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Vaporized
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1471 Posts
August 19 2012 18:37 GMT
#1001
gtrsrs have you even played jayce?
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
August 19 2012 18:44 GMT
#1002
i have played with, as, and against jayce
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
SgtSquiglz
Profile Joined December 2010
United States668 Posts
August 19 2012 18:46 GMT
#1003
Idk why people don't like the Jayce splash art. I feel like I'm the only person who likes it.

Also, I'm having a blast playing Jayce in my low elo. No one seems to realize that his E (maxed first) does MAGIC damage. people keep building armor against it....

Though I agree, I feel like i struggle in teamfights later in the game. His poke with gate+Q in ranged stance is really nice for tower sieges though.
Take anything I say with a grain of salt.....I suck at this game. Also, Go Blue!
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-19 18:49:03
August 19 2012 18:48 GMT
#1004
Jayce seems to have old Nidalee syndrome it seems. Poke from Gate+Q is like a sick AoE mini-Nida spear and his Gate min-Shurelyas is the big team utility like Nida's heal was. Hm. Interesting.

I do wonder perhaps whether it means he becomes a lane focused champion and used in niche team comps? Or perhaps his skillcap is high enough that he still hasn't really been figured out yet. Hrm.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-19 18:50:53
August 19 2012 18:48 GMT
#1005
I don't think his lategame is as atrocious as you think it is~ It's definitely a huge drop off compared to his early and mid game strengths, but that's not to say it's bad.

I'd argue his late game damage output though weaker than what it should be, is balanced out by his utility (accel gate, along with his knock back), so it's not as atrocious as you think it is.

Plus there are plenty of champs with weak late games that people still play a lot of.

I'd argue jayce's kit is more cohesive than nid's was, mostly because Jayce building AD offers that poke damage, and doesn't harm his fighting abilities when it comes to full engage.

Nid on the other hand, has a trade off, AP for poke, or AD for teamfight.
liftlift > tsm
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
August 19 2012 18:48 GMT
#1006
it's his face that needs a buff
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
Vaporized
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1471 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-19 18:51:03
August 19 2012 18:49 GMT
#1007
youre actually wrong about no one picking him in 'competitive play', fnatic soaz picked him in gamescom vs crs.eu and dominated so hard crs banned jayce in the 2nd game.

soaz used the same build i do which is bt - triforce.
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
August 19 2012 18:51 GMT
#1008
Jayce is still relatively new, he's going to get picked up pretty soon without any buffs/nerfs and you'll all get to see how strong he is.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
August 19 2012 18:51 GMT
#1009
On August 20 2012 03:49 Vaporized wrote:
youre actually wrong about no one picking him in 'competitive play', fnatic soaz picked him in gamescom vs crs.eu and dominated so hard crs banned jayce in the 2nd game.

soaz used the same build i do which is bt - triforce.


Also played vs. M5, and the lane went freefarm, then Shen was stronger.
Freeeeeeedom
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
August 19 2012 18:52 GMT
#1010
On August 20 2012 03:49 Vaporized wrote:
youre actually wrong about no one picking him in 'competitive play', fnatic soaz picked him in gamescom vs crs.eu and dominated so hard crs banned jayce in the 2nd game.

soaz used the same build i do which is bt - triforce.

hsgg's nidalee still ban worthy, if hotshot still played top~ that's not to say nidalee is good, but hsgg is very good with nidalee.
liftlift > tsm
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-19 19:04:05
August 19 2012 19:02 GMT
#1011
On August 20 2012 02:25 Morfildur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2012 01:48 obesechicken13 wrote:
On August 20 2012 01:44 h3r1n6 wrote:
Poppy is literally the worst champion at farming. She has ridiculously good scaling, but she can't get items. It's very possible to play her in soloqueue (point in case Zekent), but it's hard to impossible to get her farmed if your opponents play it right/pick Olaf.

Jayce is just not played because of the too many champions syndrome. First, people need to put effort in to learn an underplayed champion. Second, why play that nerdy Jayce guy when you can play some chick with big boobs.

