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On August 22 2012 17:11 Shiv. wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2012 14:40 Sufficiency wrote:
Please don't jungle with Diana. She is pretty bad at that role. While this might be true (I wouldn't know), she's a, lemme quote Smash on this, metric fuckton of fun to play in the jungle. Always clear in 3 seconds never lose more than 10% HP. Haven't played her in ranked because I suck balls at jungling, but in normals, she seems REALLY good if you manage to get ahead just a little. Snowballs so well. If I manage to get a second blue buff, I feel like I really have to mess up to not make a serious impact on the game any more. I mean, sure, she might not be the best, but she's INSANELY fun. Also, I've managed to get Kage/2xDoran's/Sorc/Deathcap in under 20 minutes every time I've jungled her, so that might explain the amounts of fun I had this far.
I guess I'm the only one who finds it hilarious that people go out of their way to say "metric fuckton" although a ton is more than a metric ton (No I don't care about the nonsensical american terms)
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On August 22 2012 17:52 TheKefka wrote:
mid is quicker.
wtf does that even mean?
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On August 22 2012 18:20 TheKefka wrote:
As I said I saw one do pretty bad and SV tweet his awful that's the full extent of my experience with rengar jungle,guess we wait and see.
Every Rengar I've seen is maxxing Q first, and just jungling so slowly that they almost can't gank without falling behind in farms.
Admittedly I'm kind of bad, but I've played 3 games with him and just carried obscenely hard. Pretty fast clears, stupid good ganks. You can run around with like GP10's and Oracles and just overgank Shyvana style because if you double W a camp with Ferocity you just clear so fast.
Bonetooth Neckless also really cost efficient, imo.
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On August 22 2012 18:26 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:wtf does that even mean?
You get more farm,more items,roam around and kill people.She is also by far the strongest during lane phase.
Aside from that it was just a reference to suicide solution lol
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how is this even an argument? Don't put a certain champion in the jungle because he can get more gold as a solo? Don't put Lee in jungle because he gets more farm as solo, don't jungle olaf because he's a better solo. Sufficiency is the one who was trying to convince me Diana should be built max CDR and with nashor's tooth, please do NOT listen to anything he says. Diana is a good jungle.
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On August 22 2012 18:24 Shikyo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2012 17:11 Shiv. wrote:On August 22 2012 14:40 Sufficiency wrote:
Please don't jungle with Diana. She is pretty bad at that role. While this might be true (I wouldn't know), she's a, lemme quote Smash on this, metric fuckton of fun to play in the jungle. Always clear in 3 seconds never lose more than 10% HP. Haven't played her in ranked because I suck balls at jungling, but in normals, she seems REALLY good if you manage to get ahead just a little. Snowballs so well. If I manage to get a second blue buff, I feel like I really have to mess up to not make a serious impact on the game any more. I mean, sure, she might not be the best, but she's INSANELY fun. Also, I've managed to get Kage/2xDoran's/Sorc/Deathcap in under 20 minutes every time I've jungled her, so that might explain the amounts of fun I had this far. I guess I'm the only one who finds it hilarious that people go out of their way to say "metric fuckton" although a ton is more than a metric ton (No I don't care about the nonsensical american terms)
Yes, you pretty much are.
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Just went 7-0-4 Cho vs a 0-5-0 Rengar, killed him like 3 times in his jungle just by warding wraiths and catching him at wraiths/red.
First impression of him is that he dies when he gets hit by rupture.
Also, I did that with aspd runes on accident because I typed "haha" without chat box selected and it took my jungle page.
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A fuckton is infinitely more than a ton though.
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On August 22 2012 19:02 Numy wrote:
A fuckton is infinitely more than a ton though.
But he doesn't care about the nonsensical American terms! How dare you!
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Just had 2 Jungle Rengar on the other team in a row. They died. ALOT. I don't know maybe the players sucked or Rengar isn't that good in the jungle I dont know.
In one game I was Ezreal and in teamfights the Rengar would try and jump on me to peel and I would kill him in like 2 secs and continue to do damage. I have yet to play against him top yet though so I'm waiting to see how he does in lane.
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Rengar feels absolutely useless. Top or Jungle I don't care. His laning is a bit strong early but doesn't make up for his awful teamfighting.
