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TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-11 06:27:53
July 11 2012 06:27 GMT
#1041
Batman sucks, totally non-viable especially in competitive play. Would much rather play Flash. That guy's OP.
Remember Violet.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-11 06:29:39
July 11 2012 06:28 GMT
#1042
On July 11 2012 15:22 Feartheguru wrote:
After being stuck in the 1000-1200 range for my first hundred games and believing I belonged there I shot up to gold in 40 games after cracking 1200. I think that range is more terror than most people tend to think? Maybe I just get a lot of lucky teams.

Honestly? for me 0-1400 was super easy (never actually been at 0 elo, but I did dodge down to ~1100 for kicks). 1400-1520 wasn't too bad. breaking 1600 took fucking forever and was a pain the goddam ass. After that I swung between 1600~1700 for about a couple weeks or so then I stopped playing a little over a month ago due to being out of the country. I peaked at like 1731 so I can't speak for past that.

On July 11 2012 15:27 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Batman sucks, totally non-viable especially in competitive play. Would much rather play Flash. That guy's OP.

-Insert relevant Unimpressed Flash meme here-
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
July 11 2012 06:32 GMT
#1043
On July 11 2012 15:27 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Batman sucks, totally non-viable especially in competitive play. Would much rather play Flash. That guy's OP.


Dude, are you kidding me? Superman is broken as balls, just need to use a ban on Kryptonite. Has flash's mobility but does way more damage and is way tankier.

As far as I am concerned Flash isn't even viable.
Nikon
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bulgaria5710 Posts
July 11 2012 06:50 GMT
#1044
So do you guys think that Zyra would be good in the jungle?
anmolsinghmzn2009
Profile Joined June 2011
India1783 Posts
July 11 2012 07:04 GMT
#1045
On July 11 2012 15:50 Nikon wrote:
So do you guys think that Zyra would be good in the jungle?


Yea but she gets hardcountered by rumble in the jungle so I dunno.
Dunk first. Ask questions while dunking.
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
July 11 2012 07:10 GMT
#1046
Being able to outwit anyone and to represent the common man at his best isn't that great, but being able to spam qwer is. Real LoL conmunity.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
July 11 2012 07:11 GMT
#1047
On July 11 2012 15:50 Nikon wrote:
So do you guys think that Zyra would be good in the jungle?

a tangent:

once I was playing jungle mao. there was a teamfight in enemy jungle near their blue buff. I was the only one left alive and 3 of the enemy was still up; 2 with very little health. With pro skillz I managed to juke and subsequently snipe/kill the two low health enemies and get away alive. Teammate then said in /all some snarky comment about the other team not being able to find a tree in the jungle. never laughed so hard in my life.

i'm bad at telling stories.
Bwaaaa
Profile Joined September 2011
Australia969 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-11 07:21:03
July 11 2012 07:19 GMT
#1048
On July 11 2012 14:19 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2012 14:17 iCanada wrote:
Apparently Zyra has 2 hard CC's and a Slow. Thats Nautilus type CC man, scary.

Need actual numbers

Maybe she's an actually decent pet champion. One can hope I guess.

I hope they use the system for controling viktor's ult for her pets so you can we have a champ that has some sebelance of multitasking.

Edit: If she has pets*
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
July 11 2012 07:23 GMT
#1049
On July 11 2012 16:19 Bwaaaa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2012 14:19 Shikyo wrote:
On July 11 2012 14:17 iCanada wrote:
Apparently Zyra has 2 hard CC's and a Slow. Thats Nautilus type CC man, scary.

Need actual numbers

Maybe she's an actually decent pet champion. One can hope I guess.

I hope they use the system for controling viktor's ult for her pets so you can we have a champ that has some sebelance of multitasking.

Edit: If she has pets*

Recent patch made it so that you can control all pets that way.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Zaphod Beeblebrox
Profile Joined December 2010
Denmark697 Posts
July 11 2012 07:27 GMT
#1050
On July 11 2012 16:11 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2012 15:50 Nikon wrote:
So do you guys think that Zyra would be good in the jungle?

a tangent:

once I was playing jungle mao. there was a teamfight in enemy jungle near their blue buff. I was the only one left alive and 3 of the enemy was still up; 2 with very little health. With pro skillz I managed to juke and subsequently snipe/kill the two low health enemies and get away alive. Teammate then said in /all some snarky comment about the other team not being able to find a tree in the jungle. never laughed so hard in my life.

i'm bad at telling stories.


Don't feel bad - I laughed.

