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Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
August 04 2012 05:43 GMT
#701
Supports should just steal half the farm that ad carries cant get, cus they are bad and suck at last hitting.
hi
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
August 04 2012 05:45 GMT
#702
On August 04 2012 14:38 HazMat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2012 14:27 cLutZ wrote:
Alistar nerf. Classic riot. Any support champ that isn't terrible = nerfed.

All of your posts are troll bait.

doesnt even seem like a big nerf anyway(since it does buff his damage once headbutt is maxed)
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
August 04 2012 05:59 GMT
#703
On August 04 2012 14:38 HazMat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2012 14:27 cLutZ wrote:
Alistar nerf. Classic riot. Any support champ that isn't terrible = nerfed.

All of your posts are troll bait.



Alistar is a great support. But he is only an OP support because of a series of other support nerfs to champs like Taric, Soraka, Janna, and Lulu.

What was the last viable support champ that was buffed (ala the last Rumble change)? Nunu had to basically disappear before he was buffed.

If you don't thing supports are UP you didn't watch the TSM vs. Blaze matchup. The best player, by a significant margin, was Xspecial. TSM lost 3-0.
Freeeeeeedom
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
August 04 2012 06:04 GMT
#704
On August 04 2012 14:20 Craton wrote:
Uh, well I guess it's something, but you don't exactly level W as jungle ali anyway. It hurts support Ali a lot more.


It hurts more if you aren't leveling it
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Perplex
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1693 Posts
August 04 2012 06:06 GMT
#705
On August 04 2012 14:38 Feartheguru wrote:
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On August 04 2012 13:42 Perplex wrote:
On August 04 2012 12:07 XenOmega wrote:
I play with some friends who are around 17-19xx ELO. Most praise my support play + anivia mid.

I really don't know where I'm supposed to be. Maybe 1200 is where I belong, maybe not. Feels like I have bad luck with matchmaking, dunno


If you've played over ~60 ranked games (without taking a big break and practicing in between) you're where you belong ELO wise.


60 is too little, I spent 120 games 400 elo below my next 200. 1200 is more terror than you might think. Atleast 50% are predecided (If you're not actually a plat player) and the rest even if you have a 60% win rate it could takes a few hundred games with those odds.

Also something I was wondering. There are TONNES of support mains in 1500s and very few below 1200.

Is it so hard to get out of low elo as support that people stop doing it or is it so easy that they've all made it out?


Trust me, I know how terror the 1200's are, I played like 200 games between 1100 and 1300. At the time I was angry and thought I deserved to be higher, but looking back I definitely deserved to be there.

I buckled down and practiced in normals for weeks with friends. Came back to ranked and got 1500 within a month. Fast forward another month and i'm 1700. I'm no where near plat skill wise, but i've since carried 4 accounts out of "elo hell" just to prove to my friends that it doesn't exist
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TheLink
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia2725 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-04 06:10:37
August 04 2012 06:08 GMT
#706
Lol, what a joke, nerf support alistar and leave jungle ali unchanged. At no point was support alistar OP, just everyone assumes so since he's permaban now for his jungling.

But no, gotta keep those support nerfs coming. You can't kill the goddamn role Riot despite how much you want to eliminate the "boring" role, it exists because you only have 4 (3 and a half) sources of income in this game. Support is just going to keep getting weaker but never disappear.

PS: Obvious jungle ali nerf is up the mana cost on his pulv, if he clears too fast he can't gank without philo's + mana regen runes. Also means he has to complete philo's before mobility/oracles. Instead you go for headbutt damage at low level. >_<
Only the weak link is strong enough to break the chain.
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
August 04 2012 06:10 GMT
#707
The w nerf hurts jungle ali more. You don't level w and it does less damage at lower levels. Support ali generally maxes w I thought because it added more burst/level? Now it does slightly more at max level. o.o;
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17281 Posts
August 04 2012 06:12 GMT
#708
Alistar actually is usually the best support for going against kill lanes like Blitz/Leona but with permaban from jungler you see them a lot more rampant now.
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Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
August 04 2012 06:15 GMT
#709
Yeah because Support was always weak and Alistar was the last playable support now you'll just be better off going back to playing panth/jarv bottom.

