EPT[Patch 1.0.0.144: Diana] General Discussion - Page 93
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
On August 09 2012 02:53 Perplex wrote: If the mid pulls it to the point where it would reset and the jungler is still within the leash range and attacking it, it won't reset. Maybe there's another cause that i've never encountered in all the games i've played, but i've been using the method i've described above for as long as I can remember and i've never had a reset happen. The resets I've seen lately are when the small lizards run into the bush ahead of the golem and then it tries to circumnavigate them in an awkward way. It doesn't happen often, but it's pretty annoying when it does. | ||
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Takkara
United States2503 Posts
On August 09 2012 02:58 wei2coolman wrote: Is there such a thing as a bad leash? they just need to autoattack once and walk away... the person doing msot of the damage upon leash should be your top lane or botlane, respectively. or that's i usually have it done..... Nearly every time that blue resets on me, it happens on blue side. The top laner doesn't help with the pull, and my mid laner compensates by trying to give me a heavy pull instead of a quick shot over the wall. If the mid-laner lingers too long and ends up dragging the golem (in melee range) too far around the corner in the brush, the buff will reset if you try to follow it into the brush. Usually if the person just leaves sooner or if they leave the way a top-laner would leave or if they just don't pull it so far into the brush, it usually works just fine. I haven't played enough jungle in the last month or two to really narrow down when it happens. I'm sure I'm not doing something to properly mitigate the problem, but I can be 100% certain that I'm not on the "bad" side of the buff when it resets. I'm always between the buff mob and its spawn point. | ||
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sung_moon
United States10110 Posts
On August 09 2012 02:48 AsmodeusXI wrote: I love GP10 quints any time where I don't wanna play a super aggresive support (except Leona where all I do is sword leap all day regardless of MS). My blues are generally MR, but I bet even more GP10 would be awesome. More money = more wards = better support and game overall. Lol I would get MS quints for jungling/ alistar/blitz support but I don't wanna spend 2k for a quint  Do runes ever go on sale? | ||
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Terranasaur
United States2085 Posts
On August 09 2012 03:14 sung_moon wrote: Lol I would get MS quints for jungling/ alistar/blitz support but I don't wanna spend 2k for a quint Do runes ever go on sale? Usually only around holidays. Halloween/Christmas last year had some Sale Quints I believe... | ||
AsmodeusXI
United States15536 Posts
On August 09 2012 03:14 sung_moon wrote: Lol I would get MS quints for jungling/ alistar/blitz support but I don't wanna spend 2k for a quint Do runes ever go on sale? For events only, but you have to be careful and make sure they aren't less powerful than normal runes. One of my MS is from the last Winter Sale. Edit: NINJA'D AGAIN. | ||
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Deleted User 101379
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On August 09 2012 03:07 Takkara wrote: Nearly every time that blue resets on me, it happens on blue side. The top laner doesn't help with the pull, and my mid laner compensates by trying to give me a heavy pull instead of a quick shot over the wall. If the mid-laner lingers too long and ends up dragging the golem (in melee range) too far around the corner in the brush, the buff will reset if you try to follow it into the brush. Usually if the person just leaves sooner or if they leave the way a top-laner would leave or if they just don't pull it so far into the brush, it usually works just fine. I haven't played enough jungle in the last month or two to really narrow down when it happens. I'm sure I'm not doing something to properly mitigate the problem, but I can be 100% certain that I'm not on the "bad" side of the buff when it resets. I'm always between the buff mob and its spawn point. From what i understand, leashes work better if you are not in the brush. If the golem loses sight on you even for a split second, it resets. Then again, i only have anecdotal evidence towards that and haven't scientifically tested it. | ||
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Jaso
United States2147 Posts
On August 09 2012 03:14 sung_moon wrote: Lol I would get MS quints for jungling/ alistar/blitz support but I don't wanna spend 2k for a quint Do runes ever go on sale? I got my MS quints from the Razer event during Season 1 championship or something. Hoarded a bunch of codes.. lemme check if I have any for you :D | ||
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greggy
