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AngryFarmer
United States560 Posts
On July 26 2012 14:41 Sufficiency wrote: Pretty sure he was playing AP Janna in a protect-the-kog comp? Kind of but he was pretty much two shoting TF and everyone else. I guess it was for kog but he ended up doing so much more damage | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On July 26 2012 15:16 AngryFarmer wrote: Kind of but he was pretty much two shoting TF and everyone else. I guess it was for kog but he ended up doing so much more damage That's because Janna has two damaging spells and they both have really good ratio (0.7 and 0.8). However, her Q's base damage is really low unless you get a full charge (like if that will hit anyone). The real catch is to have 40% CDR. Janna's shield has 10 seconds cooldown (6 seconds after full CDR), lasts 5 seconds, and has 0.8 ap ratio. It's impossible to kill the Kog'Maw with this kind of shield spamming unless the other team fully commits; in this case Janna can use her ultimate (600 base + 1.4 ap ratio heal on full cast). EDIT: I think if the mid lane keeps devolving into this farm feast AP Janna will see more actions. Her ratios are really good for a support... | ||
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mr_tolkien
France8631 Posts
You'll know in 1 year if I broke through :p | ||
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AngryFarmer
United States560 Posts
On July 26 2012 15:22 Sufficiency wrote: That's because Janna has two damaging spells and they both have really good ratio (0.7 and 0.8). However, her Q's base damage is really low unless you get a full charge (like if that will hit anyone). The real catch is to have 40% CDR. Janna's shield has 10 seconds cooldown (6 seconds after full CDR), lasts 5 seconds, and has 0.8 ap ratio. It's impossible to kill the Kog'Maw with this kind of shield spamming unless the other team fully commits; in this case Janna can use her ultimate... Haha yeah. Her AP ratios are ridiculous which is why I was suggesting it to the guy who was asking for a char that can support and AP carry. AP Janna is pretty fun even without the KogMaw though. As long as the other team has a lot of melee/short ranged champs Janna is super powerful. Edit: Also since she can just Q and leave, she's really easy to gank with. You're lane is always pushed and you don't even have to wait | ||
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IMoperator
4476 Posts
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AngryFarmer
United States560 Posts
On July 26 2012 15:34 IMoperator wrote: Wtf are you supposed to do vs. blitz in lane? He is my most hated champ right now, I can't do anything vs. him and any combo. He zones you out so hard by sitting in the bushes and you either get no farm, or he pulls you and you die. It's so fucking annoying, whenever I see a blitz it just makes me afk now because I know laning is going to be a bitch. Please tell me there's something I can do? Stand behind your creeps and have a decent support. I'm assuming you're talking about bot lane. (Janna kind of crushes him as a support) | ||
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Navern
26 Posts
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On July 26 2012 15:34 IMoperator wrote: Wtf are you supposed to do vs. blitz in lane? He is my most hated champ right now, I can't do anything vs. him and any combo. He zones you out so hard by sitting in the bushes and you either get no farm, or he pulls you and you die. It's so fucking annoying, whenever I see a blitz it just makes me afk now because I know laning is going to be a bitch. Please tell me there's something I can do? Blitzcrank is a hit-or-miss sort of support. A good grab gives a free kill, misses a grab and you get zoned for the next 10-20 seconds. Since his passive is tied to his current mana, every time he uses his grab and miss, he essentially loses 55 health. Since Blitzcrank forces trades in melee range and has no other defense steroids, the longer the stand off he weaker he is. Also know that Blitzcrank is probably one of the hardest counters to Soraka; but he is pretty weak against Janna and Lulu. Also Blitzcrank is rendered almost completely useless against Sivir. | ||
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
On July 26 2012 15:36 AngryFarmer wrote: Stand behind your creeps and have a decent support. I'm assuming you're talking about bot lane. (Janna kind of crushes him as a support) Pick Alistar, then when he pulls you into him pulv and spam YOU CANT MILK THOSE | ||
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IMoperator
4476 Posts