Except for the part where we revolved around the Protect the ad carry two/3 supports plans. Then the Soraka who can pretty much turn any lane into "good luck trying to kill us past 4" or the Janna "Don't bother ganking unless I am asleep in lane" not to mention that the nerfing of Soraka/Janna/Sona allowed for people to actually play things like Nunu,Leona, Naut bot lanes without being crapped on due to the over sustain in one form or another. Oh and hey Soraka/janna/Sona still really strong. *boggle*

No idea what to think about potential PBE alistar changes, except you know it's all potential changes so not even Riot really knows what will be released or not.
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-04 06:28:11
August 04 2012 06:26 GMT
#710
lol all you people overreacting about a 30 damage nerf to alistar's W at level 1. You didn't take support Ali for his damage anyways. You took him for his retarded cc, minor sustain, and extreme tankability w/out any items. Support ali maxed w/e the fuck he wanted. E for more sustain, Q for less cd on knockback, W for a little more damage.

This is a nerf to jungle/roaming Ali more than anything.
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
August 04 2012 06:36 GMT
#711
Yeah... Ali will still be banned 100%. People forgot his support is godlike, even though it doesn't matter since his jungle will still be insane.
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-04 07:18:57
August 04 2012 06:41 GMT
#712
Man watching wingsofdeath play lee sin is so beautifully hilarious.

Wings is so fucking hilarious. I wish he'd stream more~ hopefully he gets his stream all set up soon.
liftlift > tsm
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
August 04 2012 07:00 GMT
#713
On August 04 2012 14:43 Sponkz wrote:
Supports should just steal half the farm that ad carries cant get, cus they are bad and suck at last hitting.

That makes no sense at all.
Supports should try to get ALL the farm that AD carries can't get. And how is it "stealing" when the AD never had a chance to get it, and therefore never owned it?
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
August 04 2012 07:24 GMT
#714
On August 04 2012 14:43 Sponkz wrote:
Supports should just steal half the farm that ad carries cant get, cus they are bad and suck at last hitting.

Supports should just go mid, since mid players are bad and suck at last hitting too.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
August 04 2012 07:29 GMT
#715
On August 04 2012 16:24 JackDino wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2012 14:43 Sponkz wrote:
Supports should just steal half the farm that ad carries cant get, cus they are bad and suck at last hitting.

Supports should just go mid, since mid players are bad and suck at last hitting too.


According to my tribunal cases this is not uncommon.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
August 04 2012 07:30 GMT
#716
Also, I just found out that you can attack while going into stealth with twitch and it won't cancel anything. Huge buff to my twitch since I'm retarded and didn't realize it works that way.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-04 07:44:43
August 04 2012 07:35 GMT
#717
On August 04 2012 16:00 spinesheath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2012 14:43 Sponkz wrote:
Supports should just steal half the farm that ad carries cant get, cus they are bad and suck at last hitting.

That makes no sense at all.
Supports should try to get ALL the farm that AD carries can't get. And how is it "stealing" when the AD never had a chance to get it, and therefore never owned it?



*Insert* steal too, but you never say steal in front of them cus that's racism.


EDIT: Sorry to the dude below me. Wasn't meant to be offending!


Every support should finish the game with 50+ CS or you're doing something terribly wrong tbh.

User was temp banned for this post.
hi
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-04 07:56:55
August 04 2012 07:42 GMT
#718
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God Bless
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
August 04 2012 07:58 GMT
#719
Roffles is just mad cause my battleraka took all his cs. Don't worry though, i gave him mana in return. Best support.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
August 04 2012 08:00 GMT
#720
I asked this once before but I might as well try again....
When I move my mouse to the left while watching LoLreplays my mouse just goes to my second monitor. I'm new to having 2 monitors so is there a way for me to lock LoLreplay to one screen or something. I've tried alt tabbing.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
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