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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
August 07 2012 21:42 GMT
#1541
lol if you max w on diana she takes like no damage in jungle and clears super fast
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
August 07 2012 21:47 GMT
#1542
On August 08 2012 06:38 ViZe wrote:
Pros coming here is not something that I would mind. I would mind it if a lot of their fanbase accompanied them, however. The last thing I want is for the GD's here to turn into what the SC2 forums have become. I really like the way this forum is now, with recognizable figures and regular posters with whom I am familiar. I mean just looking at this page above I recognize every single name from numerous posts in previous GDs etc.

This is probably just a function of my introvertive personality though

No, you're right. I like the smaller community. But to be honest, even if their fanbase accompanies them, they'll just be banned out pretty fast (more work for Neo, sorry bud). Not to mention, this subforum can be pretty harsh, especially if the post is about rushing fmallet on sej, or getting 2pd's on hecarim.

liftlift > tsm
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
August 07 2012 21:48 GMT
#1543
On August 08 2012 06:47 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2012 06:38 ViZe wrote:
Pros coming here is not something that I would mind. I would mind it if a lot of their fanbase accompanied them, however. The last thing I want is for the GD's here to turn into what the SC2 forums have become. I really like the way this forum is now, with recognizable figures and regular posters with whom I am familiar. I mean just looking at this page above I recognize every single name from numerous posts in previous GDs etc.

This is probably just a function of my introvertive personality though

No, you're right. I like the smaller community. But to be honest, even if their fanbase accompanies them, they'll just be banned out pretty fast (more work for Neo, sorry bud). Not to mention, this subforum can be pretty harsh, especially if the post is about rushing fmallet on sej, or getting 2pd's on hecarim.


Or the old top eve
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
August 07 2012 21:53 GMT
#1544
On August 08 2012 06:47 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2012 06:38 ViZe wrote:
Pros coming here is not something that I would mind. I would mind it if a lot of their fanbase accompanied them, however. The last thing I want is for the GD's here to turn into what the SC2 forums have become. I really like the way this forum is now, with recognizable figures and regular posters with whom I am familiar. I mean just looking at this page above I recognize every single name from numerous posts in previous GDs etc.

This is probably just a function of my introvertive personality though

No, you're right. I like the smaller community. But to be honest, even if their fanbase accompanies them, they'll just be banned out pretty fast (more work for Neo, sorry bud). Not to mention, this subforum can be pretty harsh, especially if the post is about rushing fmallet on sej, or getting 2pd's on hecarim.


You wouldn't be talking about any posters in particular, would you? Of course not, we don't single out anyone like that.

On topic, I first thought "of course at least some pros are aware of TL LoL", but the more I think about it, the more I realize that there are things that they wouldn't do if they did visit here. For instance, after the HoG change, we all pretty much agreed that it was a bad buy on most champions that aren't rushing Randuin's (and even then still kind of meh), but it's still consistently bought. They seem as shocked as most by top Nunu on streams, and didn't pick up on Viktor as quick as Soniv did. There might be some, but of the things we talk about/play on here are still relatively private.
It's your boy Guzma!
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
August 07 2012 21:54 GMT
#1545
Argh... beaten the first game I can play by faster Diana picker. =( Have to wait to try...
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
August 07 2012 21:55 GMT
#1546
On August 08 2012 06:28 sylverfyre wrote:
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On August 08 2012 05:23 TheYango wrote:
On August 08 2012 05:08 JackDino wrote:
Her E doesn't even do any damage and she has to be in the middle of it, ori can just put her ball on like a malph and devastate a team.

Orianna ultimate combos with a few specific heroes that can create those abusive interactions. Not to mention a lot of those heroes are already high ban/pick priority anyway.

Diana's R+E combos with almost every AoE damage dealer in the game, with varying degrees of potency.

By itself, it's mediocre--it's strength is in how it interacts with a wide array of other skills so smoothly. From the perspective of a competitive draft, she's hard to pick against because once a team grabs her first-pick, there are suddenly a lot of champions that you otherwise wouldn't have to worry about picking against that have the potential to create extremely potent combos.

