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On August 29 2012 18:32 Sufficiency wrote:
I am so frustrated.
What should I do to become more map aware? I obviously know that I need to periodically look at the minimap, but I always find myself forgetting sometimes, especially when I am trying to make a play of some sort or distracted for some reason. This has been a problem to me since my early WC3 days, but WC3 wasn't really punishing on map awareness so this got slipped through.
What should I do to train myself so I can consistently look at the minimap? Any suggestions?
There was an old Day9 Daily about the basic things you need to do while playing SC2, and he was looking at the screen in a circle : the center, the ressources / psy, the minimap, the center, the ressources / psy, the minimap, etc. You can do that for a while and then it becomes a habit.
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I'm usually playing with friends so my way of map awareness is asking 'Where's the jungler/Has anyone seen the jungler' and watching the map every couple seconds. Reminding myself about their jungler makes me watch the map. Also playing a lot of support has helped me keep check of the mini map a lot.
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On August 29 2012 18:32 Sufficiency wrote:
I am so frustrated.
What should I do to become more map aware? I obviously know that I need to periodically look at the minimap, but I always find myself forgetting sometimes, especially when I am trying to make a play of some sort or distracted for some reason. This has been a problem to me since my early WC3 days, but WC3 wasn't really punishing on map awareness so this got slipped through.
What should I do to train myself so I can consistently look at the minimap? Any suggestions?
In lane, there's usually downtime between last hits. Creeps take damage at pretty predictable rates so if one isn't gonna die in the next second, glance at minimap. If you're either top/mid/ad, just glance at the wards you have near your lane, you don't need to care really about the other lanes unless your lane opponent is missing. As jungler/support, you should be watching the minimap constantly since really, you have little better to do.
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You can train yourself to only look at the minimap 90% of the time, using peripheral vision to gauge the minon's hp, I don't see many LoL players do this ever at the pro level (one of the azubu blaze players does though I think?). Also scrolling over enemies "avatar circle" on the minimap and reading their hp/mana can help in soloque, especially if you're jungle.
There's a lot of small things to consider that separate people, for example: good teemo player vs bad teemo player: The good teemo player will always place his mushrooms at corners of things, as that is the psychological run route of anyone fleeing or giving haste to an enemy/etc. Whereas the bad player just kinda plops them in the middle of random bushes/etc. Little things like this make a difference ~
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On August 29 2012 18:32 Sufficiency wrote:
I am so frustrated.
What should I do to become more map aware? I obviously know that I need to periodically look at the minimap, but I always find myself forgetting sometimes, especially when I am trying to make a play of some sort or distracted for some reason. This has been a problem to me since my early WC3 days, but WC3 wasn't really punishing on map awareness so this got slipped through.
What should I do to train myself so I can consistently look at the minimap? Any suggestions?
A good thing to do is, everytime you take a cs you look at your minimap. A certain manly player thought me that once.
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On August 29 2012 18:32 Sufficiency wrote:
I am so frustrated.
What should I do to become more map aware? I obviously know that I need to periodically look at the minimap, but I always find myself forgetting sometimes, especially when I am trying to make a play of some sort or distracted for some reason. This has been a problem to me since my early WC3 days, but WC3 wasn't really punishing on map awareness so this got slipped through.
What should I do to train myself so I can consistently look at the minimap? Any suggestions?
Put a sticky on your monitor.
I suggested to people that people put micro macro harass expand in BW. Though there really isn't much to do during laning other than look at minimap and game summary for cs/items, etc.
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On August 29 2012 18:32 Sufficiency wrote:
I am so frustrated.
What should I do to become more map aware? I obviously know that I need to periodically look at the minimap, but I always find myself forgetting sometimes, especially when I am trying to make a play of some sort or distracted for some reason. This has been a problem to me since my early WC3 days, but WC3 wasn't really punishing on map awareness so this got slipped through.
What should I do to train myself so I can consistently look at the minimap? Any suggestions?
On August 29 2012 18:35 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Also, jungling improves map awareness like 10x.
On August 29 2012 19:11 lastshadow wrote:
You can train yourself to only look at the minimap 90% of the time, using peripheral vision to gauge the minon's hp, I don't see many LoL players do this ever at the pro level (one of the azubu blaze players does though I think?).