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On August 22 2012 19:04 Shiv. wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2012 19:02 Numy wrote:
A fuckton is infinitely more than a ton though. But he doesn't care about the nonsensical American terms! How dare you!
I wasn't referring to fuckton... i was referring to the 900kg ton
Disregarding that a ton is around 1.6% more than a metric ton... or was it 1.8? Not like any of this matters at all <_<;;
Humm humm oh right, Saint seems to work better with Curse than CLG from what I've seen, there's been much less arguing from what I've watched (Though I haven't watched much)
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On August 22 2012 18:26 iCanada wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2012 18:20 TheKefka wrote:
As I said I saw one do pretty bad and SV tweet his awful that's the full extent of my experience with rengar jungle,guess we wait and see. Every Rengar I've seen is maxxing Q first, and just jungling so slowly that they almost can't gank without falling behind in farms. Admittedly I'm kind of bad, but I've played 3 games with him and just carried obscenely hard. Pretty fast clears, stupid good ganks. You can run around with like GP10's and Oracles and just overgank Shyvana style because if you double W a camp with Ferocity you just clear so fast. Bonetooth Neckless also really cost efficient, imo.
Thats what i've been saying since yesterday. People keep maxing Q first eventhough W on level 2 does basically the same damage than Q on 5 and maxing it provides a ton more survivability.
Also, people keep building wriggles on him in the jungle. His W heals more than wriggles so why do that??
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On August 22 2012 19:10 HazMat wrote:
Rengar feels absolutely useless. Top or Jungle I don't care. His laning is a bit strong early but doesn't make up for his awful teamfighting.
that's because he is renekton 2.0
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I didn't bought Rengar but watched 3-5 games with him and with friends. We all agreed to say that he was completly useless in those games. He really can't do much, he doesn't damage a lot, he doesn't snare a lot (one guy...) and he is doesn't tank anything. All in all, nice skin, useless hero (well at the moment).
And he feel better top than in the jungle.
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On August 22 2012 19:28 Dusty wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2012 19:10 HazMat wrote:
Rengar feels absolutely useless. Top or Jungle I don't care. His laning is a bit strong early but doesn't make up for his awful teamfighting. that's because he is renekton 2.0
Id rather have 1 renekton in a teamfight on my side then 5 more rengars
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On August 22 2012 19:14 Shikyo wrote:
Humm humm oh right, Saint seems to work better with Curse than CLG from what I've seen, there's been much less arguing from what I've watched (Though I haven't watched much)
Agreed, they don't argue with him at all. I'm not sure if SV is currently in a position to lead a team. He seems to be in sort of a slump and hasn't been playing consistently. Seems like such a wild card at the moment, sometimes he'll take Shyvana and carry like MAD and on other occasions he just makes horrible calls and feeds. Not sure what's up with the kid. Anyway, I think if they manage to get over the whole ''let's blame Jacky'' thing, they might be able to raise some eyebrows at the finals.
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Yay, after checking into 10 spectator games i finally found a rengar player who maxes W first.. and what a suprise, he's actually useful unlike his Qing counterparts. He's also not building wriggles.
EDIT: Now he got a wriggles as second item eventhough he's on full health after every camp -.-
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IMO Rengar reminds me of Warwick. They are LVL 6 gankers, have slow jungles w/o items, and both have awesome sustain. Rengar's W is a lot like Warwick's Q in terms of sustain, and his Q is a lot like Warwick's W in terms of damage. Both their E's are gap closers, and their R's are powerful ganking tools. I suppose rengar has stronger pre 6 ganks, but he also has weaker post 6. They both have similar weaknesses
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On August 22 2012 20:39 czylu wrote:
IMO Rengar reminds me of Warwick. They are LVL 6 gankers, have slow jungles w/o items, and both have awesome sustain. Rengar's W is a lot like Warwick's Q in terms of sustain, and his Q is a lot like Warwick's W in terms of damage. Both their E's are gap closers, and their R's are powerful ganking tools. I suppose rengar has stronger pre 6 ganks, but he also has weaker post 6.
Rengar slow? Yes, his first clear is not his fastest but once W is on 5 he insta-clears camps. He can also gank either at level 2 or level 4, depending on when he decides to get the point in E.
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