k players we have and have formed teams, no one takes it even remotely seriously or tries to compete in any of the weekly tourneys. If I were good enough I'd be doing this constantly.

As for the DotA coverage, good on them. Kinda makes me sad that it's not us, of course, but it is great to see TL finally branching out to other games beyond strictly SC2/BW. (I also kind of wonder if it's partially because of the general animosity a lot of SC2 players seem to have toward LoL and whether they were worried about an uproar on the site?)

Anyway, maybe one day we'll be up there, especially if we keep getting such good writeups from JBright/MB/Neo and the few mods we have keep trying to fight for us. If there's anything we can do to make it a reality someday, don't hesitate to let us know!

TL LoL hwaiting!


Don't say, "If I were good enough." Make a team and do it anyway. You can learn mechanics and individual decision making at the same time you learn team coordination and communication. You will hone your individual skills faster when you have a team to call you out on your mistakes.

Monte criticisms always so harsh. FOR YOUR INFORMATION SIR, I already have a team but they're lazy and we don't practice. I should have gotten with one of the LP crew/teams before the channel started to die...
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
August 30 2012 16:35 GMT
#28
On August 31 2012 01:25 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2012 01:24 Dusty wrote:
I saw the post over in the Dota 2 subforum, was butthurt, and moved on. Obviously since League is newer it still needs to prove itself, I suppose. Time will tell how it goes but I definitely see it getting the same attention soon.


I think this will be a lot of people in TL LoL. Disappointing but we move on. We understand and we'll be better.

Yeah.....was me for sure.

Really disappointing, but what can we do...

I would have like to see both or neither really. Favoritism is never good.
Clarity Gaming #1 Fan | Avid MTG Grinder | @VirgilSC2
Praetorial
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States4241 Posts
August 30 2012 16:36 GMT
#29
Darn now I need to change my sidebar and learn to play DotA 2. I've played it once, it was pretty confusing to me, and honestly I prefer League of Legends, but yeah...

I agree with WaveOfShadow here. TL B's players have been very very active, like Soniv being the extremely vocal Viktor advocate, but if they had perhaps become their own team and queued and been more visible as a team rather than a conglomerate of casual players, things may have been different.

Then again, they are casual players and volunteers, so no hard feelings. I am going to have to learn a new game because of them though.
FOR GREAT JUSTICE! Bans for the ban gods!
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-30 16:40:00
August 30 2012 16:36 GMT
#30
On August 31 2012 01:31 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2012 01:22 Seuss wrote:
On August 31 2012 01:06 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 31 2012 00:53 Seuss wrote:
It makes sense to me. DotA's been around for almost a decade now. You've got a preexisting, stable competitive base supported by a longstanding, trustworthy company versus a very new, uncertain but upcoming game with a company that, while doing well, has no other titles or sources of income. It would take a collapse of Valve to kill DotA 2, even if it doesn't become as wildly successful as people hope. LoL could easily take a wrong turn somewhere and implode.

That said, I blame TL B. If we ever actually practiced and competed maybe we'd attract some attention. Incidentally I'm out this weekend for an anime convention.

A million times this. Of all the 2k players we have and have formed teams, no one takes it even remotely seriously or tries to compete in any of the weekly tourneys. If I were good enough I'd be doing this constantly.

As for the DotA coverage, good on them. Kinda makes me sad that it's not us, of course, but it is great to see TL finally branching out to other games beyond strictly SC2/BW. (I also kind of wonder if it's partially because of the general animosity a lot of SC2 players seem to have toward LoL and whether they were worried about an uproar on the site?)

Anyway, maybe one day we'll be up there, especially if we keep getting such good writeups from JBright/MB/Neo and the few mods we have keep trying to fight for us. If there's anything we can do to make it a reality someday, don't hesitate to let us know!

TL LoL hwaiting!


Don't say, "If I were good enough." Make a team and do it anyway. You can learn mechanics and individual decision making at the same time you learn team coordination and communication. You will hone your individual skills faster when you have a team to call you out on your mistakes.

Monte criticisms always so harsh. FOR YOUR INFORMATION SIR, I already have a team but they're lazy and we don't practice. I should have gotten with one of the LP crew/teams before the channel started to die...


Homework Assignment: Find four other people complaining about the same thing and make a new team.