United Kingdom1483 Posts
Now, if only they learnt not to get caught by the opposing team's invade.. | ||
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barbsq
United States5348 Posts
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Razith
Canada431 Posts
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TheKefka
Croatia11752 Posts
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On August 09 2012 03:59 Razith wrote: All this talk about leashing, I just want to clarify how its done. I simply just cast an ability over the tree's to get the blue buff's attention, then run back to mid. Is that enough of a leash, or am I supposed to mess the AI for a bit somehow? That's a basic enough leash, your jungler should be fine from there. If you really want to help a lot (which we junglers appreciate), you can get a couple more attacks on it for more damage, or you can run back and forth behind the "curve" of the Blue/Red spawn, which messes with the pathing, forcing it to dance in place for free damage. I'll try to find a video for you, learning to do a hard leash as mid makes the jungle's job much, much easier, especially since it allows us to skip the first smite and go straight Blue-Red or Red-Blue | ||
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Gahlo
United States35172 Posts
On August 09 2012 03:59 Razith wrote: All this talk about leashing, I just want to clarify how its done. I simply just cast an ability over the tree's to get the blue buff's attention, then run back to mid. Is that enough of a leash, or am I supposed to mess the AI for a bit somehow? That works for a normal leash. Hard leashes throw in an auto or two. There's also a way to fuck with the AI by changing it's pathing to you over and over, but not fast enough to cancel the leash. EDIT:Shen'd | ||
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LaNague
Germany9118 Posts
i dont know why people have problems with getting a good pull. When they started to get 100k+ people watching streams and saintvicious having 20k people watching at all times, the quality of my leashes went up considerably. | ||
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TheKefka
Croatia11752 Posts
On August 09 2012 04:02 Requizen wrote: That's a basic enough leash, your jungler should be fine from there. If you really want to help a lot (which we junglers appreciate), you can get a couple more attacks on it for more damage, or you can run back and forth behind the "curve" of the Blue/Red spawn, which messes with the pathing, forcing it to dance in place for free damage. I'll try to find a video for you, learning to do a hard leash as mid makes the jungle's job much, much easier, especially since it allows us to skip the first smite and go straight Blue-Red or Red-Blue Yea don't do that,as I said if the way it tends to happen with a reset is if it runs to far and than freaks out because your autoing it too much,you are not responsible for the damage on a hard leash,it's the mid and top lane that need to help in that aspect you just need to pull it that's all. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On August 09 2012 04:04 TheKefka wrote: Yea don't do that,as I said if the way it tends to happen with a reset is if it runs to far because your autoing it too much,you are not responsible for the damage on a hard leash,it's the mid and top lane that need to help in that aspect you just need to pull it that's all. Is that really what makes it bug? I've had it bug out from just a spell before, I think something in the AI is just wonky as fuck. | ||
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TheKefka
Croatia11752 Posts
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
@Razith, just hit it with a spell. Most junglers aren't expecting any more than that, so don't worry about it. | ||
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barbsq
United States5348 Posts
On August 09 2012 04:04 TheKefka wrote: Yea don't do that,as I said if the way it tends to happen with a reset is if it runs to far and than freaks out because your autoing it too much,you are not responsible for the damage on a hard leash,it's the mid and top lane that need to help in that aspect you just need to pull it that's all. there's a window of time at which the leash is broken and it reaggros to the jungler. If you fuck around with it in that time period, you can have it reaggro back to you, and not the jungler, making some janky shit happen with the buff. the rule of thumb for me is to not attack it in any way from once it's about to hit the brush until after it has reaggroed to the jungler. Literally every time i've leashed it a second time before it aggroing to the jungler, it has fucked up in some way. edit: in my experience, autoing it a couple of times from when it starts walking to abt when it hits the brush is perfectly fine | ||
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