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dae
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada1600 Posts
August 12 2012 07:28 GMT
#2881
Also, riot really needs to fix people duo queing with friends that are absurdly out of their elo range in ranked.

Pic in Spoiler - Gragas was 800 elo.
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[image loading]


It's stupid that you are allowed to pretty much cause your team to lose from the start due to it pretty much being a 4v6.

Just a waste of everyone's time.
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
August 12 2012 07:37 GMT
#2882
I posted the same thing like 2 days ago but very few people agreed with me :/
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-12 07:40:55
August 12 2012 07:39 GMT
#2883
On August 12 2012 16:28 dae wrote:
Also, riot really needs to fix people duo queing with friends that are absurdly out of their elo range in ranked.

Pic in Spoiler - Gragas was 800 elo.
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[image loading]


It's stupid that you are allowed to pretty much cause your team to lose from the start due to it pretty much being a 4v6.

Just a waste of everyone's time.


I'd agree with this. Having laned vs 2k+'s on LP, as a ~1600, I mostly don't get destroyed in lane in comfortable roles/champs, although I will lose it slowly but surely. That's something you can recover from with a few well timed jungler ganks or teamfights. I'm quite close to the point where I will lose lane hard though. Limit should be somewhere around +-3-400, with everything sub 1200 counted as 1200. This will let everybody up to 15-1600(which is actually pretty high relatively speaking) duo with whoever they want, and for the rest there's normals.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
wussleeQ
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States3130 Posts
August 12 2012 07:40 GMT
#2884
Speaking of amumu, I've been using mog's nunu build with him with some interesting results. will report back once i get more games in
BW -> League -> CSGO
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
August 12 2012 08:10 GMT
#2885
It's funny how everyone has a high win ratio on the supports haha
Here is my list:
Udyr:64%
Soraka:62%
Maokai:55%
Ziggs:55%
75% win rate on Alistar and Malphite but sub 20 games played.

I have a lot of games on udyr tho,carried myself out of low elo just by going wolves->hard leash on blue->enemy red->gank top or bot for fb->enemy team starts arguing,gg.
To get a hard leash in low elo you just need to tell people you are a 2k smurf and explain step by step what they need to do,works 8/10 times and more often as you climb elo.

Cackle™
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
August 12 2012 08:37 GMT
#2886
On August 12 2012 17:10 TheKefka wrote:
It's funny how everyone has a high win ratio on the supports haha
Here is my list:
Udyr:64%
Soraka:62%
Maokai:55%
Ziggs:55%
75% win rate on Alistar and Malphite but sub 20 games played.

I have a lot of games on udyr tho,carried myself out of low elo just by going wolves->hard leash on blue->enemy red->gank top or bot for fb->enemy team starts arguing,gg.
To get a hard leash in low elo you just need to tell people you are a 2k smurf and explain step by step what they need to do,works 8/10 times and more often as you climb elo.


whenever someone tells me they're a smurf they're almost always laughably bad.
StateAlchemist
Profile Joined January 2011
France1946 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-12 08:44:57
August 12 2012 08:44 GMT
#2887
On August 12 2012 17:37 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2012 17:10 TheKefka wrote:
It's funny how everyone has a high win ratio on the supports haha
Here is my list:
Udyr:64%
Soraka:62%
Maokai:55%
Ziggs:55%
75% win rate on Alistar and Malphite but sub 20 games played.

I have a lot of games on udyr tho,carried myself out of low elo just by going wolves->hard leash on blue->enemy red->gank top or bot for fb->enemy team starts arguing,gg.
To get a hard leash in low elo you just need to tell people you are a 2k smurf and explain step by step what they need to do,works 8/10 times and more often as you climb elo.


whenever someone tells me they're a smurf they're almost always laughably bad.


I have the same experience with "smurfs" lol
Or you have these guys linking their lolking profile to show you how sick of an AP mid they are and you better let them play what they want if you want to get carried. And they're terrible 90% of the time :/
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-12 09:28:02
August 12 2012 09:27 GMT
#2888
On August 12 2012 16:37 HazMat wrote:
I posted the same thing like 2 days ago but very few people agreed with me :/

Ez and gragas just wanted to have some fun man, atleast ez tried to improve and learn while playing that game.
I know a guy who actually got his elo boosted by some high lvl players and he only duos ranked, whenever he doesn't duo he loses 8 out of 10 times.
On August 12 2012 17:37 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2012 17:10 TheKefka wrote:
It's funny how everyone has a high win ratio on the supports haha
Here is my list:
Udyr:64%
Soraka:62%
Maokai:55%
Ziggs:55%
75% win rate on Alistar and Malphite but sub 20 games played.

I have a lot of games on udyr tho,carried myself out of low elo just by going wolves->hard leash on blue->enemy red->gank top or bot for fb->enemy team starts arguing,gg.
To get a hard leash in low elo you just need to tell people you are a 2k smurf and explain step by step what they need to do,works 8/10 times and more often as you climb elo.


whenever someone tells me they're a smurf they're almost always laughably bad.

