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Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
July 25 2012 05:38 GMT
#1321
On July 25 2012 14:12 WirelessWaffle wrote:
http://www.solomid.net/livestream.php?s=2723

Chaox - Shen
Regi - Ez
Xpecial - Ahri
Dyrus - Blitz
Oddone - Mumu

Anyone else watching this? IPL game


I think they've done this role switch before, but I don't know how it worked out. I only know Xpecial's Ahri is beastly.
Bronze player stuck in platinum
Lorken
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand804 Posts
July 25 2012 05:55 GMT
#1322
Any idea where I can get a high resolution Vizer Malhazar wallpaper? I saw it yesterday and it looked so nice.
LOUD NOISES!!!
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
July 25 2012 05:56 GMT
#1323
On July 25 2012 14:11 Awnnlol wrote:
Hello friends. I was wondering if there is a way to view my old LoL replay files? They won't load because they're >year old. Thank you for reading :-)

I'd like to know this too.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
Lorken
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand804 Posts
July 25 2012 06:07 GMT
#1324
On July 25 2012 14:56 HazMat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2012 14:11 Awnnlol wrote:
Hello friends. I was wondering if there is a way to view my old LoL replay files? They won't load because they're >year old. Thank you for reading :-)

I'd like to know this too.

I think they had a converter a while ago to watch old replays, but I can't seem to find it right now. They might have integrated it into the program though. Or I could be confusing it with something else
LOUD NOISES!!!
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5713 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-25 06:47:31
July 25 2012 06:46 GMT
#1325
Just played a game with a 4man premade. I wouldn't let their friend toplane. They went triple top lane, no one bottom lane. Followed me around all game, stole CS, harassed me nonstop in chat and threatened constantly to report me, no doubts they all did.

Granted I should've let the guy who insta locked top have his lane this is what makes me stop playing LoL for extended periods of time, these types of people and riot seemingly does not a thing about it for all the talk they do about getting rid of toxic people.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
July 25 2012 06:49 GMT
#1326
On July 25 2012 15:46 Zooper31 wrote:
Just played a game with a 4man premade. I wouldn't let their friend toplane. They went triple top lane, no one bottom lane. Followed me around all game, stole CS, harassed me nonstop in chat and threatened constantly to report me, no doubts they all did.

Granted I should've let the guy who insta locked top have his lane this is what makes me stop playing LoL for extended periods of time, these types of people and riot seemingly does not a thing about it for all the talk they do about getting rid of toxic people.

Did he lock and claim before you did? If so, stop QQing. We also have a QQ thread for this stuff.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Bwaaaa
Profile Joined September 2011
Australia969 Posts
July 25 2012 07:04 GMT
#1327
So funny seeing a manamune ez wreck saint and jacky on stream.
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
July 25 2012 07:05 GMT
#1328
On July 25 2012 16:04 Bwaaaa wrote:
So funny seeing a manamune ez wreck saint and jacky on stream.

Jrt is really good. Like really really good. I'm not too surprised is owning with a shit build
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Xenocide_Knight
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Korea (South)2625 Posts
July 25 2012 07:15 GMT
#1329
On July 25 2012 15:46 Zooper31 wrote:
Just played a game with a 4man premade. I wouldn't let their friend toplane. They went triple top lane, no one bottom lane. Followed me around all game, stole CS, harassed me nonstop in chat and threatened constantly to report me, no doubts they all did.

Granted I should've let the guy who insta locked top have his lane this is what makes me stop playing LoL for extended periods of time, these types of people and riot seemingly does not a thing about it for all the talk they do about getting rid of toxic people.

I mean, if he called/locked before you did, then you're the kind of person that makes me stop playing LoL. Sure he could always play a different role and play top next game but that wastes like an hour of his time purely because you wanted what he already had. Like what if you walked into a store to buy a watermelon but you saw this guy take the last one as you walked in. Would you steal it from his cart as he went to the bathroom?

"Yo, that was my watermelon, I had it in my cart. Give that back"
"Bro, it just takes like an hour to go to the nearest store for another watermelon"
"Yea, but I had it in my cart. You can't just take that shit."
"Dude, why are you following me around bothering me about this. Grow up. It's just a fruit."

