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IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
August 13 2012 01:51 GMT
#2961
On August 13 2012 10:49 Bwaaaa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2012 10:45 IMoperator wrote:
Ok what is the combo for fizz? Is it E-Q-R and then W him down if he lives? Or do you Q him first?

I thought it was R-Activate W-Q-E.

Okok. I haven't played fizz yet but I bought him today and I need to know the burst combo lol.
NotAPro
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada146 Posts
August 13 2012 01:52 GMT
#2962
Do all players at 1200 think if they call something as LP they are entitled to play it and will rage if you take it? Everything was "called" but support and so I picked mid because fuck support so the LP trolls...
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-13 01:56:10
August 13 2012 01:54 GMT
#2963
On August 13 2012 10:45 IMoperator wrote:
Ok what is the combo for fizz? Is it E-Q-R and then W him down if he lives? Or do you Q him first?


There's not one set combo. If you just wanna dump all your skills for maximum damage and they don't have flash it's R W Q E. Q applies W so you don't need to auto before E. You want to use your spells in a way appropriate to the situation, there's lots of ways of attacking someone with him.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Bladeorade
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1898 Posts
August 13 2012 02:18 GMT
#2964
Tried out two dorans sorcs guise abyssal on ahri. Stronk. Gonna be trying that on more close range casters
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
August 13 2012 02:23 GMT
#2965
On Fizz, sometimes it helps to Q in before you fish them. Your R projectile is kinda slow and hard to hit so using Q first can help.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
August 13 2012 02:47 GMT
#2966
On August 13 2012 09:09 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2012 08:29 kainzero wrote:
ya'll talking about win loss rates


Vayne
W7 L19 26.9%
Kills: 3.8/game
Deaths: 5.3/game
Assists: 5.5/game
CS: 156.6/game

i swear i'm cursed when i play vayne


I don't play Vayne ranked, but she is my fav champ, except I also seem to suck with her.

Maybe I should try convincing teams to do a laneswap when I play vayne so I can get to BT safely...


I guess you probably lose early-ish in most games as Vayne to an adc with stronger early/mid game?
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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
August 13 2012 03:07 GMT
#2967
On August 13 2012 11:47 ticklishmusic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2012 09:09 cLutZ wrote:
On August 13 2012 08:29 kainzero wrote:
ya'll talking about win loss rates


Vayne
W7 L19 26.9%
Kills: 3.8/game
Deaths: 5.3/game
Assists: 5.5/game
CS: 156.6/game

i swear i'm cursed when i play vayne


I don't play Vayne ranked, but she is my fav champ, except I also seem to suck with her.

Maybe I should try convincing teams to do a laneswap when I play vayne so I can get to BT safely...


I guess you probably lose early-ish in most games as Vayne to an adc with stronger early/mid game?


Yep. Graves/Corki dump on my Vayne.
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sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
August 13 2012 04:11 GMT
#2968
On August 13 2012 09:20 101toss wrote:
^I knew shyvana was op from day 1

Dat bitch outdps's me through fiddle drain

Edit: I just realized sunfire cape actually synergizes with fiddlesticks

So for 2600 gold you make your ult 40 dps better + are tankier

If you instead got a zhonyas, your ult would be... about the same amount DPS better (45) you get about the same armor. You go invulnerable and avoid at least 500 damage when you're ulted in the middle of an enemy team, negating the giant's belt. Yeah, not convinced sunfire cape isn't just retarded on fiddlesticks :/
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
August 13 2012 04:39 GMT
#2969
On August 13 2012 10:52 NotAPro wrote:
Do all players at 1200 think if they call something as LP they are entitled to play it and will rage if you take it? Everything was "called" but support and so I picked mid because fuck support so the LP trolls...

Yeah, that tends to be how it goes 90% of the time. Acting like it's shotgun and shit...
Takkara
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2503 Posts
August 13 2012 04:43 GMT
#2970
On August 13 2012 10:52 NotAPro wrote:
Do all players at 1200 think if they call something as LP they are entitled to play it and will rage if you take it? Everything was "called" but support and so I picked mid because fuck support so the LP trolls...


In solo queue, if someone calls something and you don't let them play it, there's a good chance they're going to troll. Doesn't matter what the pick order is. You have the right to pick what you want, but it is at your own risk.
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barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
August 13 2012 04:47 GMT
#2971
On August 13 2012 13:11 sylverfyre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2012 09:20 101toss wrote:
^I knew shyvana was op from day 1

Dat bitch outdps's me through fiddle drain

Edit: I just realized sunfire cape actually synergizes with fiddlesticks

So for 2600 gold you make your ult 40 dps better + are tankier

If you instead got a zhonyas, your ult would be... about the same amount DPS better (45) you get about the same armor. You go invulnerable and avoid at least 500 damage when you're ulted in the middle of an enemy team, negating the giant's belt. Yeah, not convinced sunfire cape isn't just retarded on fiddlesticks :/

i think he was just pointing out how fiddle passive amps sunfire dmg a little bit, kinda like amumu
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Cloud
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sexico5880 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-13 04:51:20
August 13 2012 04:50 GMT
#2972
On August 13 2012 13:43 Takkara wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2012 10:52 NotAPro wrote:
Do all players at 1200 think if they call something as LP they are entitled to play it and will rage if you take it? Everything was "called" but support and so I picked mid because fuck support so the LP trolls...


In solo queue, if someone calls something and you don't let them play it, there's a good chance they're going to troll. Doesn't matter what the pick order is. You have the right to pick what you want, but it is at your own risk.