These are the two tips I was gonna propose ^^ I used to tunnel vision the lane to like not miss any minion and stuff and only looked at the closest warded bush from time to time just in case, but when I started to only jungle I got used to watch at the minimap all the time and now no matter what role I play I spend more time watching the minimap than the screen lol. Also I feel like overdoing it is a great way to improve it. Since you know your map awareness is very weak, I suppose you naturally and involuntarily tend to disregard the minimap and focus on the screen. If you force yourself to play exclusively from the minimap, you will ultimately get used to it, even if you have to feed, misplay and lose cs for some games. In starcraft I have this issue which is that my hands are really slow, so there's always a huge delay between my thought processing and my manual execution. So what I tend to do is just overdo it and spam and be as unefficient as possible to simply get used to having high APM, no matter how efficient or useful it may be. When your eyes are used to the minimap, you will be able to go back to normal playing AND you will be aware of the minimap all the time. In the end I feel like it's just a matter of being able to move your visual focus back and forth repeatedly and effortlessly.
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On August 29 2012 18:32 Sufficiency wrote:
I am so frustrated.
What should I do to become more map aware? I obviously know that I need to periodically look at the minimap, but I always find myself forgetting sometimes, especially when I am trying to make a play of some sort or distracted for some reason. This has been a problem to me since my early WC3 days, but WC3 wasn't really punishing on map awareness so this got slipped through.
What should I do to train myself so I can consistently look at the minimap? Any suggestions?
You can pick up the chat box and move it to above or next to the minimap. Any time someone says something you look at the minimap.
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Related question: is there a way to shrink the minimap? I play at 1280x1024 because of my ancient monitor and minimap is just huge so I keep clicking on top right corner all the time.
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On August 29 2012 20:42 greggy wrote:
Related question: is there a way to shrink the minimap? I play at 1280x1024 because of my ancient monitor and minimap is just huge so I keep clicking on top right corner all the time.
UI scaling. Granted, it'd make everything else smaller, but it is a solution.
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Has that note thing been implemented yet? I can't put it on people. @__@
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On August 29 2012 20:42 greggy wrote:
Related question: is there a way to shrink the minimap? I play at 1280x1024 because of my ancient monitor and minimap is just huge so I keep clicking on top right corner all the time.
There an option in the in-game menu called minimap scaling or something. Might be useful.
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Something I find particularly useful as a jungler is using the F-keys to snap to each champion (Not at all unlike snapping to each base in BW or SC2)
I find it gives you the most quick but comprehensive information about how that lane is doing - Whos winning the harass war, who's pushed, how many creeps on each side are there (which tells you whether or not, in the next minute, if the pushing will change - VERY important when you're checking a lane that isn't nearby where you are in jungle.)
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Alright, I picked up leona and played her for a bit but one thing I'm sort of mixed about is level 2 aggression on leona and aggressive supports in general. Who should I be exhausting if the support is the person I've engaged on and chosen to nuke? Exhausting the support means that the support has -10 armor/mr which is pretty significant but exhausting the AD means that I'm at a much lower risk of dying and having it turn out to be a support kill exchange which isn't particularly beneficial.
At higher levels, exhausting the AD is a given but at low levels I'm mixed as to who's the better person to exhaust, especially if it's a support that's inherently tanky.
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On August 29 2012 18:32 Sufficiency wrote:
I am so frustrated.
What should I do to become more map aware? I obviously know that I need to periodically look at the minimap, but I always find myself forgetting sometimes, especially when I am trying to make a play of some sort or distracted for some reason. This has been a problem to me since my early WC3 days, but WC3 wasn't really punishing on map awareness so this got slipped through.
What should I do to train myself so I can consistently look at the minimap? Any suggestions?
I practiced with my car. While driving I made a point to be constantly aware of my surroundings. Glancing between each of the mirrors, looking at signs on the road, watching the sidewalks to see pedestrians, etc. Obviously you can't watch everything at once, but if you use peripheral vision and try to rotate between the instruments around you (like how someone mentioned Day[9]'s circle method) you can have a general idea of what's going on everywhere and give closer attention to important happenings. It was simple to apply the same to League.