Later
On July 25 2012 15:46 Zooper31 wrote:
Just went to the store and there was a 4man group of friends there. I wouldn't let their friend buy the last watermelon. They went to my checkout lane, no one in the nearby empty lane. Followed me around all morning, stole free samples from me, harassed me nonstop and threatened constantly to report me to the police, no doubts they all did.

Granted I should've let the guy who had the watermelon in his cart have his fruit. This is what makes me stop going to the store to buy watermelon for extended periods of time, these types of people and police seemingly does not a thing about it for all the talk they do about getting rid of toxic people.
Shine[Kal] #1 fan
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
July 25 2012 07:20 GMT
#1330
On July 25 2012 16:15 Xenocide_Knight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2012 15:46 Zooper31 wrote:
Just played a game with a 4man premade. I wouldn't let their friend toplane. They went triple top lane, no one bottom lane. Followed me around all game, stole CS, harassed me nonstop in chat and threatened constantly to report me, no doubts they all did.

Granted I should've let the guy who insta locked top have his lane this is what makes me stop playing LoL for extended periods of time, these types of people and riot seemingly does not a thing about it for all the talk they do about getting rid of toxic people.

I mean, if he called/locked before you did, then you're the kind of person that makes me stop playing LoL. Sure he could always play a different role and play top next game but that wastes like an hour of his time purely because you wanted what he already had. Like what if you walked into a store to buy a watermelon but you saw this guy take the last one as you walked in. Would you steal it from his cart as he went to the bathroom?

"Yo, that was my watermelon, I had it in my cart. Give that back"
"Bro, it just takes like an hour to go to the nearest store for another watermelon"
"Yea, but I had it in my cart. You can't just take that shit."
"Dude, why are you following me around bothering me about this. Grow up. It's just a fruit."

Later
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2012 15:46 Zooper31 wrote:
Just went to the store and there was a 4man group of friends there. I wouldn't let their friend buy the last watermelon. They went to my checkout lane, no one in the nearby empty lane. Followed me around all morning, stole free samples from me, harassed me nonstop and threatened constantly to report me to the police, no doubts they all did.

Granted I should've let the guy who had the watermelon in his cart have his fruit. This is what makes me stop going to the store to buy watermelon for extended periods of time, these types of people and police seemingly does not a thing about it for all the talk they do about getting rid of toxic people.


well played...
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Celestial
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States652 Posts
July 25 2012 07:23 GMT
#1331
On July 25 2012 16:15 Xenocide_Knight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2012 15:46 Zooper31 wrote:
Just played a game with a 4man premade. I wouldn't let their friend toplane. They went triple top lane, no one bottom lane. Followed me around all game, stole CS, harassed me nonstop in chat and threatened constantly to report me, no doubts they all did.

Granted I should've let the guy who insta locked top have his lane this is what makes me stop playing LoL for extended periods of time, these types of people and riot seemingly does not a thing about it for all the talk they do about getting rid of toxic people.

I mean, if he called/locked before you did, then you're the kind of person that makes me stop playing LoL. Sure he could always play a different role and play top next game but that wastes like an hour of his time purely because you wanted what he already had. Like what if you walked into a store to buy a watermelon but you saw this guy take the last one as you walked in. Would you steal it from his cart as he went to the bathroom?

"Yo, that was my watermelon, I had it in my cart. Give that back"
"Bro, it just takes like an hour to go to the nearest store for another watermelon"
"Yea, but I had it in my cart. You can't just take that shit."
"Dude, why are you following me around bothering me about this. Grow up. It's just a fruit."

Later
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2012 15:46 Zooper31 wrote:
Just went to the store and there was a 4man group of friends there. I wouldn't let their friend buy the last watermelon. They went to my checkout lane, no one in the nearby empty lane. Followed me around all morning, stole free samples from me, harassed me nonstop and threatened constantly to report me to the police, no doubts they all did.

Granted I should've let the guy who had the watermelon in his cart have his fruit. This is what makes me stop going to the store to buy watermelon for extended periods of time, these types of people and police seemingly does not a thing about it for all the talk they do about getting rid of toxic people.


This post sums up champion release days, pretty nicely infact.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
July 25 2012 08:21 GMT
#1332
I don't think anyone understands what I'm saying..... Baron in a "stand off" is just an "area". the objective in itself though useful, is just used as leverage to start something.