It helps being polite and settling the issue before you have to pick. If someone calls a position and you take it without saying anything you're just being a dick.
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Mondeezy
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1938 Posts
August 13 2012 04:52 GMT
#2973
On August 13 2012 10:52 NotAPro wrote:
Do all players at 1200 think if they call something as LP they are entitled to play it and will rage if you take it? Everything was "called" but support and so I picked mid because fuck support so the LP trolls...


Yep. For some reason they can't grasp the simple concept that when there is a pick order, you know, you usually pick in that order. Its one thing to call your preferred roles, its another to troll a game and rage because you were last pick and someone took what you wanted.
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kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
August 13 2012 05:21 GMT
#2974
On August 13 2012 11:47 ticklishmusic wrote:
I guess you probably lose early-ish in most games as Vayne to an adc with stronger early/mid game?

for me my losses are probably 60% me sucking, 40% afk/lanes losing/support not playing support

i think a lot of supports don't realize how squishy vayne is, so even if they have a good engage she'll still die unless the support plays it perfectly
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
August 13 2012 05:32 GMT
#2975
On August 13 2012 10:52 NotAPro wrote:
Do all players at 1200 think if they call something as LP they are entitled to play it and will rage if you take it? Everything was "called" but support and so I picked mid because fuck support so the LP trolls...

What does 1200 have to do with anything? Welcome to solo queue at any Elo.
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red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
August 13 2012 05:39 GMT
#2976
On August 13 2012 13:43 Takkara wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2012 10:52 NotAPro wrote:
Do all players at 1200 think if they call something as LP they are entitled to play it and will rage if you take it? Everything was "called" but support and so I picked mid because fuck support so the LP trolls...


In solo queue, if someone calls something and you don't let them play it, there's a good chance they're going to troll. Doesn't matter what the pick order is. You have the right to pick what you want, but it is at your own risk.


Bolded that last bit because I'm fairly sure Riot has set a precedent in the past of punishing people for 'purposely griefing' by picking a champion/role that a person who picks after them has explicitly 'called' in chat. I know it's a discussion we've had before(long time ago though).
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Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-13 05:45:06
August 13 2012 05:44 GMT
#2977
On August 13 2012 14:39 red_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2012 13:43 Takkara wrote:
On August 13 2012 10:52 NotAPro wrote:
Do all players at 1200 think if they call something as LP they are entitled to play it and will rage if you take it? Everything was "called" but support and so I picked mid because fuck support so the LP trolls...


In solo queue, if someone calls something and you don't let them play it, there's a good chance they're going to troll. Doesn't matter what the pick order is. You have the right to pick what you want, but it is at your own risk.


Bolded that last bit because I'm fairly sure Riot has set a precedent in the past of punishing people for 'purposely griefing' by picking a champion/role that a person who picks after them has explicitly 'called' in chat. I know it's a discussion we've had before(long time ago though).


Thats kind of Bullshit. If they decided that its a horrible position. So people should just let people who call out roles hold the rest of the team hostage? Sorry no don't play ranked if you "don't know how to support". Or of course the always fun "I pick X or feed". Riot should be going after those people.
Never Knows Best.
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-13 05:52:19
August 13 2012 05:49 GMT
#2978
On August 13 2012 13:50 Cloud wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2012 13:43 Takkara wrote:
On August 13 2012 10:52 NotAPro wrote:
Do all players at 1200 think if they call something as LP they are entitled to play it and will rage if you take it? Everything was "called" but support and so I picked mid because fuck support so the LP trolls...


In solo queue, if someone calls something and you don't let them play it, there's a good chance they're going to troll. Doesn't matter what the pick order is. You have the right to pick what you want, but it is at your own risk.

It helps being polite and settling the issue before you have to pick. If someone calls a position and you take it without saying anything you're just being a dick.

Not everyone can actually read or call out something fast enough if they're busy banning. If you're calling something out it doesn't mean you get to have it or should have it. It's just nice to let your team know, but if they want it too, that's too bad.
On August 13 2012 14:39 red_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2012 13:43 Takkara wrote:
On August 13 2012 10:52 NotAPro wrote:
Do all players at 1200 think if they call something as LP they are entitled to play it and will rage if you take it? Everything was "called" but support and so I picked mid because fuck support so the LP trolls...


In solo queue, if someone calls something and you don't let them play it, there's a good chance they're going to troll. Doesn't matter what the pick order is. You have the right to pick what you want, but it is at your own risk.


Bolded that last bit because I'm fairly sure Riot has set a precedent in the past of punishing people for 'purposely griefing' by picking a champion/role that a person who picks after them has explicitly 'called' in chat. I know it's a discussion we've had before(long time ago though).

You mean when saint called jungle but someone before him picked it anyways? Riot doesn't ban you for being a higher pick, they ban you for trolling. Which is the guy who called out something that gets taken before him but him taking it anyways, not the other way around.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-13 06:05:35
August 13 2012 06:00 GMT
#2979
Riot's stance was if you need a certain role (say jungle) and then last pick purposely picks a second AD carry, if others aren't okay with it then that's bannable for trolling. Also picking something like eve top when everyone else on your team disagrees, you should have the courtesy of changing to a more acceptable pick. A lot of riot's rules though are "you should consider" and "it would be preferrable" etcetc. Very little is written in stone. If you pick a second AD instead of support and carry the game, aren't bm at all ot the like, then alls well.

They also prefer better manners like "i only really know mid well, would i be allowed mid?" over "mid or afk." Afaik if you "call" mid but someone else picks it, you should play another role since mid is taken. You should learn other roles anyway in riot's opinion. But then if you pick a second mid, go mid anyway, and the entire team disagrees with it, that's just trolling thus bannable.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
August 13 2012 06:10 GMT
#2980
Is it really that hard to understand that doing something to spite and hinder your team constitutes trolling?
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