I dunno, Orianna synergizes with pretty much any diving bruiser. Shyvana is the most obvious, but she can get those same combos with xin, irelia, and others.

The fact that Orianna is getting a truckload of damage on her RW like that makes it very very different from Dianna's E, however. That damage is as much or more of a threat than the CC is. Also, unlike some assassins like Leblanc, Akali, Fizz - Diana commits when she dives, and she commits hard. Nowhere in her kit is something that lets her dive back out of a fight the way that Akali stealths, Leblanc returns to a previous location, or Fizz trollpolls away. This is part of why I think she's going to be ending up more similar to an Irelia or Xin Zhao in role than a Fizz or Akali.

Maybe not with xin. Xin's ult knocks people away. Oriana's tries to draw them near/flip them to the other side.

On August 08 2012 06:38 ViZe wrote:
Pros coming here is not something that I would mind. I would mind it if a lot of their fanbase accompanied them, however. The last thing I want is for the GD's here to turn into what the SC2 forums have become. I really like the way this forum is now, with recognizable figures and regular posters with whom I am familiar. I mean just looking at this page above I recognize every single name from numerous posts in previous GDs etc.

This is probably just a function of my introvertive personality though

Yeah it's a nice small community.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
August 07 2012 22:00 GMT
#1547
DreamyAnt playing Swain in the Solomid invitational right now. Too poor for MS quints it seems too, only has the Halloween ones
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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
August 07 2012 22:02 GMT
#1548
did they ban irelia or something? he shit on people with her in go4lol and just carried last game
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
August 07 2012 22:08 GMT
#1549
On August 08 2012 07:02 zulu_nation8 wrote:
did they ban irelia or something? he shit on people with her in go4lol and just carried last game

Ali, Malph, Vlad / Yorick, Shen Noct the respective bans for TSM/unR so I guess he just wanted to be a boss and caw caw caw.
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Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-07 22:17:05
August 07 2012 22:15 GMT
#1550
On August 08 2012 06:53 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2012 06:47 wei2coolman wrote:
On August 08 2012 06:38 ViZe wrote:
Pros coming here is not something that I would mind. I would mind it if a lot of their fanbase accompanied them, however. The last thing I want is for the GD's here to turn into what the SC2 forums have become. I really like the way this forum is now, with recognizable figures and regular posters with whom I am familiar. I mean just looking at this page above I recognize every single name from numerous posts in previous GDs etc.

This is probably just a function of my introvertive personality though

No, you're right. I like the smaller community. But to be honest, even if their fanbase accompanies them, they'll just be banned out pretty fast (more work for Neo, sorry bud). Not to mention, this subforum can be pretty harsh, especially if the post is about rushing fmallet on sej, or getting 2pd's on hecarim.


You wouldn't be talking about any posters in particular, would you? Of course not, we don't single out anyone like that.

On topic, I first thought "of course at least some pros are aware of TL LoL", but the more I think about it, the more I realize that there are things that they wouldn't do if they did visit here. For instance, after the HoG change, we all pretty much agreed that it was a bad buy on most champions that aren't rushing Randuin's (and even then still kind of meh), but it's still consistently bought. They seem as shocked as most by top Nunu on streams, and didn't pick up on Viktor as quick as Soniv did. There might be some, but of the things we talk about/play on here are still relatively private.


The majority of pro players, and players in general, tend to wait for other players to figure something out before experimenting with it. Yeah, you'll see pro players mess around with something briefly, but you never see the sort of dedicated, persistent experimentation that lead to Nunu top.

So lots of great ideas tend to die instantly because they're only ideas. Until somebody actually proves them to be more than that in a practical situation they might as well not exist as far as most people are concerned.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 07 2012 22:19 GMT
#1551
I don't have a problem with the recent Reddit post whoring and all for exposure and whatnot, but I remember I was fairly recently told not to advertise my stream for similar reasons ('better to keep the community small,' 'we don't want all the Redditors swarming all over TL/LP').

