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Just play like udyr, philo hog mercs wits end shurelyas randuins. I've tried all the ap stuff and at least in jungle you probably can't get away with it. Meanwhile as a tank you've got a huge gap closer and pull+slow if you want to abuse your tankiness it's like nautilus on steriods.
Deathcap seems like the AP item that makes most sense, spell pen isn't amazing because your scaling outshines your base damage and your assassining is more like akali than ahri style bursting so DFG doesn't seem like the best either. Zonyas doesn't make much sense so it leaves just deathcap/void/rylais for ap.
A level 18 zyra has 150 less hp and 6 less armour than a level 18 udyr. Meanwhile your shield is similar potentially better (lower cd but higher shield if you get it double) and scales with ap better but more importantly you have a low cd gap closer and a ranged harass and pull meaning you can do damage without walking into their team taking damage all the way. Not sure if her base damage is enough to justify this style of play though.
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thought about hextec but only 1 move is single target
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On August 08 2012 08:03 Slayer91 wrote:
Just play like udyr, philo hog mercs wits end shurelyas randuins. I've tried all the ap stuff and at least in jungle you probably can't get away with it. Meanwhile as a tank you've got a huge gap closer and pull+slow if you want to abuse your tankiness it's like nautilus on steriods.
I like Abyssal better than Wit's for damage+MR. You have much higher AP ratios than Udyr, and generally speaking, you're setting up other magic damage dealers with your E already, so the MR reduction helps more than just you.
Wit's is the obvious alternative if your AP is faster about getting Abyssal.
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I don't understand why Reginald tries for months now to learn TF of all champions. His existing roster works fine against NA/EU players, and TF is the mid of choice in Asia - so that won't give him an advantage there. In my opinion he should learn a somewhat viable niche pick that is uncommon on all servers to increase its effect...
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i think hes played TF in tournies way back, he's not an easy champion to play well unlike ahri. But if he TFs oddone can play more gank oriented junglers like noct/olaf, right now all oddone plays is maokai/nunu, tanks that dont need to build damage and are just a meatshield in fights.
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TF has so much map control. You just need to not fk sk early game and get set behind.
TF would be a big threat in Regi's arsenal if he learned it properly but he's so aggro in lane. TF is pretty passive early.
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played diana top one game vs malphite and it seemed pretty good. Her W lets you trade very well.
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k, diana hilarious fun
snowball so hard
Running her with 9/21/0 and my Gragas runes (hp/5/lvl yellows) into tanky ap build.
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out of all the jungle dianas i have seen, i like udyana the best.
need more testing :D
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On August 08 2012 07:19 WaveofShadow wrote:
I don't have a problem with the recent Reddit post whoring and all for exposure and whatnot, but I remember I was fairly recently told not to advertise my stream for similar reasons ('better to keep the community small,' 'we don't want all the Redditors swarming all over TL/LP').
I understand the feelings we have here, especially since my stream would directly expose LiquidPractice to the masses and there is no way to moderate it, but I can't help but feel a little hypocrisy going on.
Mebbe I'm just butthurt 'cause I can't get e-famous, I dunno.
I think there are two major differences:
1) Smash's nunu guide, Shake's lee video, and the MLG write up all did well on reddit and mention TL, but they dont' explicitly invite users to join. People are obviously welcome to register if they want to, but it's not an open invitation like saying "hey, come watch this stream and play in these custom games!".
2) People brought from "the outside" to this subforum who just want to post can be moderated and banned just like everyone else. It can never get out of hand because we have mods. In LiquidPractice on the other hand, we literally have 0 control. People could troll, flame, or leave games and we wouldn't have any way to stop it from happening again. For this reason it's better to keep LiquidPractice internal (as best we can anyway).
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On August 08 2012 08:25 Perplex wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2012 07:19 WaveofShadow wrote:
I don't have a problem with the recent Reddit post whoring and all for exposure and whatnot, but I remember I was fairly recently told not to advertise my stream for similar reasons ('better to keep the community small,' 'we don't want all the Redditors swarming all over TL/LP').
I understand the feelings we have here, especially since my stream would directly expose LiquidPractice to the masses and there is no way to moderate it, but I can't help but feel a little hypocrisy going on.
Mebbe I'm just butthurt 'cause I can't get e-famous, I dunno. I think there are two major differences: 1) Smash's nunu guide, Shake's lee video, and the MLG write up all did well on reddit and mention TL, but they dont' explicitly invite users to join. People are obviously welcome to register if they want to, but it's not an open invitation like saying "hey, come watch this stream and play in these custom games!". 2) People brought from "the outside" to this subforum who just want to post can be moderated and banned just like everyone else. It can never get out of hand because we have mods. In LiquidPractice on the other hand, we literally have 0 control. People could troll, flame, or leave games and we wouldn't have any way to stop it from happening again. For this reason it's better to keep LiquidPractice internal (as best we can anyway).
Oh I know. It all makes sense to me. I'll figure out the secret sooner or later!
In other news I think the job thing preventing me from doing the Olympics may not be happening, so it's looking like they can mebbe start next week!
I'll update when I'm sure.
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On August 08 2012 08:23 LaNague wrote:
out of all the jungle dianas i have seen, i like udyana the best.
need more testing :D
Udyana? Wits+Tank items?
Edit: Nvm, I see the post now.
I'm inclined to agree, though I want to add that her base numbers aren't bad by any stretch (especially with how often she can use the damaging ones - her E has a longer CD than her non-refresh ulti.) so I don't think MPen is BAD (Though you might or might not not be the best carrier for Abyssal on your team.)
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On August 08 2012 08:33 sylverfyre wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2012 08:23 LaNague wrote:
out of all the jungle dianas i have seen, i like udyana the best.
need more testing :D Udyana? Wits+Tank items?
oh, udyr-diana. like teut slayer posted.
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Can Zyra's utility and early harass/zoning make her a possible support pick? She seems like she could really give a good advantage to her ad carry early on, enough so that her falling off a bit harder than other supports shouldn't matter too much.
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Fucking riot keeps making super strong champions so they get sales, Draven, Darius, Zyra, now Diana.
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On August 08 2012 08:52 IMoperator wrote:
Fucking riot keeps making super strong champions so they get sales, Draven, Darius, Zyra, now Diana.
Draven on that list wut.
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Someone play hotfix Zyra and report back! I'm anxious to see how the nerfs have changed her
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United States15536 Posts
Played some Diana... I'm probably just bad at jungle, but it seemed hard. =( Kept dying, so maybe I'll try the tankier build next time. I WILL GET GOOD AT THIS CHAMP.
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On August 08 2012 08:55 Goshawk. wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2012 08:52 IMoperator wrote:
Fucking riot keeps making super strong champions so they get sales, Draven, Darius, Zyra, now Diana. Draven on that list wut.
Draven and no Jayce?
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Man, lux is too fun. Her shield is so hilarious with 600+ AP.
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