Whoops misread that I guess.

Her passive is a .2 AP ratio on her atuoattacks on average, slightly stronger than Orianna's and with more burst to compensate for the range. It's good, but I wouldn't call it stupidly strong.

i'm not sure you can really compare it like that. her passive resets every 3 seconds and it's valuable as an aoe nuke. It synergizes pretty well with her E as it clumps them up nicely for you.

sylverfyre

United States8298 Posts

August 07 2012 14:07 GMT

#1425

On August 07 2012 20:39 Lmui wrote:
Just some numbers for level 6 Diana

In a combo assuming you get a passive proc, QWRER
Passive 65 (+.6)
Q 170(+.8)
W 60(+.6)
R 200(+1.2)

for 335 (+3.0)

Not particularly high in terms of base values but coupled with the fact that she attacks fast, can actually combo people really hard. She can also take wraiths about as easily as morgana can.

Catch is, she actually goes INTO the jungle to pick up the wraiths, morg and many others will just do it over the wall, which is way safer when stealing enemy wraiths.

Comparing that to Morgana @ 6 - R W Q (1 R, 3 W, 1 Q)
350 (+1.4)
220 (+0.8) from 4 ticks of W (1.5 sec stun, 2 sec bind, 0.5 "walking out of puddle")
80 (+ 0.9)
for 750 (+3.1)

You didn't account for actual auto damage Diana will do with the autos leading into passive, so you're ~200 base (physical) damage shy (her base damage isn't very high) but you still need at least another set of 3 autos to just bring yourself up to what morg does without the 1-2 grace autos in a combo. She combos well, but her power is in her mobility and positional power, not in her numbers. Get hit by her crescent strike thing, and you're at risk of being combo'd, though when she jumps to you, SHE IS ALL-IN. She can't jump to friendlies to get back out even if she has her no-CD R.

Celial

2602 Posts

August 07 2012 14:28 GMT

#1426

Her clear so fast... later stages all camps and even waves just pop from Q and 1-2 E orbs...

sylverfyre

United States8298 Posts

August 07 2012 14:37 GMT

#1427

Yeah, that's one of the things that makes me like her jungling. Especially since you can also pull a lee sin and hop over pretty much any wall to your jungle camps with Q [which provides vision] -> R [which has no cooldown because you used Q]

Requizen

United States33802 Posts

August 07 2012 14:56 GMT

#1428

Watching streams, Q harass on Diana seems pretty strong, and not too mana intensive. Good poke on a melee champion is something fun to see, also doubles as a zoning tool if you land it.

On a separate note, nearly every Riven I've seen lately has been jungle rather than top. I stopped jungling her because it's real snowball-y for her there (as she needs gold to get to super mode). Is there a new Riven jungle build that I haven't seen?

wei2coolman

United States60033 Posts

August 07 2012 15:05 GMT

#1429

As far as I know it's the still the whole boots + 2 dorans, wait infinite amount of years for BT, then GA.

Gahlo

United States35174 Posts

August 07 2012 15:06 GMT

#1430

On August 07 2012 22:53 AsnSensation wrote:
this is actually pretty informative concerning season 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9VRu5iJmNA&list=UUUXqbHbJPmjO6xSGc4WhL6w&index=2&feature=plpp_video

TLDW:

TSM, Curse, Clg.Na,. Dig moving to the LA area ( traivs moving there too) implies that the Riot Arena is going to be there.

Mayhaps it is the true nature of Supremecy?

sob3k

United States7572 Posts

August 07 2012 15:21 GMT

#1431

Oh my fucking god viktor freeweek makes me want to slit my wrists

i do not understand at all.

I play ARAM and we have Viktors going 2-12, 1-8.....If I get him its like 22-3 because he rocks ARAM...No wonder everyone thinks he's terrible.

All you have to do is lazer, thats fucking it, laaaazer.

wei2coolman

United States60033 Posts

August 07 2012 15:23 GMT

#1432

Damn, dat travis video makes season 3 look way more epic than i had initially thought. Not sure if I agree w/ the whole ipl and mlg turning into amateur tourneys (w/ like maybe 1-2 championship league teams) participating, but this will be interesting.

I like the idea of centralizing lol.

jcarlsoniv

United States27922 Posts

August 07 2012 15:24 GMT

#1433

On August 08 2012 00:21 sob3k wrote:
Oh my fucking god viktor freeweek makes me want to slit my wrists

i do not understand at all.

I play ARAM and we have Viktors going 2-12, 1-8.....If I get him its like 22-3 because he rocks ARAM...No wonder everyone thinks he's terrible.

All you have to do is lazer, thats fucking it, laaaazer.

Shhhh, let the bads be bad. I believe Jatt has been looking at Viktor (judging off his twitter), so I'm hoping he realizes he's actually in quite a good place instead of trying to change him. Solcrushed never contacted me in game D= my LoL GD thread presence not stronk enough.

Requizen

United States33802 Posts

August 07 2012 15:37 GMT

#1434

On August 08 2012 00:24 jcarlsoniv wrote:

Show nested quote +

Just get TL B to win some tourneys, you'll get like 70% of GD on your side.

Promises

Netherlands1821 Posts

August 07 2012 15:38 GMT

#1435

I still believe Viktor is pretty powerfull, and he doesn't get outright countered by too many champs (i guess a bit by LB/Kassa). As jcarl said, let the bad's be bad ^^

turdburgler

England6749 Posts

August 07 2012 15:38 GMT

#1436

aram

serious shit

Perplex

United States1693 Posts

August 07 2012 15:42 GMT

#1437

Is the zyra hotfix live? How bad are the nerfs?

BlackPaladin

United States9316 Posts

August 07 2012 15:44 GMT

#1438

On August 08 2012 00:38 turdburgler wrote:

Show nested quote +

aram

serious shit

The funniest part is when you play it and you actually meet someone who is super fucking tryhard in it and you're like "you.....TRY in aram?" lol

They get soooo mad and start cursing you off and calling you stuff like a waste of life cause you only play a non-tryhard game to have fun. And that "losing isn't fun." I beg to differ. Most entertaining stuff ever. l0l