I understand the feelings we have here, especially since my stream would directly expose LiquidPractice to the masses and there is no way to moderate it, but I can't help but feel a little hypocrisy going on.
Mebbe I'm just butthurt 'cause I can't get e-famous, I dunno.
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Dalguno
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2446 Posts
August 07 2012 22:20 GMT
#1552
So as far as jungling Diana:

I've been going 21-9-0, with flat MPen Reds, Armor Yellows, AP/level blues, Flat HP quints (I don't have many runes yet, just my standard AP runes), and maxing Q first. Is this good/bad? Any recommendations?
"I'm gonna keep making drones cause I'm a baller, and ballers make drones." -Snute
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17268 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-07 22:29:39
August 07 2012 22:28 GMT
#1553
On August 07 2012 20:31 Lmui wrote:
The difference in skill from 1650 to 1500 is stupid though.

So stupid that the difference is nearly nonexistent.

You can't feel a difference at such close Elo ranges.


On August 08 2012 01:28 MooMooMugi wrote:
Ionno mang ARAM pretty try hard, I see these players like GANDHISAUCE and MCMILO try so hard to kill me ;____;

You don't need to try very hard to kill Mugi.
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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
August 07 2012 22:39 GMT
#1554
ive been maxing W on diana jungle
Ente
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1795 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-07 22:40:24
August 07 2012 22:39 GMT
#1555
Pros coming here is not something that I would mind

im not a "first class" pro but im quite up there ^.^ but following ~80 side discussions is pretty hard so I usually dont post in those patch discussion thingies

a bit more ontopic: Diana seems incredible incredible strong maybe just cause people couldnt play against her but I saw her twice in midlane and twice really hard raping (once in jungle with a bit less impact but still pretty strong)


On topic, I first thought "of course at least some pros are aware of TL LoL", but the more I think about it, the more I realize that there are things that they wouldn't do if they did visit here. For instance, after the HoG change, we all pretty much agreed that it was a bad buy on most champions that aren't rushing Randuin's

Oh you dear sir have no clue how stupid pro gamers are and how little math/thought they put into things (just do some LW calculations and you will realize that its not the best item in the world I need to fucking get it (esp on Kogmaw/Vayne and others)


Edit: I only use Teamliquid.net though the ingame chats I cant really be in due to people trolling the shit out of them when I stream (that happened before...)
lol acc: Entenzwerg EUW http://www.twitch.tv/Entenzwerg league of legends stream (challenger EuW)
epoc
Profile Joined December 2010
Finland1190 Posts
August 07 2012 22:46 GMT
#1556
Did you get rp at summoner lv 5 or something? How much? Or was it 3?
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
August 07 2012 22:47 GMT
#1557
On August 08 2012 07:46 epoc wrote:
Did you get rp at summoner lv 5 or something? How much? Or was it 3?

400 at lvl 3 AFAIR

It's 400 for sure
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
August 07 2012 22:50 GMT
#1558
On August 08 2012 06:11 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
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On August 08 2012 06:08 wei2coolman wrote:
The only top tier pro player that has been here, (to my knowledge) was locodoco, and he doesn't even post that much anymore.

Loci, TreeEski, Lexvink have all been on TL at one point or another as well.

Didn't Link115 also post here every once in a while?
currently rooting for myself.
Vaporized
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1471 Posts
August 07 2012 22:57 GMT
#1559
On August 08 2012 07:20 Dalguno wrote:
So as far as jungling Diana:

I've been going 21-9-0, with flat MPen Reds, Armor Yellows, AP/level blues, Flat HP quints (I don't have many runes yet, just my standard AP runes), and maxing Q first. Is this good/bad? Any recommendations?

if u can get flat ap quints i would recommened that. hp probably not a bad choice overall tho.

i max q first also, but start w-q-w-e.

for items - i tried guise, sorc boots, abyssal, malady and i didnt really like it.

i went hextech - dcap in my next game and that just seems better. maybe guise-dcap would be good too but we had 3 ap this game and me and morde both decided to go wota. guess ill try guise - dcap next game.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
August 07 2012 23:01 GMT
#1560
i dont think you need hextech, philo is all you need for sustain, she should be built tanky imo, maybe dcap as a late item
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