On another node. Zyra looks abselutely awesome, but before everyone screams Poison Ivy, remember that there are other Plant-human characters out there, and Ivy is hardly the first. Ivy is just the most famous (others are; Seraleena from MIB2, elves in a few universes are part plants too, quite a few monsters from Doctor Who are plants too).
Go try StarBow on the Arcade. TL thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=440661
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-11 08:13:25
July 11 2012 08:13 GMT
#1051
Still waiting for a plant character called "Deadly Nightshade" .-.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-11 08:35:57
July 11 2012 08:35 GMT
#1052
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
July 11 2012 09:49 GMT
#1053
Just for those that aren't aware yet, Morello revealed on the Forums that Zyra will be using similar mechanics as Sadie from Wakfu. Sadie in Wakfu deploys a seed which doesn't do much bt then each ability you use gets the seed to do something as a result.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-11 10:49:48
July 11 2012 09:50 GMT
#1054
So I read Jayce's new lore... and I absolutely dislike it either. The writing is poorer, and the way it is + the content makes te change look like an appeal to calm Viktor fanboys. "He effortlessly blasted Jayce aside and seized the crystal, incinerating the lab's meager security force as he left for Zaun.", really?
"Though their clash left both scientists heavily wounded, Jayce managed a desperate strike at the crystal." => "Hey, they complained that Viktor looked like a pussy, let's just write that it was a hard-fought battle, almost a stalemate but with a lucky strike instead".

Well at least they removed the mention of Viktor of all people stealing the work of others.

Edit @Chiharu: he also said that it was the base concept that appealed to him, but that other than that it isn't similar iirc. From the sneak peak I now believe that one of her spells plants a seed (been pretty much confirmed anyway) and the others animate it with pets that are controllable for a limited duration.
From the seed mechanic and the idea of "combos", and since Morello mentioned a chess-like gameplay (more complex than Anivia, less than Orianna), I'd say having utility on most spells is necessary, so that she can play around it for the combos, zoning and "chess-like" positioning, threatening opponents as they have to account for which spell she could be using in this or that seed.
If it's anything like said, I'd love her kit to be calibrated so she doesn't have an obvious spell to max first. Changing the way she can work, and enticing her opponents to determine what she is maxing to react accordingly would be great.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-11 09:55:48
July 11 2012 09:51 GMT
#1055
ugggggggh. instantly less excited. i wanted a summon champ. or a least a pusher. so dumb riot tries to prevent that option.
ChaoSbringer
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Australia1382 Posts
July 11 2012 10:12 GMT
#1056
On July 11 2012 18:49 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
Just for those that aren't aware yet, Morello revealed on the Forums that Zyra will be using similar mechanics as Sadie from Wakfu. Sadie in Wakfu deploys a seed which doesn't do much bt then each ability you use gets the seed to do something as a result.

You know, thats really really funny. Hearing about the 'Plant Mage' + her thorn theme made me think of the Sadida class in the game Dofus, which is the precursor game to Wakfu.

Sadida's were pretty strong, their spammable bread and butter nuke skill was 'Bramble' where thorns would shoot out of the ground and smack whatever you were fighting.
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-11 10:24:40
July 11 2012 10:23 GMT
#1057
Off Zyra(instabuy btw), it took a while, but I finally figured out the optimal opening for most melee's in proving grounds. HoG+boots+pots->aegis rush. Enjoy free wins because your whole team lives 10%+ longer, and you live like 30% longer. Pretty much the only successful opening I've found because it's pretty hard to do anything meaningful 5v5 until you get much tankier as a melee.

Did get one game though where it was 8 bruisers and vlad/apkog. Was fun, fights lasted so long that people had time to respawn and rejoin the fight because almost everybody was building insanely tanky, without too much damage.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-11 10:29:30
July 11 2012 10:25 GMT
#1058
On July 11 2012 19:23 Amui wrote:
Off Zyra(instabuy btw), it took a while, but I finally figured out the optimal opening for most melee's in proving grounds. HoG+boots+pots->aegis rush. Enjoy free wins because your whole team lives 10%+ longer, and you live like 30% longer. Pretty much the only successful opening I've found because it's pretty hard to do anything meaningful 5v5 until you get much tankier as a melee.

Did get one game though where it was 8 bruisers and vlad/apkog. Was fun, fights lasted so long that people had time to respawn and rejoin the fight because almost everybody was building insanely tanky, without too much damage.

HoG is like the shittiest item in the entire planet to rush in aram.

Hey you earn like 90 gold per 10 so lets make that 95 gold per 10 ~

Rather go either health + null/cloth or kindlegem
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
July 11 2012 10:34 GMT
#1059
Hm, what would be a good 8 heroes to pick from for a push strat.

sivir carry, karma/janna support, ziggs/talon mid, jayce/rumble top, ??? jungle?

anyone else in any role?
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
July 11 2012 10:49 GMT
#1060
Udyr jungle pushes well, Shyvana too, Mundo gets a bit slower.
Graves pushes a lot better than any other AD carry except maybe Corki, if you push with abilities Soraka could be worth more than Janna. A mid like Anivia or Viktor is a much more potent pusher than Talon.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
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