They're not only laughably bad, they're really really cocky and usually lose the game for you with their attitude.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
August 12 2012 09:35 GMT
#2889
Any LB players here? If so how fun is she?
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-12 09:49:35
August 12 2012 09:47 GMT
#2890
On August 12 2012 13:34 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2012 13:07 UniversalSnip wrote:
something ive noticed is that if one team is way behind on kills and the they're both about even on gold the team that is behind in kills almost always wins because they're ahead on some other metrics that matter more, for example xp, map control, ability to cs, something like that.

i think the team ahead in kills, since neither can see gold obviously, has the benefit of the team being down on kills arguing amongst each other about someone feeding imo


I've noticed it in both tournament and solo queue, I think it's correlating to an actual game effect, like the team very behind in kills but even on gold is substantially stronger in some combination of non-psychological ways. I don't know what it is exactly, experience, map control, something else, but I keep noticing it.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6223 Posts
August 12 2012 10:07 GMT
#2891
On August 12 2012 18:47 UniversalSnip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2012 13:34 arb wrote:
On August 12 2012 13:07 UniversalSnip wrote:
something ive noticed is that if one team is way behind on kills and the they're both about even on gold the team that is behind in kills almost always wins because they're ahead on some other metrics that matter more, for example xp, map control, ability to cs, something like that.

i think the team ahead in kills, since neither can see gold obviously, has the benefit of the team being down on kills arguing amongst each other about someone feeding imo


I've noticed it in both tournament and solo queue, I think it's correlating to an actual game effect, like the team very behind in kills but even on gold is substantially stronger in some combination of non-psychological ways. I don't know what it is exactly, experience, map control, something else, but I keep noticing it.


I'd put it up to the fact that kills is what makes people feel "ahead", they take risks that the people who are "behind" aren't willing to take and sometimes get punished for it, examples would be tanks diving too deep, more haphazard focus etc.
Wetty
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia419 Posts
August 12 2012 10:37 GMT
#2892
On August 12 2012 18:35 IMoperator wrote:
Any LB players here? If so how fun is she?


I enjoy her a lot. You can be quite devious playing her, and create some pretty advantageous situations by picking people off before fights even start. Doing well in the early/mid game can lead to people just chasing you recklessly whilst your team cleans up, or you can just always blow up the enemy AD if they're out of position.

Her burst is great fun and with a bit of practice makes for a really interesting champion with a fairly different feel to other AP mid
IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
August 12 2012 10:41 GMT
#2893
On August 12 2012 19:37 Wetty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2012 18:35 IMoperator wrote:
Any LB players here? If so how fun is she?


I enjoy her a lot. You can be quite devious playing her, and create some pretty advantageous situations by picking people off before fights even start. Doing well in the early/mid game can lead to people just chasing you recklessly whilst your team cleans up, or you can just always blow up the enemy AD if they're out of position.

Her burst is great fun and with a bit of practice makes for a really interesting champion with a fairly different feel to other AP mid

Hm, I played her a long long time ago when I was brand new to the game and I did terrible, I was thinking about picking her up because she looks fun.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
August 12 2012 11:30 GMT
#2894
Just tried a 1v1 with a friend, Gragas vs Kennen mid. I struggled until I could oneshot the caster minions with my Q, and then I could easily outpush her but a 100-0 was out of question and using E for damage other than the kill too. Just curious to know how each of us did, how would the match-up be supposed to go?
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-12 11:40:53
August 12 2012 11:38 GMT
#2895
On August 12 2012 20:30 Alaric wrote:
Just tried a 1v1 with a friend, Gragas vs Kennen mid. I struggled until I could oneshot the caster minions with my Q, and then I could easily outpush her but a 100-0 was out of question and using E for damage other than the kill too. Just curious to know how each of us did, how would the match-up be supposed to go?


Kennen's a jerk who doesn't really lose lanes without jungle intervention or misplaying. I'd think though there are timings at level 6+ and then when you get a NLR where if you can harass a bit, moment kennen uses up his E, you REQ+ignite for a kill. In general though, without a jungler this matchup will favor kennen early(strong harass), but slowly shift to gragas as his clear power and burst increases.

Kennen does have trouble against people who can instaclear or nearly so because he needs to use his escape to clear waves and blow most of his energy too.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
EquilasH
Profile Joined April 2009
Denmark2142 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-12 11:47:52
August 12 2012 11:47 GMT
#2896
On August 12 2012 07:54 Bladeorade wrote:
I am wondering what peoples highest win% and with what champs that is? With > 20 games played your top 5

Mine are:
Malphite 68.2%
Ahri 66.7%
Kayle 65.7%
Shyvana 65.6%
Lux 63.4%


Honorable Mention to Taric with 76.5% but only 17 games played (13-4)

I think I am going to start playing these champs again I kind of stopped playing every single one of these champs'

aside from Taric



My top 5 most played (only champs that I have >20 games with) are:

Riven 80.5% (70-17)
Kassadin 68.3% (28-13)
Akali 63.0% (17-10)
Poppy 74.1% (20-7)
Kennen 76.9% (20-6) - not sure if this one should count since I don't really know how to play Kennen, but I played a lot of AD Kennen in 3's.

wat
Hakanfrog
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden690 Posts
August 12 2012 12:15 GMT
#2897
She´s one of my favorite champs, I never dare to play her in ranked though.

I dodge every game where someone tells me they are a smurf, from my experience they are always fucking terrible.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22550 Posts
August 12 2012 12:28 GMT
#2898
Hmm i need to improve my win rates i think :p

Poppy 70.0% (14-6)
Varus 65.1% (28-15)
MF 62.5% (25-15)
Xin 59.5% (22-15)
Nunu 55.9% (19-15)

I see a pattern here Oo
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Deleted User 101379
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
4849 Posts
August 12 2012 13:15 GMT
#2899
I'm bad:
Ashe 66.7% 12/6
Olaf 52.9% 18/16
Soraka 48.1% 13/14
Graves 35.7% 10/18

I should rather write the other stats:
Karthus 100%
Blitzcrank 100%
Jayce 100%
... well, 1 game on each
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-12 13:48:01
August 12 2012 13:47 GMT
#2900
Top 5 in ranked

Sona: 60% 27/18
Nocturne: 52,9% 18/16
Janna: 57,6% 19/14
Rammus: 70% 21/9
Yorick: 63,3% 19/11


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