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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On August 09 2012 02:23 WirelessWaffle wrote: Any zyra players have opinions on her after the nerfs? She's still fine. They hit what they needed to hit (her safety). People won't be able to derp as much, but I think the people who know how to play smart will pull away from the bads because of it. | ||
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mordek
United States12705 Posts
On August 09 2012 02:25 arb wrote: Actually what you do when they refuse to leash for you is, you dont touch their lane. And when they proceed to feed and be like, JUNGLE WHY YOU NO GANK. You say what i always say "you remember when i needed help on blue? yeah so do i" then ignore them the rest of the game. usually some big luls happen I don't know if that make NEOtheONE feel more comfortable buying boots though  But yes, if that happened to me I would be quick to that out. Then I make them say they are sorry in all chat. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
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Mondeezy
United States1938 Posts
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JackDino
Gabon6219 Posts
On August 09 2012 02:25 arb wrote: Actually what you do when they refuse to leash for you is, you dont touch their lane. And when they proceed to feed and be like, JUNGLE WHY YOU NO GANK. You say what i always say "you remember when i needed help on blue? yeah so do i" then ignore them the rest of the game. usually some big luls happen Yeah and then you lose the game because they got trashed in lane and it's 4v6. | ||
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101toss
3232 Posts
On August 09 2012 02:31 wei2coolman wrote: I don't think I've ever had an issue going boots 3pot, even with a bad leash... Unless you're playing a champ that's not meant to jungle, and even then.... I start boots 3 pot on my jungle veigar. JUST SAYING. Ppl like to go philo first, which is ok. You trade ganking power for farm, but most ppl prefer ganks | ||
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arb
Noobville17922 Posts
On August 09 2012 02:32 JackDino wrote: Yeah and then you lose the game because they got trashed in lane and it's 4v6. They dont give a shit about helping me I don't give a shit about them either. simple, i have all the runes and all the champions losing a game doesnt really bother me personally. For others they may not approve of my method, but to each their own | ||
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
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Perplex
United States1693 Posts
On August 09 2012 02:02 NEOtheONE wrote: Lol, no they still happen all the darn time. I keep getting people who end up resetting the buffs on me, so this route let me avoid all that drama. actually any time the jungle camp resets, it's 100% the jungler's fault. That's because there is a foolproof way to prevent resets from happening, and if the jungler isn't using this to his advantage then it's his fault when the buff resets. All you have to do is stand between the buff and it's original spawn location. If you're in the bush at blue, and you're in front of the golem while auto attacking it, it's possible it could reset. However if you're standing behind the golem (between the golem and it's spawn point) it will never reset. | ||
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Jaso
United States2147 Posts
I'm considering investing in them for support, but I don't really know much about them. Only time I've actually seen them used is when General OddOne played Nunu with gp5 items+runes. Also, what quints would be better for Janna - MS (which I already have) or GP10, and what glyphs are best? I run some mana/scaling MR right now. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On August 09 2012 02:24 ViZe wrote: That specific comp (3 supports + tank + Kog) was nerfed but I think the only thing that would stop the idea of protect the Kog is nerfing Kog's W damage and range. I mean there are plenty of champions that have come into the meta that still allow it to happen - Nunu was buffed and is viable for jungle, top lane, and support; Sona was buffed (ult is really good for peeling), Janna is just as good outside of lane, just slightly worse in lane; Morgana is still played mid, Heavy CC/peeling jungler is now the norm; Kayle is now played at high level etc. Viable, of course. You could do a Singed, Nunu, Ali, Janna, Kog comp and get a similar "feel" but the results aren't the same. Lulu and Soraka could do their stuff on a sustained basis, and even more importantly, Kog was actually turned into a tank. | ||
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MooMooMugi
United States10531 Posts
MS quints on Janna is kinda counterproductive since you already have massive movespeed from your W anyways MR glyphs are fine, mana glyphs not so much unless you're playing a support like sona who spams a lot, but even so you shouldn't be OOM unless you can't manage your mana. | ||
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ViZe
United States1513 Posts
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SnK-Arcbound
United States4423 Posts
On August 09 2012 02:37 Perplex wrote: actually any time the jungle camp resets, it's 100% the jungler's fault. That's because there is a foolproof way to prevent resets from happening, and if the jungler isn't using this to his advantage then it's his fault when the buff resets. All you have to do is stand between the buff and it's original spawn location. If you're in the bush at blue, and you're in front of the golem while auto attacking it, it's possible it could reset. However if you're standing behind the golem (between the golem and it's spawn point) it will never reset. Wrong. Mid lane can over pull the buff and have it reset. | ||
AsmodeusXI
United States15536 Posts
On August 09 2012 02:38 Jaso wrote: What are your guys opinions on GP10 seals/quints? I'm considering investing in them for support, but I don't really know much about them. Only time I've actually seen them used is when General OddOne played Nunu with gp5 items+runes. Also, what quints would be better for Janna - MS (which I already have) or GP10, and what glyphs are best? I run some mana/scaling MR right now. I love GP10 quints any time where I don't wanna play a super aggresive support (except Leona where all I do is sword leap all day regardless of MS). My blues are generally MR, but I bet even more GP10 would be awesome. More money = more wards = better support and game overall. | ||
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
On August 09 2012 02:37 Perplex wrote: actually any time the jungle camp resets, it's 100% the jungler's fault. That's because there is a foolproof way to prevent resets from happening, and if the jungler isn't using this to his advantage then it's his fault when the buff resets. All you have to do is stand between the buff and it's original spawn location. If you're in the bush at blue, and you're in front of the golem while auto attacking it, it's possible it could reset. However if you're standing behind the golem (between the golem and it's spawn point) it will never reset. It really isn't as I've done just that following blue into brush and still it resets even after the buff aggro update. Bad mids make bad leashes. | ||
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bmn
886 Posts
On August 09 2012 02:34 arb wrote: They dont give a shit about helping me I don't give a shit about them either. simple, i have all the runes and all the champions losing a game doesnt really bother me personally. For others they may not approve of my method, but to each their own When you say "some big luls happen" you mean your team spends the rest of the time raging at one another and playing really badly? I don't care about losing a game, but games where people intentionally act like jerks to one another do bother me. If it doesn't bother you, there's no reason to ever help the lane in the first place, regardless of what they do. Edit: Just to make it clear, I'm not telling you how to act. But telling people playing with low-elo or newbie teams to basically say "leash or I afk" (except not helping top no matter what won't get you banned) is not advice I would encourage, at least if your goal is to make your games less hostile and/or you care about winning. | ||
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Perplex
United States1693 Posts
On August 09 2012 02:45 SnK-Arcbound wrote: Wrong. Mid lane can over pull the buff and have it reset. If the mid pulls it to the point where it would reset and the jungler is still within the leash range and attacking it, it won't reset. Maybe there's another cause that i've never encountered in all the games i've played, but i've been using the method i've described above for as long as I can remember and i've never had a reset happen. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On August 09 2012 02:50 obesechicken13 wrote: It really isn't as I've done just that following blue into brush and still it resets even after the buff aggro update. Bad mids make bad leashes. Is there such a thing as a bad leash? they just need to autoattack once and walk away... the person doing msot of the damage upon leash should be your top lane or botlane, respectively. or that's i usually have it done..... | ||
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Gahlo
United States35172 Posts
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