The point is that this is the wrong idea. The correct way of thinking about it is, "If I can kill the enemy team, it'll be easier to secure baron buff", not the "If i can get baron buff without dying to enemy team, I can kill enemy team".

The actual objective should be forcing a teamfight, and winning it, not just posturing around baron.
liftlift > tsm
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
July 25 2012 08:24 GMT
#1333
hence why people say lets force baron
I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
July 25 2012 08:32 GMT
#1334
On July 25 2012 12:46 Vaporized wrote:

do you guys think pushing and roaming is the best way to play mid? i usually just stay and farm and only follow the other guy if he roams. i tend to get a cs lead not roaming. there comes a point, especially if the other guy doesnt get kills, where i can just body him out of lane. but increasingly i am seeing my mid opponent roam.


Roaming is an option, but punishing their midlane/jungler is also viable if you think you can pull it off. Stealing their wraiths or threatening dives/kills on the midlane and forcing their jungler to pay more attention to you can lead to good counterganks for your team or just alleviate jungle pressure on your top/bot lanes.

As you mention, some champs obviously do one or the other better. The key is to just be active. Whether you're threatening their mid, counter-jungling, or roaming; as long as you're not sitting passively while opportunity is afoot then there's no wrong answer.
" i havent been playin sc2 but i woke up w/ a boner and i really had to pee... and my crisis management and micro was really something to behold. it inspired me to play some games today" -Liquid'Tyler
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
July 25 2012 09:01 GMT
#1335
Oh yo guys did you miss me
I'm back, super cool, back with my super-OP comp too so I might even stream at 1080p with 30 fps, we'll see yo

So it seems that zyra got released, is she going to be a top AP carry? (Karthus/Aniv/Ahri level?)
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-25 09:39:07
July 25 2012 09:24 GMT
#1336
I don't know why there is so much hatred on Tear of the Goddess and its upgrades (both AD and AP). I think if you can afford an item slot and the sacrifice of survivability, it's a good item on champions who spam spells (no, not just on Ryze/Anivia). I often build Tear on Cass when I am doing well, for example; I think it's fantastic for Cass.


On July 25 2012 17:32 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2012 12:46 Vaporized wrote:

do you guys think pushing and roaming is the best way to play mid? i usually just stay and farm and only follow the other guy if he roams. i tend to get a cs lead not roaming. there comes a point, especially if the other guy doesnt get kills, where i can just body him out of lane. but increasingly i am seeing my mid opponent roam.


Roaming is an option, but punishing their midlane/jungler is also viable if you think you can pull it off. Stealing their wraiths or threatening dives/kills on the midlane and forcing their jungler to pay more attention to you can lead to good counterganks for your team or just alleviate jungle pressure on your top/bot lanes.

As you mention, some champs obviously do one or the other better. The key is to just be active. Whether you're threatening their mid, counter-jungling, or roaming; as long as you're not sitting passively while opportunity is afoot then there's no wrong answer.



It really depends on who you are playing. IMO, if you are playing (say) Cassiopeia, Galio, Anivia, Morgana, or Karthus, don't roam beside perhaps helping your jungler counterjungling. First of all I think these champions, while do possess some forms of CC, are really poor gankers; thus roaming and ganking does not always yield the best results. Also they farm really well and have strong presence in a team fight throughout all stages of the game, so they might as well just farm as much as possible.

On the other hand, if you are playing (say) Ahri, LeBlanc, Kassadin, Katarina, or Akali, I think you should roam as much as you can afford because they are fantastic gankers.
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Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21245 Posts
July 25 2012 09:27 GMT
#1337
It's completely overkill on Cass because you already never run OOM with two rings + your passive...
TranslatorBaa!
Hakanfrog
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden690 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-25 09:37:40
July 25 2012 09:37 GMT
#1338
Anyone else played Zyra yet? I ´ve just played like 3 games in normals but I think she is really strong. Pushes waves easily, nice harrass if you hit your snare. She clears wraiths really fast without effort and her early teamfight pressence is godlike, never really got to lategame with her but her ratios are pretty good.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
July 25 2012 09:55 GMT
#1339
man azingy owning with jungle gragas is the funniest shit ever
Bladeorade
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1898 Posts
July 25 2012 09:58 GMT
#1340
The only person you said not to roam with that I agree with is. Karthus but he has a global ultimate
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