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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
August 12 2012 16:33 GMT
#2921
Energy champs are annoying in lane, but mana champs are infinetly more useful in a longer fight, just because energy runs out pretty fast.

Now, champs without mana OR energy to manage them, they are just bullshit.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
August 12 2012 16:53 GMT
#2922
What about champions with mana costs so low that they basically don't have mana except fringe cases where Darius is trying to pick up a pentakill with his ult?
Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
August 12 2012 17:00 GMT
#2923
Have to wonder how much more popular Gragas can get when Ahri is such a common pick. Would be nice if it provoked some more Swain picks and more Cassie. Feel like she has kind of died down in popularity.
"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
August 12 2012 17:24 GMT
#2924
On August 13 2012 02:00 Cloud9157 wrote:
Have to wonder how much more popular Gragas can get when Ahri is such a common pick. Would be nice if it provoked some more Swain picks and more Cassie. Feel like she has kind of died down in popularity.


And lets not bring that popularity back!
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
August 12 2012 17:42 GMT
#2925
On August 13 2012 01:53 sylverfyre wrote:
What about champions with mana costs so low that they basically don't have mana except fringe cases where Darius is trying to pick up a pentakill with his ult?

Yeah this is definitely a strength of the newer champs. As Zilean, I found during the free week, that I'd use my bombs to kill the creep wave, use bombs to bomb a bot or enemy champ, and then not have any mana left to do anything. 130 mana + 130 mana + 50 mana too costly. Who cares if the lane is pushed? I can't roam if I have no mana to roam TT
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-12 17:48:27
August 12 2012 17:47 GMT
#2926
If we are still on the win %s,
Top 3:
1.Taric - 65.3% (81-43)
2.Kayle - 59.3% (35-24)
3.Gragas - 57.6% (72-53)
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
August 12 2012 17:50 GMT
#2927
On August 13 2012 02:24 BlackPaladin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2012 02:00 Cloud9157 wrote:
Have to wonder how much more popular Gragas can get when Ahri is such a common pick. Would be nice if it provoked some more Swain picks and more Cassie. Feel like she has kind of died down in popularity.


And lets not bring that popularity back!


I think Ahri is currently the best viable counterpick against Zyra right now... =\
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
August 12 2012 18:22 GMT
#2928
On August 13 2012 02:50 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2012 02:24 BlackPaladin wrote:
On August 13 2012 02:00 Cloud9157 wrote:
Have to wonder how much more popular Gragas can get when Ahri is such a common pick. Would be nice if it provoked some more Swain picks and more Cassie. Feel like she has kind of died down in popularity.


And lets not bring that popularity back!


I think Ahri is currently the best viable counterpick against Zyra right now... =\

Brand is best, annie 2nd pick. Lumberjack Sion also pretty good.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
August 12 2012 18:25 GMT
#2929
Foxfire Ahri.

Your move.
twitch.tv/cratonz
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
August 12 2012 18:34 GMT
#2930
I don't believe she has a move that lets you slap people with her tail.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
August 12 2012 18:40 GMT
#2931
1- Olaf, 19-17, 52.8%
2- Jax, 18-15, 54.5%
3- Mundo, 18-12, 60%
4- Alistar, 9-18, 33.3% (how to get incredibly frustrated playing support, with around ~75% bot lanes won)
5- Sona, 12-10, 54.5% (was like 12-6 before the nerfs T_T)
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Perplex
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1693 Posts
August 12 2012 19:23 GMT
#2932
On August 13 2012 03:40 Alaric wrote:
1- Olaf, 19-17, 52.8%
2- Jax, 18-15, 54.5%
3- Mundo, 18-12, 60%
4- Alistar, 9-18, 33.3% (how to get incredibly frustrated playing support, with around ~75% bot lanes won)
5- Sona, 12-10, 54.5% (was like 12-6 before the nerfs T_T)


why are we doing this? lol

the only one of mine tthat matters: Hecarim, 27-7, 79.4% KDA - 8/2/10
http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/24238059
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
August 12 2012 19:31 GMT
#2933
while we're on the topic of win rates, i decided to cut out the middleman and measure. Casually six inches. Your move, LP.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Celial
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
2602 Posts
August 12 2012 19:55 GMT
#2934
Ezreal. Whats the advantage - in solo queue - of building Boots2, Doran, Scepter, Triforce instead of Boots2, Doran, Doran, Scepter, Infinity Edge? I understeand the MS, Sheen proc, HP, Mana etc make him a superb duelist. However, I feel extremely weak in lane... I played two games of Ezreal today with the TF build, and three games with MF with the Doran Doran IE build. I felt so much stronger throwing some auto attacks. Both are supposed to be bullying their lanes like mad, but somehow I felt much stronger without TF.
Do not regret. Always forward, never back.
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
August 12 2012 19:58 GMT
#2935
Triforce lets you poke better, lets you chase better, lets you clean up better, even lets you escape slightly better.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
August 12 2012 19:58 GMT
#2936
Triforce first is better for sitting back and poking w/ Q, but that's about it. You normally see people go IE into Triforce instead. You get the best of both worlds and have aspd from your passive to make up for Triforce vs PD aspd. IE crits + Triforce proc bonus damage gets pretty high.

I really hate first item Triforce on any AD.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-12 20:00:48
August 12 2012 19:59 GMT
#2937
It's similar to the Trinity/IE thing on Corki. Trinity lets you have more up-front burst. The Phage procs let you chase people down. The extra mobility is also nice for kiting. However, for overall dps IE lets you just right-click people down. It really depends on what you want to be doing and what suits your team best.

Although I guess if you back with say 1450 gold, just under a BF and not quite enough for 2xDoran+Boots2, and want an item to just win lane harder going Phage is ok and will probably set the tone for your build.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
Celial
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
2602 Posts
August 12 2012 20:07 GMT
#2938
Thanks =)

I was playing with my friend (Sona) and he kept whining that I just don't do any damage in the Ezreal games. He would poke them down to 50%, and when we tried to kill them after baiting them to our side of the river, I just wasn't able to do anything with my 110 damage (Phage). So we zoned them and I kept on farming =/ But when the enemy AD would be able to land hits on me, that would seriously hurt.
Do not regret. Always forward, never back.
dae
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada1600 Posts
August 12 2012 20:12 GMT
#2939
On August 13 2012 04:58 Craton wrote:
Triforce first is better for sitting back and poking w/ Q, but that's about it. You normally see people go IE into Triforce instead. You get the best of both worlds and have aspd from your passive to make up for Triforce vs PD aspd. IE crits + Triforce proc bonus damage gets pretty high.

I really hate first item Triforce on any AD.


Trinity first on Corki is pretty damn good when other people on your team have damage, and they have no real super tanky people. It is just so nice for chasing, poking, kiting, and just living longer in fights.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
August 12 2012 20:19 GMT
#2940
On August 13 2012 05:12 dae wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2012 04:58 Craton wrote:
Triforce first is better for sitting back and poking w/ Q, but that's about it. You normally see people go IE into Triforce instead. You get the best of both worlds and have aspd from your passive to make up for Triforce vs PD aspd. IE crits + Triforce proc bonus damage gets pretty high.

I really hate first item Triforce on any AD.


Trinity first on Corki is pretty damn good when other people on your team have damage, and they have no real super tanky people. It is just so nice for chasing, poking, kiting, and just living longer in fights.


TF first has been standard on Corki/Ez in IPL SF Showdown this weekend.

For what its worth.
Freeeeeeedom
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