On August 31 2012 01:36 Praetorial wrote:
Darn now I need to change my sidebar and learn to play DotA 2. I've played it once, it was pretty confusing to me, and honestly I prefer League of Legends, but yeah...

I agree with WaveOfShadow here. TL B's players have been very very active, like Soniv being the extremely vocal Viktor advocate, but if they had perhaps become their own team and queued and been more visible as a team rather than a conglomerate of casual players, things may have been different.

Then again, they are casual players and volunteers, so no hard feelings. I am going to have to learn a new game because of them though.


Wat.

If you like LoL keep playing LoL. Why do you have to learn a new game? I am so confused.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Zhiroo
Profile Joined February 2011
Kosovo2724 Posts
August 30 2012 16:39 GMT
#31
I don't even care about TL SC2 part anymore, too many elitist jerks and it's the same in DotA2. I stick around for TL LoL since you can't find a better community for LoL in 7 galaxies.
LoL EuW: Zhiroo - By starting this squabble you've proven nothing but how vast your stupidity is.
Praetorial
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States4241 Posts
August 30 2012 16:46 GMT
#32
On August 31 2012 01:36 Seuss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2012 01:31 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 31 2012 01:22 Seuss wrote:
On August 31 2012 01:06 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 31 2012 00:53 Seuss wrote:
It makes sense to me. DotA's been around for almost a decade now. You've got a preexisting, stable competitive base supported by a longstanding, trustworthy company versus a very new, uncertain but upcoming game with a company that, while doing well, has no other titles or sources of income. It would take a collapse of Valve to kill DotA 2, even if it doesn't become as wildly successful as people hope. LoL could easily take a wrong turn somewhere and implode.

That said, I blame TL B. If we ever actually practiced and competed maybe we'd attract some attention. Incidentally I'm out this weekend for an anime convention.

A million times this. Of all the 2k players we have and have formed teams, no one takes it even remotely seriously or tries to compete in any of the weekly tourneys. If I were good enough I'd be doing this constantly.

As for the DotA coverage, good on them. Kinda makes me sad that it's not us, of course, but it is great to see TL finally branching out to other games beyond strictly SC2/BW. (I also kind of wonder if it's partially because of the general animosity a lot of SC2 players seem to have toward LoL and whether they were worried about an uproar on the site?)

Anyway, maybe one day we'll be up there, especially if we keep getting such good writeups from JBright/MB/Neo and the few mods we have keep trying to fight for us. If there's anything we can do to make it a reality someday, don't hesitate to let us know!

TL LoL hwaiting!


Don't say, "If I were good enough." Make a team and do it anyway. You can learn mechanics and individual decision making at the same time you learn team coordination and communication. You will hone your individual skills faster when you have a team to call you out on your mistakes.

Monte criticisms always so harsh. FOR YOUR INFORMATION SIR, I already have a team but they're lazy and we don't practice. I should have gotten with one of the LP crew/teams before the channel started to die...


Homework Assignment: Find four other people complaining about the same thing and make a new team.

Show nested quote +
On August 31 2012 01:36 Praetorial wrote:
Darn now I need to change my sidebar and learn to play DotA 2. I've played it once, it was pretty confusing to me, and honestly I prefer League of Legends, but yeah...

I agree with WaveOfShadow here. TL B's players have been very very active, like Soniv being the extremely vocal Viktor advocate, but if they had perhaps become their own team and queued and been more visible as a team rather than a conglomerate of casual players, things may have been different.

Then again, they are casual players and volunteers, so no hard feelings. I am going to have to learn a new game because of them though.


Wat.

If you like LoL keep playing LoL. Why do you have to learn a new game? I am so confused.


Um because I like to know what people are talking about on DotA streams when Oddbro and Froggen aren't streaming!
FOR GREAT JUSTICE! Bans for the ban gods!
masterbreti
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)2711 Posts
August 30 2012 16:47 GMT
#33
this is going to be my first techinal post on the LoL forums here but in all honesty I don't like the Dota adding, I much pefer LoL, not just because I don't play Dota2 (hell i played one game and got a hat, DOTA2 has hats now?!?) but because my korean sc2 clammates all play LoL. the sc2 pros I know all play LoL, (byun plays a really good vayne, keep it on the DL though haha).

but also because its a game that has captured the same feeling I have for sc2, I love the game, it isn't perfect, but riot is doing a damn good job promoting the game in Korea.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
August 30 2012 16:47 GMT
#34
Even if it doesn't have it's own section does it really change anything?