I think jayce should get a big boobs skin. I have no idea why he's not played. I'm buying him today. Dude is literally broken in lane according to my math. Like every time he puts a point in Q it's like he's putting two points in Q, whereas another champion only gets one point.

Also relevant to the boots discussion.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Thanks for the horrible mental image of a Jayce with boobs...

np

I really like HSGG's nidalee but I don't think it fits in team comps anymore. He really couldn't teamfight as an AP and tried bruiser nidalee only briefly. Back when HSGG played nidalee in tournaments he was much better than everyone else and the meta was different. He was like Boxer. He could do anything he wanted and still win.

Eventually people were able to punish him for splitpushing.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-19 19:15:37
August 19 2012 19:11 GMT
#1012
On August 20 2012 01:32 Craton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2012 01:26 obesechicken13 wrote:
What are you talking about?
+ Show Spoiler +
4 legs means he obviously only needs 2 pairs of boots

Maybe you should take a look at the boot icons. You ain't buying a pair.

Then how come you're purchasing bootS of mobility/swiftness, not a boot of mobility/swiftness? Clearly it is implied multiple boots are included

Also nid is shit in teamfights outside of poking
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
August 19 2012 19:14 GMT
#1013
On August 20 2012 04:11 101toss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2012 01:32 Craton wrote:
On August 20 2012 01:26 obesechicken13 wrote:
What are you talking about?
+ Show Spoiler +
4 legs means he obviously only needs 2 pairs of boots

Maybe you should take a look at the boot icons. You ain't buying a pair.

Then how come you're purchasing bootS of mobility/swiftness, not a boot of mobility/swiftness? Clearly it is implied multiple boots are included

Russian boots, boots are stored inside the boots inside the boots inside the boots to save icon space.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Feartheguru
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1334 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-19 19:15:44
August 19 2012 19:14 GMT
#1014
On August 20 2012 02:30 JackDino wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2012 02:29 gtrsrs wrote:
i'm pretty sure everyone knows that jayce is a lane dominator
it's not like some well-kept secret that jayce/nidalee are good in lane
people aren't picking them up because their lategame presence is lacking
invisible? no. but as good as jax, riven, malphite, vladimir? ... not even close baby

Jayce belongs right in that list. High base damage, good scaling, a knockback, good poke and his acceleration gate is simply broken. 50% movespeed to the entire team.


Have you actually seen Jayce in games?
I always get annoyed when someone's tries to argue a certain champ is good by listing all the things in their kit. Like real man....
Don't sweat the petty stuff, don't pet the sweaty stuff.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17296 Posts
August 19 2012 19:15 GMT
#1015
On August 20 2012 04:02 obesechicken13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2012 02:25 Morfildur wrote:
On August 20 2012 01:48 obesechicken13 wrote:
On August 20 2012 01:44 h3r1n6 wrote:
Poppy is literally the worst champion at farming. She has ridiculously good scaling, but she can't get items. It's very possible to play her in soloqueue (point in case Zekent), but it's hard to impossible to get her farmed if your opponents play it right/pick Olaf.

Jayce is just not played because of the too many champions syndrome. First, people need to put effort in to learn an underplayed champion. Second, why play that nerdy Jayce guy when you can play some chick with big boobs.

I think jayce should get a big boobs skin. I have no idea why he's not played. I'm buying him today. Dude is literally broken in lane according to my math. Like every time he puts a point in Q it's like he's putting two points in Q, whereas another champion only gets one point.

Also relevant to the boots discussion.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Thanks for the horrible mental image of a Jayce with boobs...

np

I really like HSGG's nidalee but I don't think it fits in team comps anymore. He really couldn't teamfight as an AP and tried bruiser nidalee only briefly. Back when HSGG played nidalee in tournaments he was much better than everyone else and the meta was different. He was like Boxer. He could do anything he wanted and still win.

Eventually people were able to punish him for splitpushing.