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On August 29 2012 22:29 Lmui wrote:
Alright, I picked up leona and played her for a bit but one thing I'm sort of mixed about is level 2 aggression on leona and aggressive supports in general. Who should I be exhausting if the support is the person I've engaged on and chosen to nuke? Exhausting the support means that the support has -10 armor/mr which is pretty significant but exhausting the AD means that I'm at a much lower risk of dying and having it turn out to be a support kill exchange which isn't particularly beneficial.
At higher levels, exhausting the AD is a given but at low levels I'm mixed as to who's the better person to exhaust, especially if it's a support that's inherently tanky.
Hm. I tend to prefer the all-in on Leona at lvl 3 because you have full access to your whole skill rotation. You might not need the gap-closer if the other side plays badly, but the passive procs really add up and make a big difference. Then again, if you get the chance to kill at level 2, why pass it up right?
Anyway. In personal experience if it ends up in a protracted fight I Exhaust the AD Carry. If you're focusing the support, the other AD Carry has a chance to wail on your AD Carry. And even if you kill the other support, there's the risk of the AD killing your AD. Exhaust helps with that. In most cases, Exhaust will not really help kill the other Support that much. Especially since they can just Flash away and then you find yourself having blown everything and not actually killing anything.
It's a judgement call you have to learn to make. Will Exhausting the Support actually accomplish anything? If they can Flash out of range then it's obviously a waste. If you do the rapid math in your head and i guarantees the kill then go for it. Also, I tend not to get the 1 in Offence for boosted-Exhaust so I only ever see it as an instant damage reducer but I probably should. But I already consider my Support masteries very tight on spare points. Hm.
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On August 29 2012 18:32 Sufficiency wrote:
I am so frustrated.
What should I do to become more map aware? I obviously know that I need to periodically look at the minimap, but I always find myself forgetting sometimes, especially when I am trying to make a play of some sort or distracted for some reason. This has been a problem to me since my early WC3 days, but WC3 wasn't really punishing on map awareness so this got slipped through.
What should I do to train myself so I can consistently look at the minimap? Any suggestions?
When I used to play support and jungle I just got in the practice of staring at the minimap all game since I usually wasn't doing a lot. The habit carried over to when I played the other roles as well. The only junglers that take much concentration at all when farming are Lee and perhaps Riven, though if you are used to the characters you probably dont have an issue with that. I still have a bit of an issue when I'm playing AD carry though, there is a lot to keep track of in a duo lane. I seem to have gotten away with that because often the support is more map aware than I.
Whenever you get to a point that you find you are just staring at minions or your opponent waiting for something to happen, just try to glance at the minimap. Think to yourself "Do I need to be looking at this constantly?". If the answer is no you should just glance at the minimap.
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On a unrelated note, where is Rocketeer Tristana? Seriously, I know it's only Trist and not a huge deal for most people because they prefer other less push the lane and stronger midgame carries. However she was the first champion to peak my interest when I was looking over the champion pool. When I first started and then she turned out to be free via facebook so it worked out perfectly. So does anyone have any idea when that skin is actually coming out? It seems to of fallen off the radar.
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If I understood it well, Riot's going to take rankings at August 28th for season 2 rewards, so if for example I play another one and drop from 1400 to 1388 now, it won't impact said rewards, right?
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On August 29 2012 22:36 Ferrose wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2012 18:32 Sufficiency wrote:
I am so frustrated.
What should I do to become more map aware? I obviously know that I need to periodically look at the minimap, but I always find myself forgetting sometimes, especially when I am trying to make a play of some sort or distracted for some reason. This has been a problem to me since my early WC3 days, but WC3 wasn't really punishing on map awareness so this got slipped through.
What should I do to train myself so I can consistently look at the minimap? Any suggestions? I practiced with my car. While driving I made a point to be constantly aware of my surroundings. Glancing between each of the mirrors, looking at signs on the road, watching the sidewalks to see pedestrians, etc. Obviously you can't watch everything at once, but if you use peripheral vision and try to rotate between the instruments around you (like how someone mentioned Day[9]'s circle method) you can have a general idea of what's going on everywhere and give closer attention to important happenings. It was simple to apply the same to League.
What the fuck lol that's how you are supposed to drive in the first place.
You shouldn't be driving if you have tunnel vision in the car hahah
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