On July 26 2012 15:36 AngryFarmer wrote: Stand behind your creeps and have a decent support. I'm assuming you're talking about bot lane. (Janna kind of crushes him as a support) Yeah I'm talking about bot. Even when I stand behind minions their ad carry will just keep harassing me, I'm really lost. | ||
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Jumbled
1543 Posts
On July 26 2012 15:36 AngryFarmer wrote: Stand behind your creeps and have a decent support. I'm assuming you're talking about bot lane. (Janna kind of crushes him as a support) I'd be interested to hear how people feel the support should ideally play in a vs blitz lane. I had a couple of games as an AD carry against a blitz/... combo that were rather rough simply because my support didn't seem to have any idea what to do in response. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On July 26 2012 15:50 IMoperator wrote: Yeah I'm talking about bot. Even when I stand behind minions their ad carry will just keep harassing me, I'm really lost. Which AD did you play and which support did you get? | ||
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PH
United States6173 Posts
Since it's a team game, you usually get all kinds of flaming and frustration, regardless of whether it's your fault, someone else's fault, or it's just a shitty game in general. You're also stuck in games for 20-40 minutes at a time, normally, so you lose a LOT of time on a loss, the latter half of which is usually spent arguing with a troll who refuses to surrender. I've been losing like 3/4 of my games for the past two days now...seriously about to pull my hair out. | ||
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Simberto
Germany11725 Posts
A bc lane is 100% dependent on grabs. If he gets good grabs, he usually wins lane. If he does not, he loses it. And just by passively standing behind your creeps, it is pretty much impossible for bc to grab you. And remember that any time he misses a grab, you got about 10 seconds free to do whatever you like, since he has cd on his grab and cant do anything. Use those to harass one of them down. | ||
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IMoperator
4476 Posts
On July 26 2012 15:53 Sufficiency wrote: Which AD did you play and which support did you get? I main Ezreal and I had Leona/Ali support. | ||
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
On July 26 2012 15:57 PH wrote: How do you guys deal with loss streaks? In BW or SC2, it was always 1v1, so I just kind of got over it, but LoL is a bit different... Since it's a team game, you usually get all kinds of flaming and frustration, regardless of whether it's your fault, someone else's fault, or it's just a shitty game in general. You're also stuck in games for 20-40 minutes at a time, normally, so you lose a LOT of time on a loss, the latter half of which is usually spent arguing with a troll who refuses to surrender. I've been losing like 3/4 of my games for the past two days now...seriously about to pull my hair out. take a break and hope you win when you get back. people say shit like "YOU CAN CARRY YOUR TEAMS ALWAYS" but most of the time that doesnt work | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On July 26 2012 15:58 IMoperator wrote: I main Ezreal and I had Leona/Ali support. So I think Alistar/Leona support should always be in front of you. You pretty much automatically win the trade if your support gets grabbed instead of you. | ||
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IMoperator
4476 Posts
On July 26 2012 16:04 Sufficiency wrote: So I think Alistar/Leona support should always be in front of you. You pretty much automatically win the trade if your support gets grabbed instead of you. well if they get grabbed do I focus their ad carry? because my support will basically be dead nigh instantly, and that just leaves me against two. | ||
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JackDino
Gabon6219 Posts
On July 26 2012 16:16 IMoperator wrote: well if they get grabbed do I focus their ad carry? because my support will basically be dead nigh instantly, and that just leaves me against two. If your leona/alis support dies to a blitz grab they need better runes/masteries. If they grab your support you sit on their ad, unless their AD is in a bad position for you then you just slap the blitz. Don't go tank a minionwave just to attack the enemy ad or whatever. | ||
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IMoperator
4476 Posts
On July 26 2012 16:18 JackDino wrote: If your leona/alis support dies to a blitz grab they need better runes/masteries. If they grab your support you sit on their ad, unless their AD is in a bad position for you then you just slap the blitz. Don't go tank a minionwave just to attack the enemy ad or whatever. But if I attack the blitz their ad carry will just free focus me right? | ||
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