Also just compare old broodwar forum to sc2 one currently and you'll see why you shouldn't really be butthurt or w/e ^^.I have yet to see a big internet community which I actually like.
GeorgeForeman
Profile Joined April 2005
United States1746 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-30 16:48:27
August 30 2012 16:47 GMT
#35
On August 31 2012 00:30 Deman wrote:
It's an interesting choice considering LoL is screaming out for a community driven site and Dota2 has many of them already running.

Congrats and good luck

Leigh "Deman" Smith

I can't comment on the rest, but I'll second this. When I started following LoL, I looked around for websites similar to TL that gave LoL coverage, and found them wanting. solomid.net is great for guides and streams, but the community is shit, and there's rarely any news coverage. TL's way better for that, even with just a subforum devoted to the game. Generating page views has never been the goal of TL, so I understand the choice to cover a game that the decision makers care about. I just really wish there was a website where the kind of coverage and analysis TL gives us for SC2 would be given to LoL.

And while I'm here, super big thanks to Neo and all the other authors who make this forum as good as it is! TL is the best place to watch LoL on the internets. ^_^
like a school bus through a bunch of kids
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
August 30 2012 16:48 GMT
#36
On August 31 2012 01:47 masterbreti wrote:
this is going to be my first techinal post on the LoL forums here but in all honesty I don't like the Dota adding, I much pefer LoL, not just because I don't play Dota2 (hell i played one game and got a hat, DOTA2 has hats now?!?) but because my korean sc2 clammates all play LoL. the sc2 pros I know all play LoL, (byun plays a really good vayne, keep it on the DL though haha).

but also because its a game that has captured the same feeling I have for sc2, I love the game, it isn't perfect, but riot is doing a damn good job promoting the game in Korea.

But then again you realize that TL's shifting more internationally. So yeah, even though League is bigger in Korea, this TL ain't the same as it was in years past.
God Bless
ViZe
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1513 Posts
August 30 2012 16:50 GMT
#37
I was butthurt at first but then I remembered how much better this little subforum is than the SC2 gobbledegook. It is a bit surprising to me though considering this community is probably much more active than TL's DotA 2 community. Whatev, at least I'll have a bigger source for helping me improve at that game since I absolutely blow at it lol.

I guess this is the TL admins saying gg no re SC2, sorry but you're not doing too hot and we need to keep the site going
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-30 16:52:52
August 30 2012 16:52 GMT
#38
I like this forum because honestly it's easier to find interesting and relevant information. When newbies ask we answer. When nothing's happening people are discussing the patch. When a competition is on people are discussing the teams and strategies.

Honestly if one thing comes from the change I hope it makes DotA 2 discussion more organized and good information easier to find on our site. Before I had a hard time finding things I wanted and the DotA 2 GD thread was pretty much all fluff.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
masterbreti
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)2711 Posts
August 30 2012 16:54 GMT
#39
On August 31 2012 01:48 Roffles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2012 01:47 masterbreti wrote:
this is going to be my first techinal post on the LoL forums here but in all honesty I don't like the Dota adding, I much pefer LoL, not just because I don't play Dota2 (hell i played one game and got a hat, DOTA2 has hats now?!?) but because my korean sc2 clammates all play LoL. the sc2 pros I know all play LoL, (byun plays a really good vayne, keep it on the DL though haha).

but also because its a game that has captured the same feeling I have for sc2, I love the game, it isn't perfect, but riot is doing a damn good job promoting the game in Korea.

But then again you realize that TL's shifting more internationally. So yeah, even though League is bigger in Korea, this TL ain't the same as it was in years past.


its not that, but LoL has 5x more viewers at any given point (aside from TI2) on twitch and Own3d. LoL is more more popualr and has a better community than DOTA2, Dota2 picked up a lot of the HoN community, which as we know, is a heap of crap.
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
August 30 2012 16:54 GMT
#40
guess i have to learn how to play dota2 some, just so i can watch the coverage without being completely confused.
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