CLG's poke comp w/ hotshot ap nid and jiji kog was one of the strongest lineups ever run.
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Abenson
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada4122 Posts
August 19 2012 19:15 GMT
#1016
On August 20 2012 04:14 JackDino wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2012 04:11 101toss wrote:
On August 20 2012 01:32 Craton wrote:
On August 20 2012 01:26 obesechicken13 wrote:
What are you talking about?
+ Show Spoiler +
4 legs means he obviously only needs 2 pairs of boots

Maybe you should take a look at the boot icons. You ain't buying a pair.

Then how come you're purchasing bootS of mobility/swiftness, not a boot of mobility/swiftness? Clearly it is implied multiple boots are included

Russian boots, boots are stored inside the boots inside the boots inside the boots to save icon space.


lol the boots argument again
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
August 19 2012 19:22 GMT
#1017
On August 20 2012 04:14 Feartheguru wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2012 02:30 JackDino wrote:
On August 20 2012 02:29 gtrsrs wrote:
i'm pretty sure everyone knows that jayce is a lane dominator
it's not like some well-kept secret that jayce/nidalee are good in lane
people aren't picking them up because their lategame presence is lacking
invisible? no. but as good as jax, riven, malphite, vladimir? ... not even close baby

Jayce belongs right in that list. High base damage, good scaling, a knockback, good poke and his acceleration gate is simply broken. 50% movespeed to the entire team.


Have you actually seen Jayce in games?
I always get annoyed when someone's tries to argue a certain champ is good by listing all the things in their kit. Like real man....

Yeah, and everytime I've seen him, regardless of team he's stomped lane and did what any other bruiser does in teamfights, aside from chasing 20 times better.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
August 19 2012 19:22 GMT
#1018
On August 20 2012 04:15 Craton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2012 04:02 obesechicken13 wrote:
On August 20 2012 02:25 Morfildur wrote:
On August 20 2012 01:48 obesechicken13 wrote:
On August 20 2012 01:44 h3r1n6 wrote:
Poppy is literally the worst champion at farming. She has ridiculously good scaling, but she can't get items. It's very possible to play her in soloqueue (point in case Zekent), but it's hard to impossible to get her farmed if your opponents play it right/pick Olaf.

Jayce is just not played because of the too many champions syndrome. First, people need to put effort in to learn an underplayed champion. Second, why play that nerdy Jayce guy when you can play some chick with big boobs.

I think jayce should get a big boobs skin. I have no idea why he's not played. I'm buying him today. Dude is literally broken in lane according to my math. Like every time he puts a point in Q it's like he's putting two points in Q, whereas another champion only gets one point.

Also relevant to the boots discussion.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Thanks for the horrible mental image of a Jayce with boobs...

np

I really like HSGG's nidalee but I don't think it fits in team comps anymore. He really couldn't teamfight as an AP and tried bruiser nidalee only briefly. Back when HSGG played nidalee in tournaments he was much better than everyone else and the meta was different. He was like Boxer. He could do anything he wanted and still win.

Eventually people were able to punish him for splitpushing.

CLG's poke comp w/ hotshot ap nid and jiji kog was one of the strongest lineups ever run.

My god. When old-school CLG.na executed perfect poke and disengage, unless you had a comp designed specifically to beat them you were never coming close to wining. And even then they'd still probably kill you with a million needles.

I miss the poke comps. Pity no other team can actually run it.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
August 19 2012 19:28 GMT
#1019
All I know is a Jayce with Trinity plus Phage (wut) can truck an Ezreal with Trinity plus IE and BT if no one peels. It's pretty crazy.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
RogerX
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
New Zealand3180 Posts
August 19 2012 19:42 GMT
#1020
On August 20 2012 02:24 IMoperator wrote:
Are people ever going to realize that draven is a really really good adc, especially in laning phase? Those axes man, they chunk hard.

Just give it a little bit more time, I've been seeing more Jayces to be honest but that might all just be luck.
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